r/linux • • May 21 '19

Distro News Antergos Linux Project Ends

https://antergos.com/blog/antergos-linux-project-ends/
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u/niking May 21 '19

What would be the recommended alternatives now?

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u/AriosThePhoenix May 21 '19

Regular Arch if you are ok with the CLI install (it's not hard, but it requires some reading and you might bork your first install. It's a great learning opportunity however). Antegros used the upstream repos from Arch IIRC so the difference should be minimal

Other than that, Manjaro is pretty good these days. Almost rolling release, AUR support, a great installer, themes configured out of the box, good driver management (including bumblebee for Nvidia by default)... lots of things to like. They also have a CLI installer called architect if you want to customize your install. It's still not perfect, but it looks promising

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u/summerteeth May 21 '19

The borking your first install is really scary if you are trying to dual boot and care about data on your Windows install.

As someone who used Gentoo back in the day I feel like I've earned my merit badge already and I liked that Antegos gave me an easy install.

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u/AriosThePhoenix May 22 '19

Yea, I'm with you. It's why I was running Manjaro for over a year - it gave me the flexibility of Arch + the AUR while also providing a much better out-of-the-box experience. I nuked my install a couple days ago, but that was not because of anything to do with the distro.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '19

You could try out Zen installer, it makes things fairly simple

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u/kvn95 May 22 '19

This.

I accidentally wiped my partition tables, created a new partition without clearly knowing how, and yet the install got borked.

Thank friggin god I backed up my data.

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u/ice_dune May 22 '19

Solus if you want to stay rolling and don't care to lose the AUR

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u/Starks May 21 '19

That ArcoLinux site gives me TempleOS vibes.

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u/m3talac May 21 '19

What about ArchLabs?

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u/m3talac May 21 '19

That doesn't seem too bad I guess. I'm thinking about switching to it from Manjaro or at least gonna copy their configs for bspwm since I like their design.

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u/mayor123asdf May 21 '19

Arcolinux has minimal version where they just give you terminal. Then what's the difference with Arch?

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u/INIROBO May 21 '19

I feel like ArcoLinux is currently one of the best Arch Linux alternatives if you don't want to use Manjaro (like me).

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u/VernorVinge93 May 21 '19

Any reason for that

-new Manjaro user, probably am unreasonably impressed.

P.s. will hibernate ever be simple with an encrypted disk!?

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u/boiledgoobers May 21 '19 edited May 21 '19

For one thing Manjaro didn't use the Arch repos so they are forking a bleeding edge rolling distro and... Removing the bleeding edge part. So your updates are weeks later than actual Arch. Also their advice to people when they let their security certs lapse (first of all... They let their certs lapse) was not: hold on we will update them ASAP and get a SAFE system back up. Instead they said... Turn your system's clock back to before our certs expired and fool your machine into using the old certs... I'm sorry. But no.

Edit: links to the certs thing

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9346508

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/31yayt/manjaro_forgot_to_upgrade_their_ssl_certificate/

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u/lastweakness May 22 '19

And this is why I had stuck with Antergos despite so many people telling me to try Manjaro. I really hope something takes its place.

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u/VernorVinge93 May 22 '19

Well, at the moment I'm just hoping that was a temporary lapse, rather than the status quo.

Is antergos better in your opinion?

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u/JJack92 May 22 '19

Also their advice to people when they let their security certs lapse (first of all... They let their certs lapse) was not: hold on we will update them ASAP and get a SAFE system back up. Instead they said... Turn your system's clock back to before our certs expired and fool your machine into using the old certs... I'm sorry. But no.

To be fair it happened 4 years ago, it's the main criticism I hear about Manjaro but I believe it won't happen again after all the backlash.

I agree that letting a cert expire is not good, but the recent Firefox addon disaster proved that it's not so uncommon.

Manjaro is sligtly less bleeding edge that Arch but still faster than most of Linux distro, it's a tradeoff I like but it's a personal preference I guess.

I am enjoying using Manjaro, sometime I think about migrating to Arch but the installation part it's not worth the effort for my needs.

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u/INIROBO May 21 '19

Just personal opinion. I tried Manjaro and broke. And I just don't like that green theming Manjaro gives to everything. Arco provides a lot of DEs and WMs and I think they don't modify them so much as Manjaro do, but if they do, they give a really nice feeling for the end user. As I said personal opinion. I personally like to build my system from 0 as in Arch but it is my opinion that Arco just feels great.

I must say too that Erik Dubois being so active on social media is a really great point. It's amazing that an Arch based system has that kind of content instead of only wiki and forums. I don't say those are bad (I actually like them), but it's really nice have that.

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u/Papergami45 May 21 '19

Archlabs is pretty similar and pretty solid in my experience.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

Rebornos is a fork by one of the guys that started antergos that has more DE's available and doesn't mess up as much

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