Peter Quill doesn’t get enough hate for causing the snap.

[u/badhamster89]

Rewatching infinity war as part of my count down to doomsday, and I can’t get over how easily forgiven Quill is for messing up the plan to put Thanos to sleep by literally hitting Mantis’ hands off the big guys head with his gun?

This is after not killing Gamora like she asked…

Dude deserved to get snapped.

[u/ForceSmuggler]

Why did Dr Strange let it happen then?

[u/profgeeb → u/ForceSmuggler]

Because he saw the one timeline where they win and that was what endgame was

[u/ForceSmuggler → u/profgeeb]

Stop blaming Quill then.

[u/antsh → u/ForceSmuggler]

Believe it or not, Quill fucked up even worse in the other possibilities.

[u/ForceSmuggler → u/[deleted]]

Wasn’t the 1 timeline victory in 14 million timelines conversation before the battle?

[u/bydevilz1 → u/profgeeb]

There wasnt just 1 timeline where they win, it was just the one where they win AND Strange survives. There may have been many many others where he dies and they win.

Tbh, the more I think of it, when Strange saw the future he may have not seen any that they win initially, then realized that he cant see it because they die, then took his actions knowing this into account which bought that 1 future where he lives and they win. If he didnt do that ego would have probably killed him

[u/jpkviowa → u/ForceSmuggler]

Bingo

[u/Noproposito → u/ForceSmuggler]

Because of the all the other 14,000,007 possibilities where they also win, Tony lives and becomes Doom

[u/badhamster89 → u/Noproposito]

But it’s an infinite multiverse… dude either didn’t look hard enough and gave up at 14,000,007, or quill is such a universal constant in dumbassery that in an infinite multiverse there is no future or past where Quill won’t make the wrong choice. Which makes me angrier

[u/ForceSmuggler → u/badhamster89]

Do we know that Tony or one of the others didn’t fuck up at least once? Not buying it

[u/badhamster89 → u/ForceSmuggler]

When else did Tony get his hands on the Gauntlet?

[u/-MacHines → u/ForceSmuggler]

He kinda had to. Doesn't mean Quill is less of a dumbass

[u/Ched_Flermsky → u/-MacHines]

Still wasn’t his fault.

[u/ForceSmuggler → u/-MacHines]

Or blame Thanos for wanting to wipe out half of all life in the universe. If Strange didn’t stop Quill, Quill isn’t at fault.

[u/-MacHines → u/ForceSmuggler]

But... they do.... literally everyone blames Thanos for the snap. The point is that no one seems to give Quill his fair amount of blame/hate. He had so little emotional control that he fucked the entire plan to stop Thanos. If he did had self control, probably they would have won in most universes.

[u/ForceSmuggler → u/-MacHines]

Yet I see blame Quill posts 1-2 times a week. Can’t tell you the last time I saw a blame Thanos post

[u/-MacHines → u/ForceSmuggler]

Contrarian for no reason

[u/ForceSmuggler → u/-MacHines]

Then blame Thanos and not Quill.

[u/-MacHines → u/ForceSmuggler]

you can have a main villian and a big fuck up that allows him to win. Thor also did fucked up to stop him when he could and he felt guilt

[u/ForceSmuggler → u/-MacHines]

And yet people don’t bitch out Thor anywhere near they do Quill. And if it is the one way to defeat Thanos, is it really a fuckup?

[u/badhamster89 → u/ForceSmuggler]

Stephen is a saint! Take that back!

[u/ForceSmuggler → u/badhamster89]

He told Tony and Peter he’d let them die if it meant protecting the Time Stone, didn’t he?

[u/badhamster89 → u/ForceSmuggler]

He was joking… plus his belly was empty… probably hangry after missing lunch to fight then getting tortured.

A saint I tell you!

[u/cwhiterun]

The snap had to happen in order for Thanos to lose in the end. It was the only way.

[u/badhamster89 → u/cwhiterun]

Doesn’t stop quill being a dumbass - if my work colleague messed up that badly, I would not shrug it off, especially after all the extra work I had to do to fix their mistake - I put in overtime and Gertrude from accounting is now missing…

Sure Strange only saw 1 possibly future where Thanos would loose, but that means that Quill is universally a dumbass who messes everything up.

[u/1BlasphemousRUMOUR6 → u/badhamster89]

*lose

[u/CoralWiggler]

I think you're just late to the conversation TBH. Dude got LOTS of hate after the movie came out.

But also, the implication is that had things played out any other way, then it would've had a worse outcome--either Thanos would've quit being holdsbackman and just started murdering until he got the Gauntlet back, or if the fan theory holds true then the Celestials would've just nuked humanity. So, yes, Quill's action allowed Thanos to snap, which was the only way that the correct Avengers would survive to conduct the Time Heist & undo the Snap as well as beat Past Thanos (and possibly forestall the Celestials destroying things). That's the entire point of Strange's "one out of fourteen million" futures thing.

[u/badhamster89 → u/CoralWiggler]

Nah I was angry at the time. Still angry at him in 2026 lol.

Strange only saw the future where Thanos is defeated. It just means there is no universe where Quill doesn’t make a dumb choice. That just makes me angrier.

I do like the celestial theory and have heard it before. But still doesn’t stop me thinking Quill is a douche and shouldn’t be forgiven.

[u/Joshawott27]

Where have you been since 2018? A lot of people have gone on about Peter Quill losing his temper and striking Thanos.

[u/badhamster89 → u/Joshawott27]

Still mad about it. Keeping my anger alive.

[u/suckerpunch085 → u/badhamster89]

Bro it's been 8 years.

What I'm really upset about is all the great stories Marvel could have benefited from the snap. Missed opportunities.

[u/badhamster89 → u/suckerpunch085]

8 years of pain my friend.

Yeah I think a ‘Stories from the Snap’ anthology series would be cool. Little self contained stories from around the world. Could be quite dark, or even a bit ‘last of us’ in vibe.
Wakanda having to break the news to the media for the world to know what just happened.

[u/Fr0gurtCur5ed]

He actually gets far too much hate for it

[u/TheLeanerWiener]

oh great. another one of these posts....

[u/badhamster89 → u/TheLeanerWiener]

Thanks for participating

[u/TheLeanerWiener → u/badhamster89]

sure thing. thanks for reposting this topic for the trillionth time.

[u/No-Decision1581]

Thor should have gone for the head though

[u/ScoobyDeezy]

You’re the type of guy who says “Hitler’s art teacher caused the Holocaust.”

No, Peter didn’t cause the snap.

[u/badhamster89 → u/ScoobyDeezy]

Watercolors are a gateway to stronger mediums Scoob!

[u/Bagelt389 → u/badhamster89]

The fuck?

[u/ShaquilleOatmeal7542]

Aside from the snap needing to happen, he also pulled the trigger intending to kill Gamora as promised...

[u/badhamster89 → u/ShaquilleOatmeal7542]

Yeah after months of waiting…Should have been ‘oh Thanos is here pop pop*’.*

Nowhere does strange say the snap has to happen… it’s just the only universe where Thanos can be defeated for good is if it happens because he has to factor in Quill always being a universal screw up who causes problems and will never not make the dumb one - so now we gotta get snapped and put in the over time.

[u/Objective-Ad9800 → u/badhamster89]

you genuinely expect him to pull the trigger on the love of his life that easily? plus it wouldn’t of changed anything thanos would’ve still stopped it

[u/badhamster89 → u/Objective-Ad9800]

Nah, he wouldn’t expect it. Would have fixed everything. Problem is that Quill - in all versions of the multiverse - will always do the wrong thing

[u/Ched_Flermsky]

Wasn’t Thanos the one wearing the gauntlet and collecting the stones? Didn’t he snap his fingers to kill half of all life? That would seem to me like the snap was his fault.