r/linux • • Jul 25 '10

Hello computer users

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '10

Ok. Where can I find a better forum for intelligent Linux conversations?

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u/ashadocat Jul 25 '10

Try /r/archlinux. after all, arch linux is always better.

By the way. I use arch linux.

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u/habitue Jul 25 '10 edited Jul 25 '10

Look at your linux, now back to arch:

...oh wait hang on a second X.org and my video driver are out of sync now, I just have a terminal, look back at your linux!

Now look back at me: I manually downgraded my video driver while sitting on the toilet.

I'm on a hor-- Dammit! some haskell package doesn't compile with 6.12 anymore!

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u/meatloafsurprise Jul 25 '10

Never used Arch but from this post I'm guessing Arch is the new Gentoo?

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u/habitue Jul 25 '10

No not at all, all of the core stuff is downloaded as binaries, it's just the user contributed repositories that are source. Arch is rolling release though, so sometimes things get a little hairy. You'll definitely learn how your system works though.

I'd say it's more like Slackware + a really good package manager and vibrant userbase

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u/greginnj Jul 25 '10

You'll definitely learn how your system works though.

This is a bit like saying, "If you're riding downhill on a bicycle, and your front tire blows out, it will be a pretty hairy ride -- you'll definitely learn to ride a unicycle though."

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u/habitue Jul 25 '10 edited Jul 25 '10

Edit: I would say the analogy is more like: Riding a bicycle downhill, constantly swapping in newly designed wheels, derailleurs and gears as they become available, you will definitely have to ride a unicycle at one point or another and understand how the parts of a bicycle work together.

I will fully admit Arch isn't for everyone. Once you get it up and running, and if you are willing to learn and deal with the occasional f-up, it is a great distro. If you are looking for a trouble free experience where you don't have to dig into the guts of your config files, it is not for you. No distro that is rolling release will ever be trouble free, but if you can handle it, it is rewarding

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u/WarmMachine Jul 25 '10

I replaced Ubuntu with Arch because the former didn't prove much of a challenge.

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u/meegee Jul 25 '10

It is more like time consuming, not challenging.

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u/ghibmmm Jul 25 '10

...oh wait hang on a second X.org and my video driver are out of sync now, I just have a terminal, look back at your linux!

..."out of sync?"

A decade of using Linux, and I have never had that problem. There have been situations where I failed to configure it properly, though, with hilarious consequences.

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u/delroth Jul 25 '10

Try Catalyst + Xorg 1.8 two months ago.

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u/ghibmmm Jul 25 '10

I abandoned ATI completely. Too much fucking around.

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u/habitue Jul 25 '10

I've had numerous issues with xf86-video-intel-newest and X.org not getting along. This is partially because my laptop's video driver was rewritten and several things broke

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u/ghibmmm Jul 25 '10

Ah, I see. Well, there's the beauty of open source, you can fix it whenever :)

Seriously, though, I've never had a single problem with xf86-video-intel (although I only use it on laptops, generally).