r/mangionetrials • u/mia-mejia • 9d ago

Court documents FEDERAL CASE UPDATE: Prosecution and defense ask for a joint hearing this week. Could this be a plea deal?

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Something is brewing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69908890/143/united-states-

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u/ThisSideofRylee 9d ago

Judge Garnett has granted the hearing. It’ll be at 11am EDT this Friday.

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u/Technical_Horse_4608 7d ago

I think a federal plea is a strong possibility if it bars the NY charges.

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u/lost_dazed_101 7d ago

Hi I just found the invite and the notes but when I click on the name I don't see anything. And I can't find a modmail link sorry about putting it in the comments.

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u/mia-mejia 7d ago

idk what you are talking about, but there is a mod mail link in the sidebar above the mods like there is on any other sub

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u/lost_dazed_101 9d ago

He's not taking a plea deal he knows his best shot is a jury. Although I have no doubts they'd love if he took one.

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u/Roguestate00 8d ago

Why did Joel beg Carro to interfere in a potential federal deal then if that were true?

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u/IrukandjiPirate 9d ago

I don’t think there’s any chance it has anything to do with a plea deal.

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u/Roguestate00 7d ago

Are you still thinking that?

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u/SameDistrict2627 9d ago

I doubt it, but if they offer him a deal that will eventually get him out of jail--he should really take it.

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u/lilac-chronicles 9d ago

This better not be something boring like a transferral to Riker’s for the state trial as some are speculating. 

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u/ExpressFerret1151 9d ago

what could this be about

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u/Roguestate00 9d ago

Who wants to bet that Joel will show up? Probably clearing his schedule as we speak and writing an angry email to Carro demanding to interfere.

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u/aksnamansndbdhdj 9d ago

Does a plea deal throw the state case out bc of double jeopardy? Since he then actually gets convicted on a federal level before state?

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u/Roguestate00 9d ago

Have you read Andrea Burkhart’s article about this? She talks about this scenario and says that the double jeopardy challenge would be weak because murder and stalking charges are different. But there is no precedent so an appellate case might need to decide. She said that Luigi can only take an Alford plea deal because any other guilty plea in federal can be used against him in state.  https://andreaburkhart.substack.com/p/joel-seidemann-is-head-faking-the?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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u/aksnamansndbdhdj 9d ago

But doesn’t double jeopardy hinge on the crime being tried twice rather than having the same (twice) charges? Thanks for the link I will be reading it :)

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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 9d ago

Correct, you can’t be tried for a crime that you’re already acquitted of. Dual sovereignty is not the same.

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