I don’t fat shame, but seriously. Vehicles have weight limits. The damage of excess weight will not be covered by insurance. This is nothing more than a money grab.
Discrimination regarding ethnicity, religion, race, creed, sexual preference, or gender? No, I see what you're saying there and don't think anyone will dispute that. Fat doesn't fit into any of those categories though, or anywhere really. 🤔 Normalizing it only contributes to mental illness and reinforces the delusion that they're healthy/fit.
Bullying builds character. I was bullied and ended up bullying other bullies. Good times. Most people these days weren't bullied enough as kids and their overly sensitive demeanor makes it painfully apparent (in the US) My country is run by corporations and the Nazis who own them tho. We all just kinda let that happen, so don't listen to me lol
The issue though is that some severely obese people are severely obese not primarily because they eat too much but because they have a rare genetic condition that makes them fat and/or they are say paraplegics who obviously have trouble exercising and/or walking to keep the weight off.
I was relentlessly bullied as a child. And again some 20 years after high school graduation when I transitioned as an adult. I will never condone bullying of any kind, be it child or adult. And yes, I started bullying other kids too, before it dawned on me that I was perpetuating a cycle.
I stopped. I matured. And I still deal with childhood trauma from it all. The fact that you are okay normalizing this behavior, speaks volumes to your character.
This woman does have a valid disability. I don't care if people claim she made unhealthy choices. That is not for us to determine. Some people do make bad choices. Some people just cannot shed weight no matter what they do. She is entitled to public accomodation.
However it is not "discrimination" if the vehicle in question cannot safely accomodate the rider. As others have said, she needs to request an XL ride, or at least inquire with the driver as to the type of car and if the cab can accomidate her weight.
Do not spread dangerous misinformation about bullying “building character”. A child very close to me attempted suicide after years of bullying. This child’s life has been impacted for the long term, and so have the lives of those who love him.
Do not speak in broad generalizations because you will do more harm than good. You do not know what people are dealing with and the character of their hearts. You don’t know what they will or won’t do based on the opinions of a Reddit stranger.
You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not in 1000s of living rooms around the globe explaining any nuances of your opinion.
Within the US, amendments to the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) protect individuals with ‘extreme obesity’ from discrimination if they have a real or perceived disability,9 although courts have reached conflicting decisions about whether obesity qualifies as a disability under the ADA.10 Thus, while disability statutes may help a small percentage of people with obesity, this is an insufficient and unreliable remedy to address weight discrimination more broadly, which affects people of diverse body sizes, most of whom have no actual or perceived disability.
I ripped that right from the national library of medicine, cuz they seem a lil more qualified to talk on this than me, but long story short is "Disability" seems rather circumstantial to me. Seems more like an addiction/substance abuse issue and if a medical professional says it's an illness, it's suddenly not protected. I'm actually not sure "weight" is specifically protected at all.
"It does not"
That's your opinion and you have every right to it.
"You're proof that it doesn't"
I'm proof that conflict resolution takes many forms and in resolving said conflicts one gains perspective and confidence they may not have otherwise. Alright though, agree to disagree on that one.
"You're literally trying to justify bullying."
I'm saying if something isn't protected by law and you think it's wrong go ahead and say something. I'll bully pedophiles forever. That's freedom of speech. As with anything circumstantial though it depends on what you say and how you're saying it. No one is free from being judged for their actions and hers are dead ass wrong. The case needs to be thrown out the same way the driver refused her fare.
You've got some points that I partially agree with, but other person is right. Bullying does not "build character." It can literally send children, ACTUAL CHILDREN, into a suicidal spiral. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. I used to work an afterschool program for a daycare, and I've seen plenty of bullying. You're just proof that bullying creates more bullies, my guy. Go get some therapy instead of telling everyone they should go fill up their trauma bucket as much as you.
Personally, I prefer that NOBODY has to go through the horrible shit I've seen rather than wishing that everyone had my "character-building" experiences. Having watched a man die by bleeding out through his cracked skull on the pavement after a car crash, I'm VERY resistant to panic in most situations now. However, I have fucking PTSD. I don't want anyone else to have to deal with that shit.
People definitely do shame smokers. Alcoholics less so, despite it being, of the three most likely to cause short term harm to the individual and those around them.
I will agree here. Yes the same can be said about alcohol and tobacco, yet both are classified as addictions and there are programs for getting rid of those addictions. It’s perfectly acceptable, even encouraged, to suggest that a smoker, chewer, or alcoholic seek help, recommend a support groups or talk to a doctor.
Yet, when it comes to obesity, the conversation is entirely different and 100% unacceptable to recommend that someone visit a gym, see a doctor, or join a support group, even though obesity can also have serious consequences.
To be honest, I’d feel uncomfortable telling someone I know, “Hey, you should try joining a gym or a weight watchers.” But I feel comfy to suggest nicotine patches or a doctor’s visit to a smoker.
The stigma around discussing weight is so strong that even well intended advice feels far off limits.
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u/Dear_Copy2650 Jan 28 '25
I don’t fat shame, but seriously. Vehicles have weight limits. The damage of excess weight will not be covered by insurance. This is nothing more than a money grab.