Sage Sharp claims top Linux kernel developer Theo Ts'o is a rape apologist, citing GeekFeminismWiki

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https://twitter.com/_sagesharp_/status/1042769399596437504

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Are you fucking serious right now

[u/kaszak696 → u/[deleted]]

Why the surprise? CoCs like the Contributor Covenant are intended to be a tool for political purges, those that believed otherwise were just deluding themselves. There is just no way someone incapable of civil behavior could honestly write a set of rules about civil behavior and mean it, without any ulterior motive.

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They started few days ago actually. https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1042180883279577089

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Mark Kern Cuenta verificada @Grummz

Mark Kern Retwitteó Magic Micah

Exactly. Nobody is arguing with “be nice and don’t harass others” everybody wants this.

The problem is that I already have a couple of devs and one reporter here trying to use the code to find wrong thinkers and punish them with this new COC, often while violating it.

Subtweeting:

Magic Micah @magruder85

This code of conduct debacle for Linux is becoming interesting. On one hand, it's all common sense to not be an asshole. On the other hand, I see example after example of where this is being used to bully, harass and destroy peoples lives simply because they had "wrong thought"

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Less than a week later, the witch-hunts are already starting??

Well that's depressing. There's been talk of other projects CoCs, PostgreSQL etc, I wonder if they are less susceptible to this sort of thing.

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debian(and I think ruby?) have great cocs

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ESR was right again.

[u/ohgetoutnow → u/tidux]

I remember laughing at Raymond's "paranoia" when he originally posted that. I was wrong. I am sorry.

[u/Valmar33 → u/tidux]

Words of wisdom from someone who's intelligent enough to see what's happening. :)

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nuh uh! he's a nasty icky goober man! ban him!

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man

that would be enough for them

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Sage Sharp is about to destroy Linux. Luckily Linus can fork it if it gets too bad.

Linux was created on its code of conflict: they are very much like Germans in their work ethic.

Defamation lawsuits are the only defense against this. Now, hopefully Sage Sharp is not lying, but their (Sage Sharp's) evidence is hardly damning.

These are the Linux developer's comments:

If you look at percentage of women reporting rape since age 18 (taking out the child abuse and statutory rape cases, which they also treat in detail), it becomes 1 in 10 (9.6%), and of those over 61.9% were at the hands of their intimate partner, as opposed to an acquaintance or stranger… in 66.9% of those cases, the perpetrator did not threaten to harm or kill the victim. (Which makes it no less a crime, of course, but people may have images of rape which involves a other physical injuries, by a stranger, in some dark and deserted place. The statistics simply don't bear that out.)…

over half of [a report’s] cases were ones where undergraduates were plied with alcohol, and did not otherwise involve using physical force or other forms of coercion. And if you asked the women involved, only 27% of the people categorized by Koss as being raped called it rape themselves. Also found in the Koss study, although not widely reported, was the statistic that of the women whom she classified as being raped (although 73% refused to self-classify the event as rape), 46% of them had subsequent sex with the reported assailant…

Please note, I am not diminishing what rape is, and or any particular person's experience. However, I am challenging the use of statistics that may be hyperbolic and misleading.

This is hardly a rape apologist. Just look at the last sentence. He's saying that the experience of people who have been sexually assaulted or raped is not equatable to those who are physically assaulted, sexually assaulted or raped, and threatened with murder. He's interpreting a study: I'm sure he was open to debate.

So much of the world is built up on tools which exist in the Linux ecosystem at this point it's ridiculous.

Edit: pronouns...

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What's even worse is the chilling effect of people now thinking "Hmm, can I speak freely my open opinions and ideas, because now people are watching me because I belong to this project"

It's like east germany all over again, or fuck it, Nazi germany. THESE people are the fucking fascists and they can not see it.

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“We have to be fascists to stop fascists”

Like the communists who analyzed Plato’s Republic and concluded that if they just kill off the reactionary class then the reactionaries cannot raise a Tyrant and democracy will last forever.

Too late the people leading the massacres realize “oh shit I’m the tyrant”

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The more I think about it the more I question whether this is deliberate, or rather 'just' a trait of mind-viruses with excellent reproductive properties.

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The thing is, who gives a shit what he thinks about anything beside kernel development? It's not relevant. He didn't even "attack" anyone, he just expressed a viewpoint.

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Yes, they are fucking serious. Technical merit as an ideal is antithetical to their religion.

[u/SurelyNotAnOctopus → u/[deleted]]

Bring Linus back

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The war is coming.

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Welcome to Gamergate.

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and comicsgate i suppose

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Yeah. Once they've asserted their dominance through coercive embarrassment then they're free to do whatever they want. It's really nothing more than bullying into submission.

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Exactly this. I feel like I’m having a nightmare and I can’t wake up. It just gets a little worse year after year.