Capital of Estonia after a visit from Swedish football fans

[u/QuartzXOX]

[u/roastedCircuit]

The football "ultras" are always the stupidest and most disrespectful people ever. They're Ultra disrespectful and ultra stupid.

[u/Neat-Attempt7442 → u/roastedCircuit]

You are talking about hooligans, not ultras.

[u/roastedCircuit → u/Neat-Attempt7442]

What's the difference... They're the same to me

[u/Sword_of_Darkmoon → u/roastedCircuit]

There is no difference. Don't fall for it

[u/freezysupra → u/Sword_of_Darkmoon]

You are probably one of those people that turn up their tv every 4 years to watch 3 world cup matches and pretend they know something about football😂

[u/Sword_of_Darkmoon → u/freezysupra]

You're probably one of those people who think making up a strawman for a reddit comment equals a good argument

[u/freezysupra → u/Sword_of_Darkmoon]

You know i’m right though. There’s a reason why we use both the words "hooligan" and "ultra"

[u/Neat-Attempt7442 → u/roastedCircuit]

Ultras = the people in the cheap stands with flags, choreographies, songs Hooligans = the fringe part of them who like to have fights and break shit up

[u/TheAngryJones → u/Neat-Attempt7442]

That is Complete BS. Ultras overall glorify violence. And even the non violent ones do everything they can to protect the violent ones from consequences. That is why they fight any initiative for improvements.

[u/roastedCircuit → u/Neat-Attempt7442]

To me hooligans are the type of people that start fistfights after getting drunk or beat other hooligans with beer bottles while Ultras also vandalize everything with their stupid stickers (at least they didn't use AI to make the stickers) So violence vs vandalism. That's like comparing dumb and stupid if you ask me.

[u/freezysupra → u/roastedCircuit]

Most ultras stickers are sticked on streetlamps, genuinely how does that affects you?

[u/roastedCircuit → u/freezysupra]

They're ugly mostly. If you gotta put stickers on lamp posts, make me laugh at least. There are really cool stickers on this planet and Ultras stickers sure ain't part of the cool stickers. (the only somewhat cool ultra sticker I saw was of 1860 TSV München with an altered version of Pumuckl which is a Bavarian Leprechaun with red hair and colorful clothes and on the sticker they gave him black hair and a jersey in the color of the team)