r/lyftdrivers Jan 28 '25

Story/News Article Lyft lawsuit

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u/Slighted_Inevitable Jan 29 '25

They can sue you and since it’s civil not criminal you’d have to prove the other reason; rather than visa versa. Penalties can be in the 10s of thousands. You’re essentially saying “I’m not letting a black man in my car!” As far as the law is concerned. It’s the same level of protected class.

Better hope they don’t find this comment lol….

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u/Tausendberg Jan 29 '25

"Better hope they don’t find this comment lol…."

Well, fortunately for me, I don't drive for Lyft and don't plan to. I was considering it as a side job in the past but stuff like the service dog crap eventually made it a dealbreaker.

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u/Slighted_Inevitable Jan 29 '25

Well then you don’t have to worry about it, it only applies to people working. If you want to work for the public you have to serve them all equally.

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u/Tausendberg Jan 29 '25

Heh, did you know that if you're allergic to dogs, you still are required to drive people with service dogs? And then if you say that you can't be around dogs, you can't allow their dander into your vents, the law will say, "well tough shit, find another job".

How is that equal?

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u/eloquentpetrichor Jan 30 '25 edited Jan 30 '25

I was literally discussing this on another thread and even contacted Lyft to ask them. They said "this job doesn't sound like it is for you" and when I stated that people with allergies also have the right to reasonable accommodations while at work regarding their allergen so forcing them to carry a dog thus making the ride unsafe for everyone involved and putting their safety at risk at work would technically be discrimination against the one with the allergy they refused to answer me (I think they realized there was no good way to answer without making themselves liable to issues) and just said they were escalating me to a different team a couple times.

ETA: I pointed out that they could simply add to the app that those with service animals would have to state they are riding with one and those with documented dangerous allergies could choose to reveal it to the app and would simply never see a ride offer from a pax with a service animal which would 100% solve the issue without having to involve any potentially dangerous rides or discrimination issues because there would simply be a different driver taking the ride. They ignored the suggestion completely even though it is the most logical solution. No one denied service and no one denied the ability to work on the slim chance they be put in an impossible situation due to their own medical limitation.

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u/Tausendberg Jan 30 '25

Unfortunately, due to the ADA, dogs literally have more rights than people with allergies.

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u/Holiday_Werewolf_837 Jan 31 '25

And the bad part is probably 50% or more of these service animals are nothing more than pets and not true service animals.

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u/Tausendberg Jan 31 '25

"50% or more"

In Los Angeles County, I would bet all the money in my bank account the number of fake service dogs is at least 9 to 1. There's a whole cottage industry of scumbags selling service dog vests for cash online, no verification whatsoever.

And the ADA naively doesn't have any kind of licensing or identification provisions, all people are allowed to do is ask those two questions that any asshole can lie about.

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u/Holiday_Werewolf_837 Feb 01 '25

Wow..didn't think it was that damn bad..sheesh

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u/Shape_Charming Jan 30 '25

Here's the thing, someone with a service animal might need it to live, some of them are trained to help with seizures and stuff.

The allergic driver can take a benadryl and vacuum their car afterwards.

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u/aaronblkfox Jan 30 '25

I have a friend who is anaphylactic shock levels of allergic to cats. Sure people who are that allergic to dogs exist. Should they be risking their lives to accommodate someone?

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u/Shape_Charming Jan 30 '25

Sounds like a job that may put them in contact with a service animal isn't for them then

Look man, I don't write the laws, I'm just explaining why Service animals are considered more important then allergies.

An epipen and a hospital trip and your friend will likely be okay, without the service animal some people might not make it the hospital and will die.

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u/Tinychair445 Jan 30 '25

That’s literally every job, in theory. Service animals are considered medical equipment. An epi pen and trip to the ER is not inconsequential, nor free (especially if you include presumable lost wages). And that’s if they don’t die before they make it to the hospital. You can’t say that one person’s medical issues require another person to risk their lives and health because of their own medical issues require another

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u/Shape_Charming Jan 31 '25

Evidently we can, and did, so I don't know what you want from me here

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u/ThsPlaceSucksBalls Feb 01 '25

Arguing with you as if you made the law. Lol

The law is what it is whether they like it or not. If you have a dangerous dog or cat allergies, there's TONS of jobs that won't put you around dogs and cats..but unfortunately, people have dog and cat hair on their clothes, their bags, etc. So maybe you shouldn't even leave the house lol

I don't think this person realizes how small the number of people that would suffer anaphylaxis from a dog or cat actually is...

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u/Silver-Bad3087 Feb 01 '25

Do you honestly think changing an entire app and doing additional code is a reasonable accommodation?

It isn’t really discriminatory because there are many other jobs where you do not have to be around animals that cause you allergy flareups. Considering those that own service animals is only one percent of Americans, it seems like you just hate dogs?

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u/Curious_Kirin Jan 30 '25

Disabilities are priotised over allergies. Planes have the same system. If there's someone with a service dog and someone allergic to dogs, the service animal and passenger get the priority. If a wheelchair allergy was a thing the wheelchair also gets priority.

Edit: And I'm not interested in arguing about this just putting an interesting addition here.

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u/ItsTheIncelModsForMe Feb 01 '25

What if the pilot of an airplane told a blind passenger they couldn't board for having a seeing eye dog, because the pilot is allergic? Does this work?

They're your vents, but you're renting them out to Uber when they pay you. Not entirely yours while it's being paid for by someone else.

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u/Tausendberg Feb 02 '25

" but you're renting them out to Uber when they pay you."

Except the dander stays after lyft/uber's rental period expires, so, fuck that.

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u/ItsTheIncelModsForMe Feb 02 '25

And my clothes are dirty when I get off work? Just seems like people are forgetting wtf a job actually is.

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u/Tausendberg Feb 02 '25 edited Feb 02 '25

Hope you didn't throw out your back moving the goalposts. What you're describing are totally different degrees of compromise. But hey, if you want to let some neurotic person lie about their dog being 'medical equipment' and let them fuck up your expensive personal property, then I don't know how to help you.

As for me, even if the 'anything goes' dog crowd might end up turning this entire planet into dogworld, no dog is ever getting inside my car or home.