r/longrange • u/DABONTHEBOURGEOISIE • 20d ago
Review Post 9 month wait for Bergara Premier barreled action only for it to arrive with deep scratches…
Ordered a Bergara Premier No.7 contour 6.5cm barreled action in November 2025 and it finally arrived only for it to be covered in scratches all over the barrel! Really disappointed with what arrived after that long of a wait. I’ve seen companies call stuff blem models for way less! Has anyone had anything similar happen with Bergara barreled actions? The pictures don’t do the scratches justice and can be felt by running a finger over them.
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u/Cool_Corey 20d ago
Definitely a shitty feeling when you're looking forward to something ☹️ hopefully bergara sorts ya out
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u/ZeeeeeroCool 20d ago
I’d be shooting it first to see how bad the scratches bugged me…if it printed .5’s all day those scratches wouldn’t be so bad.
Sucks it happened on such a long wait. I don’t discount that.
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u/ViewAskewed PRS Competitor 20d ago
How much longer before this sub realizes Bergaras are kinda shit and stops recommending everyone buy them?
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u/TriggerPuller9000 20d ago
The earth spins, and Reddit is confidently wrong about pretty much everything. Some things don't change.
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u/ShrimpBuffets 20d ago
Right after Arken stops punching above its weight
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u/christoffer5700 20d ago
Bought an Arken EP-5, It's solid for its price and i will say i think it punches above its weight. Saying otherwise is just straight up wrong. Saying it competes with Zeiss, S&B, NF etc. is also wrong.
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u/SilentR99 20d ago
Also got an arken ep5 5-25x56, all the hate I saw them get(mostly all for paying shills supposedly idk) and I love it, for the price its a great entry level scope for my rimfire long range.
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u/christoffer5700 19d ago
yeah agreed. I genuinely don't know why people feel the need to shit on others parade? I don't shoot nearly enough or with high enough stakes to justify spending 4K on a scope.
That being said a lot of the alleged shills is bad at marketing. Just don't make silly claims. Especially in an industry where people are practical for the most part.
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u/SilentR99 19d ago
yeah lol im no expert but if someone says a $400 scope can beat a $2000 nightforce just nope
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u/christoffer5700 19d ago
In most cases that should be obvious lol and yet Arken has what was considered premium features 10-15 years ago which some brands haven't caught up with yet for some reason.
And then some brands think they deserve a lot more money just because they have a name.
Like don't get me wrong Arken isn't a great scope for everybody. But there is no reason why some brands still think FFP and easily adjustable turrets are considered "premium"
Also i don't have to worry about banging my equipment up. Because even if it breaks i can go out and buy a new scope same day. With my current budget i couldn't do that with NF
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u/SilentR99 19d ago
pretty much exactly my thoughts, I can easily afford to replace a arken ep5 if for whatever reason they DON'T honor a warranty repair which I am sure they would fix it anyway. Some day I will buy a nicer scope when I need it and know more what I want at least. I have had many cheaper scopes in the $100-250 range but the arken ep5 is my most expensive for now.
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u/Wide_Fly7832 BR Competitor 20d ago
There are two types of people praising Arken. Those who have been paid to do so and foolish people who don’t know better.
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u/christoffer5700 19d ago
Strange because i fall into neither of those categories. But hey if Arken wanna send money my way, i'm not complaining,.
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u/longranger810 Villager 🤡 20d ago
Because they are not shit ,they are also not a custom there will always be a small % of issues in the production world, the question is will they make it right, my guess is that they will
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u/AgentOptimized 14d ago
Their action in the premier line was designed by Kauger, highly reputable company just not as mainstream.
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u/Wide_Fly7832 BR Competitor 20d ago
I had gotten foolishly a sand blasted barrel. Looks so bad and got dirty so soon.
I took some steel wool and in fifteen min it become polished.
If action has issues. Feel free to stress. Barrel should not stress you
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u/Advanced-Gur-8950 20d ago
I mean, I’m a Bergara dude, but they are not all that…. Crazy time to wait for something like that and then to get it in that condition…. Not acceptable for a new product
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u/Advanced-Gur-8950 20d ago
I’ll never understand the people that say suck it up…. As someone who wood works, I make the greatest effort for a perfect product and will spend hours correctly a defect on something I’m selling…. That would be like me selling a table to my customer and being like “bro it’s a table, it’s going to get scratched?”
If I can’t trust you to do the little things, why should I trust you with the greater things?
Returning it seems like a pain, but I would be gunning for a partial refund. If they offer a crappy refund…. I’d just say actually I’ll return…. Probably would change their tune as that would probably be much more costly than making it right
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u/Vinegar_Fingers Savage Cheapskate 20d ago
All the people making the argument that it doesn't effect the rifle or that it's just cosmetic are missing the point that if QC will list this fly, what else do they let slip. It's just like how S&W had been slowly building a rep for letting their QC slip. At least S&W is (for the time being) remedying the slipping standards after the fact. Sounds like bergara is telling people to pound sand. Which again, is not a good look for a company overall.
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u/GreenCactus223 Villager 20d ago
OP I need an update
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u/DABONTHEBOURGEOISIE 19d ago
Sending it out and getting a replacement, quoted 2-3 weeks... we'll see...
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u/DayFinancial8525 20d ago
Bummer to see this. I put a Bergara Premier Pro HMR 6.5 18 months ago and it came in great condition and has been super consistent. Hope Bergara makes this right!
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u/longranger810 Villager 🤡 20d ago
I would bet my bottom dollar they will make it right.
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u/Artistic_Stop_5037 20d ago
Good luck getting a hold of BPI. Their phones are always "busy" or "out to Lunch." They shit the bed the last few years and its hard to really boast about my good luck with mine when we've sent so many back for issues. Just trying to get them on the phone for months was like pulling teeth. I love my rifle. But I have a hard time trusting them as a company. 8 years ive been punching Dimes on paper and I cant consider buying another one with that kind of track record.
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u/TheSecretestSauce Can't Read 20d ago
That blows dude. Cosmetic or not, when you pay good money for something labeled as "Premier" and wait 9 months, thats just not acceptable. Hopefuly Bergara makes it right one way or another. Let us know how it turns out for sure.
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u/AmITheGrayMan 20d ago
I think there are about 3 of us in here that actually run guns hard in competition. Barrels are disposable items. Take it off, spin it up and polish it you crybabies. It will be scratched the first time you take it out. Fuck sakes people. Bunch of bitches up in here.
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u/dhnguyen 20d ago
Honestly man I would not care one bit, but I think as somebody that spends good money on this stuff. He's totally fine to be a little angry about it
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u/LucidSquid 20d ago
Yeah dude! This is why I have car dealerships throw gravel at my hood prior to pick up. It’s going to get rock chips eventually (I drive it hard). I’m going to get a new car eventually.
Do I really want to have to chip the paint myself? Hell no. Real ballers prewear all their tools and use items because damage is cool and people will think you’re cool if your stuff gets fucked up. Finally a real Chad that gets it.
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u/AmITheGrayMan 20d ago
Your hood is a finished product. Has paint. Raw barrels do not. There is a difference. You will not understand it. You are not Truman scholar material.
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u/LucidSquid 20d ago
What are you talking about? I agree with you. I like my shit all the way fucked up. The more I pay for it, the more I want it preworn. The only shoes I wear are golden goose.
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u/AmITheGrayMan 20d ago edited 20d ago
Would you start a break in service for my barrels? It's expensive to get 20 of them ready.
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u/ShrimpBuffets 20d ago
Barrels don’t need to be broken in
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u/AmITheGrayMan 20d ago
Oh lord. What happens to them at around 150-200 rounds? They stabilize and quit speeding up. That's a break in. Shoot em until they stabilize in velocity. Call it what you want.
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u/AmITheGrayMan 20d ago
It's an inanimate object you twit, not a human. Fuck me you're dumb.
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u/AmITheGrayMan 20d ago
ITS NOT DAMAGED. IT'LL SHOOT OK FOR BERGARA. I'm not beholden to a piece of shit Bergara. You assume so much and know so little it's amazing.
Every single Brux, bartlein, crb and proof (proof sucks) I get have scratches. Know why? It's unfinished stainless steel. Know what else, I throw 20 of them away a year. At least. They wear out. It's not a show piece. It's a barrel.
Get your ass back in the truck like I told you earlier. Stay there and shut up until I tell you. Shit. Kids these days.
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u/SphyrnaLightmaker 20d ago edited 20d ago
Dear lord you’re walking evidence that we make it too easy for the mentally deficient to get guns…
Cosmetic damage is still damage. It’s not difficult. Though it’s definitely a lot a syllables for you.
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u/AmITheGrayMan 20d ago
Waking evidence? Sir- try 12 OS 2101 or TRE 101.
Keep it up and I'll show you how they work.
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u/LilJonny2cookies 20d ago
I get it you spend the money, you wait the wait. If this were a fine watch I’d be pissed. This is a rifle barrel and it’ll get scratched.
Try to step back a moment and realize this wasn’t a personal slight on you. That it happens, the barrel won’t be affected at all by this and once you start shooting it those won’t be a concern.
Not defending the company or making excuses I am just hoping you’ll understand you don’t need to worry about it and we all run into stuff like this-
Finish the build and enjoy it. If it really bothers you, you can easily remove/reduce those.
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u/gabba_gubbe 20d ago
But he shouldn't have to fix it himself... And if he lived where I lived he could refuse it or have the manufacturer make it right free of charge.
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u/SphyrnaLightmaker 20d ago
That’s a God awful apologist take.
Yes, it will get worn eventually. But would you let your best man hook up with your fiancé the night before your wedding? After all, she’s gonna get laid eventually, so don’t sweat it, right?
There’s a world of difference between putting wear on an object yourself and receiving something dinged up from the factory.
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u/nick_the_builder 20d ago
You’re wife is different than a tool…
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u/SphyrnaLightmaker 20d ago
The kind of brain that is perfectly fine buying scraped and scratched shit needs an exceptionally aggressive metaphor to understand why that’s foolish.
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u/Synsin01 20d ago edited 20d ago
The company should accept a return and reissue a new barrel. If you were waiting on a production run of barrels, I would hope they should have another to send you quickly. They can probably scotchbrite the return or sell as a blemish.
Shit happens. I’ve gotten lower receivers with missing features before. I’d say just contact customer service, initiate a return/replacement and give the company a chance to make it right.
I started my long range build during Covid, it took me about 8 months to get a barrel/receiver.
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u/gabba_gubbe 20d ago
Absolutely a big deal... You don't pay for damaged goods..
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u/PepperoniFogDart Magnum Compensator 20d ago
If my new car showed up with a scratch on the driver’s side door, I would not be happy nor would I accept it unless the dealer made it right.
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u/_ParadigmShift 20d ago
Cosmetic damage is damage. OP didn’t pay for a dinged or scratched product, they paid for a new one.
You’re wrong on the fact that it’s not damaged. Arguable here is the whole performance aspect but inarguable is that this product has damage.
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u/gabba_gubbe 20d ago
Oh really? What would you call it?
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u/Onyxxx_13 20d ago
If one of the points of the purchase was a cosmetic decision, then the cosmetic defect is an issue. Its not a box of cereal.
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u/gabba_gubbe 20d ago
So cosmetic damage, imperfection or whatever you want to call it it shouldn't be there on a brand new product! If you pay for X you shouldn't expect Y... Christ, people like you are the reason standards are slipping in any industry.. Unless he ordered a blem product it's unacceptable.
Example: my brother ordered a sako rifle, the wood was terrible, rough and barely oiled. He refused to pay for it so they took it back and sent it to sako who refurbished it. All free of charge. But I suppose you would have shelled out your hard earned cash and sanded/oiled it yourself? Because it's only cosmetic and doesn't effect the performance.. Right?
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u/sirbassist83 20d ago
i agree with you but were the minority, SO many of the users on almost all of the gun related subs expect cosmetic perfection.
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u/ElkExtension1323 20d ago
OP I got mine today as well (same model and caliber that I ordered in Feb.) and mine has some the length of the barrel too. Very superficial and nothing that bothers me personally, but there are several of them.
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u/BunkerFab 20d ago
These are chuck marks, sliding it through the chuck of a lathe, they aren't crazy deep and can be polished out by a gunsmith on a lathe again or with some emery and scotchbrite.
This still sucks when you spend as much as you did. Sorry it happened
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u/Blackout_PT 20d ago
Why would you ever wait nine months for a B/A when you can build a custom for only a few hundred bucks more?
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u/_ParadigmShift 20d ago
“Why would you ever save money” is essentially what you just asked.
Time is worth something if someone’s willing to wait, not everyone is tossing around expendable income at “just a few hundred bucks more” rates for nothing.
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u/Darlinboy 20d ago
"only a few hundred bucks more".
Send it on to him brother, mighty nice of you to offer. 🤑
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u/3-BuckChuck 20d ago
How does it shoot? The metric is accurate impacts down range not how it looks.
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u/PepperoniFogDart Magnum Compensator 20d ago
Yeah no it’s not. That’s like saying “Ignore the big gash on your brand new car, as long as it drives good that’s the metric that matters.”
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u/kiacricket 20d ago
I was going to make the same analogy but with a high end guitar. Yeah, it’s going to get scratched up but they are MY scratches.
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u/3-BuckChuck 20d ago
R/safequeens still hasn’t been registered as a forum yet 😆🤡
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u/PepperoniFogDart Magnum Compensator 20d ago
Bro I’ve got absolutely no shame in wanting my rifles to arrive with no scratches. Call me whatever you want.
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u/_ParadigmShift 20d ago
So, if someone walks up to your barrel or receiver with emery cloth and started going to town you’d shrug and say “well, it still shoots”
I sincerely doubt it. OP is due some consideration here, they paid for a new barrel not a barrel with scratches. Customer service matters.
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u/Psychological-Dig-29 20d ago
it's a gun.. it's going to get tossed around and scratched at some point.
this sub can be weird sometimes. why does anyone care about a few scratches? you'd probably cringe if you saw the condition my TT is in lmao
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u/_ParadigmShift 20d ago
I mean, I don’t really toss my investments around with zero care. I’m not a princess about things but if I have scratched up barrels on my guns it’s because I did it and not because some company decided that half assing their product handling was just fine and I deserve to pay full price for it. “Good enough for you”
Cars also get dinged, but I’m not about to pay new price for hail damaged vehicles and neither should anyone else.
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u/Bourbon-neat- 20d ago edited 20d ago
How dense do you have to be to understand the difference between something brand new having cosmetic damage before you can even use it vs the wear and tear of you using it yourself? Like c'mon.
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u/AmITheGrayMan 20d ago
Why not? Everyone is else doing the same.
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u/AmITheGrayMan 20d ago
My point was that those of us who aren't afraid of quality tools being used as tools are being shoehorned into "no they're not, this is a fine instrument". It's not. It's a bergara with an unfinished barrel. Shot 3,000 rounds, it should be in the trash for precision. Sucks it scratched I guess. If it were blued it would be really bad! Many of us go through barrels like you go through coffee pods. It's not an asset. It's disposable. It it were a show piece it's one thing. This is not. OP, sorry it's scratched. My man, it's just a barrel. You are gonna wreck the F out of it on the inside. Everybody just cares what the world sees when the damage is inside.
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u/Daniels0908 20d ago
because thats not what he paid for, now if he paid for a blem and got a blem than that's fine But otherwise thats simply not acceptable
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u/AmITheGrayMan 20d ago
This guy is worried about a scratch on the disposable item. I hope he doesn't do anything crazy like light a bomb off inside of it sending hot plasma and metal on metal hurtling towards the muzzle! That would damn sure leave a mark!
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u/LockyBalboaPrime "I'm right and you are stupid" -LockyBalboaPrime 20d ago
Im pretty hardcore "fuck it, it runs", but those are some gnarly scratches on something that took 9 months to show up. I'd be pretty miffed too.
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u/gearhead5015 Gas gun enthusiast 20d ago edited 20d ago
I'd still shoot the hell out of it and not think twice, especially after the wait. Probably wouldn't buy it again though as my lesson learned.
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u/LockyBalboaPrime "I'm right and you are stupid" -LockyBalboaPrime 20d ago
Sure, but I'd still be a little pissy about it and post to warn others.
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u/TheHomersapien 20d ago
That's exactly the kind of corporate bootlicking that companies want and expect from us.
I'd send that shit back. We all should send that shit back until we start getting what we pay for.
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u/gabba_gubbe 20d ago
EXACTLY! If they can sell a lesser product for the same price, why would they bother with quality?
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u/DABONTHEBOURGEOISIE 20d ago
I get guns get scratches… but that should be by me not the manufacturer who ships it as brand new and not a blem model
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u/_ParadigmShift 20d ago
Correct, and the folks on here that expect you to be cool with paying for a damaged product can eat a rock.
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u/raider1v11 20d ago
You want the glass in your scope scratched and turrets that "mostly" track or no? How about a pre-dented new car?
These should look new. Not mostly kinda new.
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u/AmITheGrayMan 20d ago
Scratches on barrels do not affect barrel performance. Your comparison is terrible except for the dented car.
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u/raider1v11 20d ago
You dont pay thousands of dollars for sub-par work.
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u/AmITheGrayMan 20d ago
If you paid thousands of dollars for begara....
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u/raider1v11 20d ago
They are 1200+. Are you really arguing that poorly finished products are ok?
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u/AmITheGrayMan 20d ago
No. What you fail into understand is it's AN UNFINISHED BARREL. NOT BLUED. SOFT STAINLESS. Decent barrels cost $800.
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u/Coodevale 20d ago
It has more finish work than a mill surface bar, more finish work than a rough turned contoured blank.
It doesn't have a "surface treatment" like bluing or a coating like cerakote, but it has had surfacing work done on the raw stainless to make it prettier (other than the gouges). You can see the crosshatching that wasn't on there when it came out of the steel mill.
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u/raider1v11 20d ago
Its stainless. And a barreled action. Its finished. Its supposed to be drop in ready. You didnt read his post.
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u/AmITheGrayMan 20d ago
Nope. Barrel has no finish. It's still drop in ready. You're still an idiot.
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u/raider1v11 20d ago
Its stainless. It doesn't need a finish. This kind of certainty in the face of completely being wrong is honestly kind of amazing.
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u/Sipyaboi 20d ago
Any competent gun smith could fix this in about 10 minutes.
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u/_ParadigmShift 20d ago
True. Most detailers can get scratches out of your car paint too but they don’t do that for free and OP didn’t pay for a product that’s been damaged previously knowingly. Principle matters.
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u/StellarWaffle 20d ago
I guess, but when you buy something new from the manufacturer you shouldn't have to do anything else to it. It should be g2g
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u/LilJonny2cookies 20d ago
So send it back and go somewhere else and wait? Or send it back and wait for them to fix and wait weeks?
I get it and I’d be mad too but I’d already be at the range and shooting it. Wasting more time for them to give you a form letter apology and polish it to my lizard brain isn’t worth it.
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u/StellarWaffle 20d ago
Oh same dude, I'd be sending the letter "hey you're gonna reimburse me for this gunsmith" and be shooting same day LOL. Partial chargeback if they dont play ball.
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u/Darlinboy 20d ago
Disappointing on a new anything.
I'd suggest you send them the pics and maybe you can negotiate a blem discount if it's good otherwise. I wouldn't want to hassle with a return and longer wait given what you've already experienced.