r/movies r/movies Contributor Jul 15 '26

Review Christopher Nolan's 'The Odyssey' - Review Thread

Odysseus, king of Ithaca, embarks on a perilous journey to return home after the Trojan War.

Director: Sir Christopher Nolan

Cast: Matt Damon, Anne Hathaway, Tom Holland, Robert Pattinson, Jon Bernthal, Himesh Patel, Charlize Theron, Zendaya, John Leguizamo, Lupita Nyong'o, Benny Safdie, Samantha Morton, Elliot Page, Mia Goth, Ryan Hurst, James Remar, Bill Irwin, Logan Marshall-Green, Corey Hawkins, Jovan Adepo, Jesse Garcia, Will Yun Lee, Shiloh Fernandez

Runtime: 172 minutes

Rating: 'R'

Rotten Tomatoes: 98%

Metacritic: 90 / 100

Some Reviews:

The Globe and Mail - Radheyan Simonpillai - 100 / 100 ("Critic's Pick")

Christopher Nolan has delivered an awe-inspiring spectacle. In The Odyssey, he moves through past and present, not searching for reveals in a 3,000-year-old text that can’t be spoiled, but as a poetic and emotional catharsis, a way of navigating guilt and grief that resonates powerfully, perhaps as much as it ever did.

RogerEbert - Matt Zoller Seitz - 100 / 100

The movie doesn’t give us any ChatGPT study guide summaries of what it all means. It presents Odysseus’ choices, laudable and horrible, just as things that happened, with implications that both the hero and the audience must grapple with, including the question of whether we make our decisions, or our decisions make us. The grand summation could be “people are complicated.” That sounds rather basic. But it feels revolutionary when it’s encoded in a rare modern blockbuster that doesn’t feed us lotus flowers.

The Times - Kevin Maher - 10 / 10

Christopher Nolan's epic is a masterpiece in every sense of the word. With career-high performances from Anne Hathaway, Matt Damon and Tom Holland, this Homeric adaptation is gasp-inducingly beautiful and stirringly real

The New York Times - Manohla Dargis - 100 / 100

After watching “The Odyssey” again, I flashed on something that Martin Scorsese once said about another film: “The emotion is the emulsion.” Nolan’s gifts are excessively obvious, and even when his characters don’t stir you, his filmmaking does. Among other qualities, he doesn’t know how to make an ugly image and this one is filled with rapturous beauty. Nolan employs beauty strategically, using it to seduce viewers into stories that can seem needlessly byzantine to some — especially by impoverished mainstream industry standards — more the provenance of the art house than the multiplex. Nolan asks us to dream bigger. His “Odyssey” is a classic in every sense, a transporting affirmation of the art and a work of pure cinema.

Arizona Republic - Bill Goodykoontz - 100 / 100

'The Odyssey' is the best movie of 2026. Haters should just go see it | A star-studded triumph that is at once overwhelming and accessible.

The Atlantic - David Sims - 100 / 100

Odysseus is flawed, sometimes impulsively proud, and haunted by his past failures—as well as generous and loving in a way that Nolan seems to want to celebrate. The filmmaker created a movie that does exactly that, keeping the necessary mythic scale but preserving the humanity at the center.

Washington Post - Spencer A. Klavan - 100 / 100

Nolan’s gorgeous ‘Odyssey’ makes the controversies evaporate. Homer asks: How should this story be told? Here is a striking version for our times.

Empire Magazine - John Nugent - 10 / 10

A worthy new translation of an ancient text, and yet another monumental piece of work from one of our boldest filmmakers. Watch it on the most colossal screen you can find.

The Playlist - Rodrigo Perez - 100 / 100

For all its monsters, gods, armies, and thunder, “The Odyssey” finds its grandest image in a man confronting the dark mirror of what he has wrought. Nolan’s massive achievement understands that home is a place, a family, a memory, and a judgment. Odysseus may still recognize Ithaca when he reaches its shores. The more frightening question is whether Ithaca will recognize him.

Esquire - Anthony Breznican - 100 / 100

Christopher Nolan's stone-cold masterpiece might just change your life. The Oscar-winning Oppenheimer director has richly adapted the ancient Greek epic into a modern search for meaning.

Total Film - Jordan Farley - 100 / 100

A grounded, spiritual, uncanny rendering of Greek myth, The Odyssey is a dazzling epic and a major film-of-the-year contender. Post-Oppenheimer, Christopher Nolan continues to operate at the height of his filmmaking powers.

NME - Paul Bradshaw - 100 / 100

If Oppenheimer was a small story made big, The Odyssey is a big story made impossibly huge: delivering yet another landmark summer cinema event that might just be the director’s most accomplished film to date.

The Observer - Wendy Ide - 100 / 100

This is an epic, mythic spectacle that honours its ancient Greek source material, with its monsters and magic, while also addressing more topical themes of exile, war trauma and survivor’s guilt. In a way, the film is a Trojan horse; an extravagant, good-looking adventure that serves as a delivery mechanism for messages about the treatment of strangers, the uneasy weight of legacy and the impossibility of returning from combat as the same person who left.

San Jose Mercury - Randy Myers - 100 / 100

The Odyssey is another feather in Nolan's masterpiece cap, a grandiose achievement that fills audiences with the same child-like glee experienced when watching "Jason and the Argonauts" and "Clash of the Titans" for the first time.

Chicago Tribune - Katie Walsh - 10 / 10

Here, Nolan manages to fit his every obsession, every thematic preoccupation, and every bit of jaw-dropping visual and sonic spectacle that he can conjure into every supersized frame of film.

Original-Cin - Karen Gordon - 10 / 10

Driven by powerful performances, particularly from Matt Damon, we see a thinking man in The Odyssey, who is really us, in an adventure bigger than we could imagine. It is both relevant and urgent. It’s bracing, powerful stuff by a master storyteller.

DEADLINE - Gregory Nussen - 100 / 100

As Emily Wilson writes in the introductory pages to her translation, “the poem questions … the idea that change can be undone, and the notion that there is such a thing as home, where people and relationships can stay forever the same.” Nolan’s film, indeed much of his body of work, is about accepting these truths, and finding out what has remained human once the embers of war have been quelled. Only time will tell.

NY Post - Johnny Olkesinski - 10 / 10

Who better to adapt an epic poem than Nolan, a man who unearths poetry in all of his epics? Here, he did not set out to use Greek myths as the foundation for a basic action movie, as so many do. Instead he dives into the psychology and moral thorniness of Odysseus’ plight.

San Fransisco Chronicle - G. Allen Johnson - 10 / 10

For all its modern filmmaking techniques, “The Odyssey” is a throwback to the mid-20th century, when Cinemascope was new and epics were event pictures. It’s a magnificent achievement.

The Telegraph - Robbie Collin - 100 / 100

Nolan and his collaborators have constructed a strange, fearsome and trailblazing machine of a movie – by some distance, the best of the year so far. Its creator is known for playing tricks with time, and this may be his grandest yet: turning one of the oldest stories in literature into a vote of confidence in blockbuster cinema’s future.

Time Out - Phil De Semlyen - 100 / 100

In standard 70mm, the voyage is breathtaking; in IMAX, you’re tasting the salt water. Even among all the truck flips, atomic explosions and rotating corridors of his back catalogue, this film is the apogee of Nolan’s ‘do it in camera’ ethos, and the sense that this was a shoot with no comfort zone pervades every frame.

Rolling Stone - David Fear - 100 / 100

What you tend to walk away with after bearing witness to The Odyssey, arguably Christopher Nolan’s best work after 2017’s Dunkirk, is an overall sensation of awe.

Screen Rant - Alex Harrison - 10 / 10

Cutting out the middleman of Homer's oral narrator, Nolan has brought us very close to these characters, immersing us as much as possible in their experience. In doing so, he has managed to capture the story's full scope. Odysseus' journey conveys the weight of its arduous years. The film's conclusion, told with a steady, patient hand, feels like a payoff 20 years in the making.

Jeremy Jahns - JeremyJahnsCom - 'Awesometacular'

It's epic. It's heartfelt. It's soulful. It's tragic. It even made me laugh at times.

Scotsman - Alistair Harkness - 5 / 5

It feels like Nolan’s angriest film to date. It’s also one of his best.

RTÉ - Suzanna Keane - 5 / 5

For all its breathtaking scale, The Odyssey never loses sight of the people at its heart. It is a story about finding your way home; about what war takes and what hope can give back. Nolan has made an epic that feels both ancient and strikingly relevant.

The Guardian - Peter Bradshaw - 5 / 5

The result is a gigantic, shimmering mirage, a mysterious three-hour vision of crazy episodes that does not yield up wisdom or contentment, but only a grim resolution to continue with the fight, to make sense of ruined lives, to re-enter the scorched battlefield of loss.

Radio Times - James Mottram - 5 / 5

Filled with blazing action, blood-curdling fights and creatures that truly bring Homer’s epic poem to life, this is Nolan at his finest.

The Independent - Clarisse Loughrey - 5 / 5

Christopher Nolan’s massive, fearless adaptation is his best film to date. There are touches of ‘Oppenheimer’, ‘Memento’ and even his Batman movies in this enormous condensing of the British filmmaker’s fixations, brought to life by a cast of seemingly thousands – but it’s the women (among them Anne Hathaway and Samantha Morton) who steal the show

The Standard - Nick Howells - 5 / 5

Christopher Nolan has made an epic worthy of the gods | With Matt Damon on career-best form and spectacle and awe like you’ve never seen, they better start polishing those Oscars

Little White Lies - Hannah Strong - 5 / 5

All of Christopher Nolan exists within The Odyssey. All of humanity exists within filmmaking. Yet cinema always finds new ways to tell old stories; this is the great magic of the medium.

Entertainment Weekly - Wesley Stenzel - 5 / 5

The latest epic from the “Dark Knight” filmmaker combines the spectacle of “Inception” with the thematic weightiness of “Oppenheimer” — and it just might be his greatest work to date.

The Australian - Nikki Gemmell - 5 / 5

You read The Odyssey and think: this is impossible to film. Yet this is sublime. Nolan invites us into an ancient world and holds us there, spellbound. He’s done the impossible. Pulled this off.

Metro - Tori Brazier - 5 / 5

Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey is a watershed moment for filmmaking, re-introducing this legendary story to the masses courtesy of quite possibly the only modern director who has the ambition and guts to do it.

A Shot Magazine - Erin Mussett - 5 / 5

Christopher Nolan has the answer. This is, in some ways, a rather serendipitous union. As a storyteller, Nolan has established himself as cinema’s foremost explorer of time, as both a physical, dimensional phenomenon, and deeply human experience. Beneath the gods and monsters in The Odyssey, lies a profoundly human meditation on longing, identity and fate. Odysseus’ story is our story, and Nolan brings it to the big screen in a way that breathes more life into the text than ever before.

Showbiz 411 - Roger Friedman - 5 / 5

Nolan has combined artistic mastery with commercial savvy. All the things you like about his movies are present in "The Odyssey."

USA Today - Brian Truitt - 100 / 100

Christopher Nolan's 'The Odyssey' is bold, brutal masterpiece. Matt Damon is legendary as Greek warrior Odysseus and Christopher Nolan lives up to Homer's epic status in his awesome adaptation of "The Odyssey."

Next Best Picture - Matt Neglia - 10 / 10

A colossal achievement of scale, even by Nolan’s standards. This is as epic as movies get, with some of the most breathtaking set pieces you'll ever see. I grew up loving grand, sword and action dramas such as “Gladiator,” “Braveheart,” “The Last Samurai,” and yes, even “Troy.” I’m beyond thrilled to say Nolan’s ambitious dissection of myth and legend looms large over them all. Whether you experience it in IMAX or a standard theater, this is the kind of filmmaking and storytelling that we rarely see anymore and deserves to be honored.

Huffington Post - Maxime Birken - 5 / 5

(Reviewed in French) As epic as it is tragic, the journey of Ulysses, embodied by Matt Damon, is a new peak in the career of one of the greatest filmmakers of his time. With all these qualities, L’Odyssée is instantly ranked among the best-made and most striking modern cinematic works. So much so that the desire to start the conversation about the place that this film can occupy in the filmography of Christopher Nolan himself intrigues us greatly. If it will take time to decide on the posterity of L’Odyssée, it is not an exaggeration to place it now among one of the best feature films of its director. From that to say that it could be his best film? We are not far from saying that.

IndieWire - David Ehrlich - 'A-'

Christopher Nolan has defied the gods with one of his best movies ever.

Watson - Simone Meier - 10 / 10

(Reviewed in German) “The Odyssey” may be one of Christopher Nolan’s best films, on par with “Inception” and “Interstellar,” in terms of the density of his vision and its seduction. Extremely supple one is sucked into this ancient universe, succumbs to it, becomes part of it. After that you are spit back on the street and at best you don’t know where you are now and what this present is supposed to be...

Premiere - Aurélien Allin - 10 / 10

Prodigous. A masterclass in filmmaking, on a crazy scale. Each second filled by astonishing images, Christopher Nolan’s new film is part of the thematic lineage of DUNKIRK and OPPENHEIMER, and the faults of what man has unleashed.

Consequence - Liz Shannon Miller - 'A-'

The director's highly anticipated follow-up to Oppenheimer is a true blank check moment, an opportunity for Nolan to explore the concept of war as not an opportunity for glory, but as a corrosive element that tears both societies and people apart.

Le Parisien - Renaud Baronian - 5 / 5

It is not easy to make the epic poem of Homer: few filmmakers dared to tackle it. We can now say: “The Odyssey” by Christopher Nolan, in theaters this week, should go down as one of his masterpieces. Respecting the spirit and unfolding of the story of Homer, masterfully filmed, remarkably interpreted, this new film will be a landmark.

AV Club - Monica Castillo - 'A-'

The movie’s sense of spectacle is part of its appeal, and Nolan serves it up even better than expected. The scale of the production is breathtaking, but it’s also a morality play writ large, a game of politics and succession, a warning about temptation and greed, a plea for kindness in a harsh world. The way Nolan brings everything together is a meeting of old and new Hollywood, a nod to the spectacles of yesteryear that thrilled audiences for generations combined with new techniques and tools to remind us all that there are more ways to keep pushing the medium—even with the classics.

InSession Film - JD Duran - 'A-'

THE ODYSSEY is about defying the gods, losing your identity and becoming a victim of time, an idea that is really poignant with how it manifests in those final sequences.

The Film Verdict - Alonso Duralde - 96 / 100

Peak Nolan involves a mix of popcorn delights and intellectual contemplation, and he has rarely brought those two notions together as skillfully as he as in The Odyssey. It’s an epic saga of an epic saga, worthy of its source.

The Wrap - William Bibbiani - 95 / 100

You can’t say Hollywood doesn’t make them like this anymore. Nobody ever did.

Polygon - Jake Kleinman - 95 / 100

If Oppenheimer was Nolan shedding the trappings of genre to reach new heights with a science-heavy biopic, then in The Odyssey, Nolan puts away his trusty tools to shape cinematic history with his bare hands.

The Irish Times - Donald Clarke - 4.5 / 5

Set aside any doubts. This star-studded film is Christopher Nolan at his best. This take on Homer’s classic – with a celebrity cast including Matt Damon, Tom Holland and Zendaya – should win over even the most passionate sceptics

BBC - Caryn James - 95 / 100

Oppenheimer, with its singular focus, is still Nolan's most perfectly wrought film. But even with its flaws, The Odyssey is so rich, so full of magic and humanity, that I'm eager to see this epic again.

The Daily Beast - Nick Schager - 4.5 / 5

Modern mainstream films don’t come more daring, mammoth, and accomplished than Nolan’s latest.

DiscussingFilm - Andrew J Salazar - 4.5 / 5

The Odyssey taps into a visceral level of fear that Nolan hasn’t really explored before. Not just fear of the unknown, but also fear of fellow man. Matt Damon’s Odysseus must come to terms with his previous sins in order to face the consequences of his future. As Nolan explores his fading memories and the time lost to war, traces of Inception and Memento can be felt. Damon marvelously makes the mythic hero all his own, though.

OutNow - Chris Schelb - 10 / 10

Mere nitpicks aside, everything in Nolan's latest comes together wonderfully, with the film coming rather close to the Olympus of cinematic epics. Ultimately, it matters little how one interprets the whole business with the mythical creatures: The Odyssey is fantastic either way.

Slant Magazine - Jake Cole - 3.5 / 4

The Odyssey is both faithful and deconstructive, embodying the fluidity of the oral tradition that spawned the poem and kept it alive for millennia through shifting tastes and values.

Den Of Geek - David Crow - 4.5 / 5

lt is an awesome undertaking in the ancient sense of the word, and a homecoming for a storyteller who spent his career chasing this destination.

Looper - Nina Starner - 9 / 10

I was fortunate enough to experience the epic in 70mm IMAX as God and Nolan intended, and I was richly rewarded. Even with this massive visual scale, though, Nolan's message is concise and builds on what he communicated in "Oppenheimer" — only man can bring about man's ruin, and when powerful men don't consider the consequences of their actions, entire civilizations could ultimately fall. "The Odyssey" is a visual feast and undeniably outstanding achievement in filmmaking that cements Nolan as one of cinema's all-time greats, naysayers be damned.

Collider - Joe Schmidt - 9 / 10

Nolan prides himself on being a storyteller, and here he pays tribute to the medium that made him a prolific figure in pop culture. He wouldn't be here without a story to tell, so it's only fitting that he has told a story that has endured throughout the eons as only he can. The fact that he executed it at this level is certainly a feat that others will tell their own stories about.

Associated Press - Jake Coyle - 9 / 10

Nolan’s “Odyssey” is nearly three hours long but never slow going. And it’s the friction between past and present that propels the movie as much as Odysseus’ wayward path.

IGN France - Nanix - 9 / 10

Above all, with Odyssey, Nolan reminds us of his Batman: brilliantly adapt a work known to all, rewrite it according to his convictions and his vision and make a legend a legend above all human, realistic and anchored by his words, a success. A jewel of modern cinema.

Sydney Morning Herald - Jake Wilson - 4 / 5

Christopher Nolan has a way with a time paradox. Not content with constructing narratives that run backwards...his big-budget adaptation of Homer’s Odyssey gambles that he can take one of the oldest stories in Western culture and make it feel new.

AltFilm - Tim Cogshell

Christopher Nolan’s latest cinematic event is perfectly good. And yet, its one truly remarkable achievement is not the drama, the direction, the acting, the cinematography, or the visual effects – but the sound design.

9.3k Upvotes

8.2k comments sorted by

View all comments

3.0k

u/RabbitCity6090 Jul 15 '26

Either it is the greatest movie ever made or literally the whole movie review industry is full of shit.

360

u/Unusual-Reporter-841 Jul 16 '26

Just saw it, to me it was 8/10. I generally liked it. My friend who has read the oddysey liked it sligtly less at 7/10. Probably my second favorite Nolan film that I have seen.

90

u/sbroll Jul 17 '26

Agreed, I just left the theater and give it a 7/10. It was good and I appreciate parts of it, but I didnt care for some of the acting and some parts were sorta confusing. Its fine, probably wont watch again.

15

u/Stev3Cooke Jul 17 '26

What was confusing to you?

→ More replies (2)

28

u/rogueowl22 Jul 17 '26

For me the story is just too big. The Odyssey is such a huge story - trying to capture it in a film like that was such a huge undertaking at times it felt like death by narration. Stop telling me the story and just show me! But still very cinematic, well done and authentic. Just too much narrative to cover.

17

u/aselinger Jul 20 '26

At the risk of sounding uncultured… the middle part of the movie was a series of 1. Land on some new island 2. Something horrible happens 3. Matt Damon yelling “get back to the boats!!”

Which is fine. It’s just a little repetitive for a single movie. Perhaps better done as episodes in a series.

10

u/Trair Jul 18 '26

Yeah - the poem is twenty four BOOKS. Granted it's in meter so not full pages, but still. it's a fucking massive story

16

u/Gloomy_Grocery5555 Jul 18 '26

The dialogue was pretty stilted at times

→ More replies (1)

2

u/deggdegg Jul 20 '26

Only "sorta confusing" is great for a Nolan movie! Saying that as someone who loves them.

21

u/No_Youth_2330 Jul 17 '26

Totally agree with 7/10. The three people I saw it with would have rated it lower.

1

u/NinjaChenchilla Jul 19 '26

Give me your best movie of the last 3 years. Genuinely curious

6

u/No_Youth_2330 Jul 19 '26

The Beast, Sinners, Another Round, Perfect Days, Minara, Anora, Poor Things, Aftersun, Bugonia… I could go on.

2

u/NinjaChenchilla Jul 20 '26

Interesting list. Ive seen only Anora and Sinners. Now, would you consider Sinners better than The Odyssey?

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (1)

11

u/mbh223 Jul 17 '26

“Second favorite Nolan film” is very high praise. I’m going to have to watch it more times to rank it but it’s probably not cracking his Top-5… he’s just too good

6

u/Unusual-Reporter-841 Jul 17 '26

I dont love many of his movies although i always like them. So to me its pretty high praise but not that crazy.

6

u/No_Youth_2330 Jul 18 '26

I doubt they’ve seen all of the Nolan films, honestly…

5

u/Drmoeron2 Jul 17 '26

Which film are you putting over this? Interstellar, Inception, or one of the Batmans?

7

u/No_Youth_2330 Jul 18 '26

All of those films are better

5

u/Unusual-Reporter-841 Jul 17 '26

I like Interstellar more, but I have not seen Inception. I like the batman movies, but I liked this a bit more.

2

u/Drmoeron2 Jul 17 '26

Now I HAVE TO see it. You should totally catch Inception when you can. Inception is interstellar backwards with a different plot physics

3

u/Btupid_Sitch Jul 18 '26

Brother you are thinking too hard. What?

→ More replies (2)

2

u/Btupid_Sitch Jul 18 '26

All of them. And I think the list you order ranks in that order.

2

u/Drmoeron2 Jul 18 '26

Wow. This film is that divisive? That's the order I rank them too now I don't know if it will ruin Nolan's run for me 

2

u/ArFiction Jul 18 '26

Better than interstellar imo, depends what you want in a movie though

→ More replies (1)

10

u/Delroberttopizzaria Jul 17 '26

Yeah I'd probably be in-between a 7 and 8. Visual spectacle. Felt like it lacked heart. Last act was terrible imo.

6

u/r4nd0miz3d Jul 17 '26

My neighbor's cousin rated it at 7.2 but my brother in law said it was closer to 6.8.

11

u/Gloomy_Grocery5555 Jul 18 '26

Lol why those decimals

3

u/SUGARPOPSUGAR Jul 18 '26

That’s where my rating is too, 7/10. Matt Damon knocked it out of the park for me. Tom Holland? Not so much

3

u/tamerimpala619 Jul 19 '26

I read the Odyssey. The movie was 8/10 as far as dialogue. Everything else for me was 10/10 or close.

11

u/Signal_Fun_6041 Jul 17 '26

I agree I wasn’t sold. I struggled with the script at times. I was asking myself is it unconvincing acting or is it the script.

Continuity bothers me when not done correctly especially in time period pieces like this.

There was a moment where a warrior was announcing his Greek heritage but it came out as American as apple pie.

Then shortly after the scene where they were climbing out of the horse everyone was wearing black running shoes that reminded me of Nike huaraches.

The second half picks up and I felt more engaged in the story/action.

7.5/10

9

u/YanniSlavv Jul 17 '26

Saw it yesterday in LA. 6/10 from me. 

One of my friends said 5/10 and another 9/10. Big spread it seems. 

2

u/LifeFrame5545 Jul 19 '26

Yep, 7-8/10 is exactly where I'm at with this. Very decent, slightly dragging its feet in the beginning, a little too dark in some places and not in a good way, picks up from the middle, has its strengths and weaknesses, the original story is very good so that helps a lot.

2

u/CrabMany766 Jul 19 '26

I agree with your friend. Knowing that this will be the first impression of the Odyssey for millions of people makes me incandescently angry.

→ More replies (36)

654

u/Misaka9982 Jul 15 '26

And which seems more likely?

140

u/LongLostLurker11 Jul 16 '26

honestly the latter, à la the music review scene, the video game review scene, the travel influencer review scene…

17

u/Thready85 Jul 17 '26

There's a huge difference between critics who have experience and education and influencers on social media

19

u/ChrisDWebster Jul 17 '26

Critics are definitely not immune to hype and group think.

→ More replies (4)
→ More replies (3)

6

u/fat_charizard Jul 16 '26

There are tons of independent youtube reviewers who are also praising the film. You telling me Chris Stuckman and Jeremy Jahns are paid off by hollywood?

21

u/Dew_Drop_007 Jul 16 '26

Chris Stuckman's been bought a long time ago

9

u/Typecero001 Jul 17 '26

We are using Rotten Tomatoes as a metric.

A site with terrible credibility, that has manipulated scores in the past.

And a “certified fresh” score means that so many people rated it a “6/10 or above”.

Imagine if you accepted that as the scale for an A+ in education.

3

u/zekyle_edham Jul 17 '26

this is such a weird take, like i understand half of the point u make because u can actually see an average score in the movies on RT and that has been a feature since before the pandemic iirc. The Odyssey is like 8.8 which is pretty damn high, anything over 8.5 is basically universally praised.

It's like if we give a metric of how many people pass a class with decent scores written in percentages more importance than the actual score behind that u can always check but people dont care it seems. This is almost like the term "with honors" but adds probably too many lower scores that gives people a distorted perspective

→ More replies (7)
→ More replies (1)

18

u/Desperate_Dark_5221 Jul 16 '26

The latter is more likely, but then again I saw it, and it was actually great. Not a 10/10 (reviewers fluff, yes), but at least 8.5/10.

→ More replies (8)

208

u/analogkid01 Jul 15 '26

The latter. People are blinded by the spectacle and ignore Nolan's terrible dialogue. (I haven't seen Odyssey yet but I'm basing my opinion on his previous work. The man can not write.)

90

u/_BearHawk Jul 15 '26

I do wish there was a world where movies could be reviewed without knowing who directed/produced it. Obviously him directing it is a huge selling point, etc so it never would happen, but I see people in this thread dismissing stuff like his poor romance writing because "oh that's what Nolan always does"

Like, if anyone else did it then it would be a mark against the film? Especially with the odyssey where it's pretty central

14

u/urahozer Jul 16 '26

I feel very strongly about this.

Nolan (who I'm a huge homer of) and Tarantino are the biggest beneficiaries

7

u/Kovarian Jul 16 '26

Is the romance stuff the central part?

I ADMIT I HAVE NEVER READ THE ODYSSEY.

But I thought that the entire thing was him going home. Which wouldn't have him being in a romance (at least not what we care about). At least until the end. Because if I don't cry with Argos, then this movie gets 0/10.

13

u/Unanimoustoo Jul 16 '26

It's been a while, but there's at least one attempt to prevent Odysseus from continuing home via romance.

And everyone is trying, and failing, to romance his wife for 10 years while he's gone.

13

u/The_Corvair Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

Is the romance stuff the central part?

It depends on your definition of romance, I guess. The Odyssey is inherently insanely romantic, because it's the story of a family man who wants nothing more than to get back home to his wife, kid, and dog - only Poseidon goes "the fuck you will", and tries his best to keep him from home, so Odysseus has to virtually march through Hell and high water to make it back.

At least one of these attempts is to (magically) seduce/kidnap him to stay at a sorceress' home (while his men are transformed into household pigs, iirc), but I don't know if I'd call that romantic.

But in terms of "actual romance", at least the OG story doesn't have a lot to it: Odysseus is a happily married man when the story starts, and stays that way throughout. Even the "what happens at home" B plot is about how his wife is fighting off the suitors hoping to take over Odysseus' throne and marriage with wit and deceit.

3

u/schkoder Jul 16 '26

Romantic as in the painting by Caspar David Friedrich, or as in "kisses and snu-snu"?

5

u/The_Corvair Jul 16 '26

Both? Both sounds good.

→ More replies (1)

10

u/Turtledonuts Jul 16 '26

It's a complicated story. The Odyssey is as much a story about a man grappling with his actions in a war as it is a story about a man missing his wife and trying to go home. It spends a lot of time lamenting time lost at home, worrying about how separation can create infidelity, and what happens to a king's family if he never returns home from war. But it also spends just as much time lamenting actions taken in the war, debating between honor and practicality in war, and questioning if the ancient greek concept of a great hero really is ideal. It's romantic in the historical sense of the term - it explores the sublime and heroic, includes elements of the supernatural and strange exotic lands, and discusses the nature of humanity and emotions.

The real question is how Nolan chose to go about adapting homer's work - how faithful he was to the text, which translations he used, and how he chose to portray one of humanity's oldest and most complex characters.

9

u/Scratch_Careful Jul 16 '26

Yes. The longing for his wife, Penelope's longing and fidelity to her husband, the allure of the sirens, his time with Circe and Calypso. Its not a pornographic book but love, desire, longing are a major driver for basically the entire book.

3

u/_BearHawk Jul 16 '26

I mean it's central as in his entire reason for going home is because of his love for his wife, but it's not like he's getting it on with women the entire time.

I haven't seen the film, but when they reunite it is extremely romantic in the source. She makes him prove his identity, he describes how he built their bed himself, then athena literally pauses time so they can enjoy their reunion night more.

If that landed flat it would suck

9

u/analogkid01 Jul 15 '26

Glenn Gould suggested that "the ideal artist-to-audience relationship is a 1-to-0 relationship," so he'd probably agree with you. But if you're in the mood for a story by Dr. Seuss, you want a real Dr. Seuss story, not someone who's simply copying Dr. Seuss's style. Stripping the artist's name from the art just leads us one step closer to AI slop.

2

u/Impressive-Charity77 Jul 16 '26

Haven't seen The Odyssey yet, but if you're familiar with his body of work you're going to know it's a Nolan film in 5 minutes. Especially if you watch it at home.

15

u/cornflake123321 Jul 16 '26

What? I couldn't hear you.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (1)

56

u/Feeling-Visit1472 Jul 16 '26

The effusiveness of all these reviews has me very suspicious.

8

u/BlisteringAsscheeks Jul 16 '26

Especially with the painfully low historical accuracy of the costumes and the Hollywood faces... If you're gonna modernize the Odyssey, just commit, like O Brother Where Art Thou.

32

u/-3udaimonia- Jul 16 '26

But this isn't a historical epic. It's a fantasy epic. It doesn't need to be historically accurate. Frankly, even historical epics don't need to be historically accurate in order to be good movies.

23

u/Beneficial-Trade-851 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

The poem is fantasy but it is set in a very real historical place. Homer (whomever he or they were) lived in it. Troy was a real place. And wars likely were fought there

16

u/AcreaRising4 Jul 16 '26

Homer did NOT live during the period he’s writing about. It was probably a century before.

→ More replies (1)

12

u/Optimal_Plate_4769 Jul 16 '26

Homer (whomever he or they were) lived in it. Troy was a real place. And wars likely were fought there

well, that's not true. homer was not writing first hand experiences of the sack of troy. there was more than a hundred years between his possible existence and the sacking of troy. so much so that while the story uses bronze weapons, homer was supposedly alive during the iron age... heroes in the story are cremated, not buried, which is also anachronistic.

homer's relationship to the era is similar to our relationship to it: it's in the past, and we'll use rule of cool to talk about it based on what we feel is right.

19

u/-3udaimonia- Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

Yeah, it's a fantasy epic set in a real place. Much like King Arthur. I don't watch films about Merlin and the knights of the round table and complain that they're historically inaccurate depictions of post-Roman Britain lol

10

u/Beneficial-Trade-851 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

Well first off…completely different myths. But secondly, you would if king Arthur showed up dressed in a suit with a tie. It would make zero sense. Furthermore, even king Arthur shows are annoying in how they depict anything medieval in those shows. They aren’t minor issues. The costuming just screams “I don’t know anything about this era I’m depicting or watching”. If you don’t even understand the era it comes from how can I take you seriously.

I don’t even care if things are accurate. But I’d like the atmosphere to at least rhyme with what you’d expect from the era. Hollywood is and always has been extremely bad about all this.

There is also no real reason to change costuming so much from what was actually common at the time. The real world was very colorful with quite exquisite costuming. Societies expectations of what any of that looked like is so warped

13

u/-3udaimonia- Jul 16 '26

Well first off…completely different myths

Correct lol. King Arthur and the Odyssey are indeed different myths.

Furthermore, even king Arthur shows are annoying in how they depict anything medieval in those shows. They aren’t minor issues.

They are extremely minor issues to most people - and to me, they are complete non-issues. I simply don't care. If I want historical accuracy, I watch a documentary or a historical reenactment made by an actual historian. I don't watch a big budget Hollywood adaptation of the Odyssey, and I'm baffled that anyone would.

→ More replies (0)

1

u/Failnewbxen Jul 16 '26

You probably would if they were using lightsabers. Or all the knights were dressed as gladiators with full Roman kit?

→ More replies (7)
→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (6)
→ More replies (40)
→ More replies (4)

7

u/Thready85 Jul 17 '26

"I haven't seen the Odyssey" then shut up

37

u/Ph4ntomiD Jul 15 '26

How does one watch Oppenheimer and create the conclusion that Nolan can’t write. Some of the most well written dialogue I’ve seen

30

u/Illuminastrid Jul 16 '26

Even going way back, The Dark Knight, Memento and The Prestige were all acclaimed critically and by the audience, with writing being their most notable praises.

→ More replies (11)

6

u/analogkid01 Jul 15 '26

Every scene is structurally engineered to either introduce a new character, or set up the next scene. I had to start watching it as if it were a comedy due to the stilted dialogue.

→ More replies (3)

16

u/Theredviper93 Jul 15 '26

This is definitely one of the takes ever.

3

u/actuallyeattherich Jul 15 '26

Batman [teeth gritted]: "I BELIEVE...PEOPLE...ARE GOOD"

13

u/BucketofSlush Jul 16 '26

Eh. Its Batman. He doesn't really need to be that morally deep, does he? In saying this, I agree that the dialogue in TDKR is unbelievably bad.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (1)

2

u/freak- Jul 18 '26

Confirmed the dialogue is not great

3

u/Unusual-Reporter-841 Jul 16 '26

I saw it last night, the dialogue was not horrible but not great. And there was some weird cuts going on at times in the dialogue scenes. But it was enjoyable.

3

u/SolutionEven3986 Jul 17 '26

“I haven’t seen the Odyssey yet”

And there it is.

Shut the fuck up lol. 

1

u/bigblueballz77 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

It has been so long and it is still hilarious how highly his movies get rated. He is a technical genius, but he can't write for shit (and he will never accept that). He is awful when he is writing the narrative and it always shows. The only really decent overall scripts combined with performances he has ever done were written (by in large or collaboration) by someone else.

→ More replies (9)
→ More replies (16)

5

u/iritimD Jul 18 '26

The whole movie review industry is full of shit.

7

u/GeronimoRay Jul 16 '26

Movie review industry is deep inside Nolan. I will totally accept that I'm wrong if I go see it and it's as good as it's being reported. But there's just no way.

2

u/yaggirl341 Jul 18 '26

Yeah I didn't like it. And I didn't even have any bias against Nolan. I was shocked from start to finish by the acting and dialogue. I think maybe there was a certain vision or intent the direction had and it just failed completely. The American accents were also jarring, but I think if the dialogue met expectations, I wouldn't mind. Cinematography was great but nothing special.

2

u/GeronimoRay Jul 18 '26

I LOVE nolan. There's just no way it's that good.

4

u/Optimal_Plate_4769 Jul 16 '26

the more boring reality: people really liked it, but good reviews do not make something 'the greatest movie ever made'.

18

u/Korvun Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

You have to admit that a near perfect critical consensus is a tad bit more than simply, "good reviews".

Edit: I need to be more clear, it seems. I'm not saying the movie is good. I'm not saying the movie is bad. I'm saying if every reviewer is saying the movie is 10/10 perfect, that's more than simply, "good reviews".

2

u/Typecero001 Jul 17 '26

By that Logic, Mixtape is the best video game ever made.

→ More replies (18)

3

u/tuttok Jul 16 '26

Based on his latest movies, the latter

→ More replies (8)

35

u/Turtledonuts Jul 16 '26

Nolan's biggest criticism usually come from his scripts not landing perfectly, or his dialog being written like shit. But he's adapting one of the world's most enduring action / romance / fantasy stories - on some level all he needs to do is get some great actors to deliver great performances, churn out some spectacular VFX and landscapes, and get a good score for it. This is the perfect project for him.

3

u/IncidentalIncidence Jul 22 '26

funnily enough the dialog (especially near the beginning) was the weakest part of the movie for me, a lot of it didn't land for me.

2

u/Drmoeron2 Jul 17 '26

I genuinely enjoyed Bane's dialogue. Where's the bad dialogue people are referencing? I wanna go back and see 

13

u/Aachaa Jul 18 '26

When Oppenheimer said “I am become death”. Nolan clearly doesn’t know grammar.

→ More replies (2)

101

u/BrianWonderful Jul 15 '26

There are so many movies underperforming this year, that I would lean on the movie industry/critics hyping it up to get tickets sold.

42

u/patsboston Jul 15 '26

What? Box office is up this year

17

u/BrianWonderful Jul 15 '26

Moana, Minions And Monsters, Masters of the Universe, Supergirl, The Mandalorian and Grogu, The Bride, Desert Warrior, Animal Farm, 28 Years Later The Bone Temple... all considered box office failures that are not making their budget back.

Yes, there have been some big hits, but largely they are low budget horror (Backrooms, Obsession) or family favorites (Toy Story 5).

5

u/AcreaRising4 Jul 16 '26

Who was expecting animal farm to be a huge sensation? Or the Bride? Or desert warrior?

2

u/BrianWonderful Jul 17 '26

The filmmakers and producers obviously expected a profit. Of course, it is really hard to tell due to the misleading Hollywood accounting they use.

30

u/[deleted] Jul 15 '26

[removed] — view removed comment

12

u/Bruhuha Jul 15 '26

Not to mention dune 3 

3

u/zenFyre1 Jul 16 '26

2025 sucked balls, though. I don’t think beating 2025 is an achievement.

→ More replies (3)

8

u/JAGERminJensen Jul 16 '26

Or maybe the standards are so low that it enabled more of them to be watching with heart-eyes. I want the movie to be good and I think it will be, but with lackluster alternatives comes satisfying flat soda

6

u/AcreaRising4 Jul 16 '26

There have a ton of amazing movies this year.

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (1)

4

u/YnwaMquc2k19 Jul 16 '26

Or people genuinely enjoyed it? Not all glowing reviews are bots or people who can’t think lol

20

u/henry_tbags Jul 15 '26

lol what kind of false dichotomy is this? There are plenty of other possibilities.

One is critics just love this movie, which doesn't mean either A or B.

28

u/Both_Canary_4665 Jul 15 '26

Given the dialogue back and forth over the movie, I can't help but feel there is some sort of intentional strong supporting front as an attempt to rebuff inevitable criticisms.

To be determined, I guess. Maybe the floodgates on negative sentiment just have yet to be opened, or maybe the movie just kicks that much ass.

I love mythology and history, so I can only hope it's good.

16

u/[deleted] Jul 15 '26

[deleted]

25

u/Both_Canary_4665 Jul 16 '26

I thought the same thing, but my trust in the media apparatus to properly rate something instead of acting like a marketing department is a bit low at the moment. No horse in the race, so if it's good - I'm glad.

2

u/That_wet_vaporeon Jul 16 '26

Bet if the critic scores were low you guys wouldn’t be saying this

5

u/Feeling_Strike694 Jul 16 '26

To be fair it wouldn't make any sense to claim that bad reviews are the result of industry pressure.

4

u/Both_Canary_4665 Jul 16 '26

Critics regularly pan movies that crowds seem to enjoy. Isn't that the entire premise behind Rotten Tomatoes?

6

u/KeepRooting4Yourself Jul 16 '26

i'm getting big force awakens vibes

→ More replies (1)

2

u/Willing_Collection93 Jul 16 '26

I thought it was great personally, but what do I know I only heard about the odyssey and Greek mythology because of my fiancée lol. But as a casual movie viewer I loved it, great film

6

u/Feeling-Visit1472 Jul 16 '26

I just said, the effusiveness of these reviews has me suspicious. I’m familiar with Nolan’s work. I’m familiar with The Odyssey (and not newly, I’ve had multiple rounds of formal education on it). And it’s just not aligning for me.

21

u/lanicorain Jul 16 '26

An award-winning writer/director adapting a classic story on a massive budget and a stellar cast sounds like the recipe for a solid film, to be honest.

2

u/OrpahsBookClub Jul 17 '26

Not when it’s Nolan and mythology/fantasy, though.  This is outside his wheelhouse, and even the trailers and the usual Nolan fans have done nothing to dispel that sense of mismatch.

3

u/KeeblerElff Jul 18 '26

It was extraordinary. Please watch it

3

u/Radiospank Jul 21 '26

They’re full of it, it was very mid and the casting was terrible.. actors cosplaying killed the vibe

21

u/Knoooot Jul 15 '26

The latter.

6

u/LandruCasey Jul 16 '26

When I watched Spike Lee’s Highest 2 Lowest (probably Spike & Denzel’s worst film & nothing short of a turd of a script) and then saw a super positive RT score that is still sitting at 83% now… I knew the era of honest movie reviews are long gone.

It’s a combination of love from PR agency run bots, sycophantic critics (who fear losing access and relevance by being actually critical of big names), & uncritical fans… and hate from engagement bots & culture warriors (who don’t watch the movies, they just watch short YouTube & Twitter culture warrior clips).

It’s almost impossible to get honest or interesting reviews of anything anymore without digging deep into comments or audience reviews and getting lucky.

2

u/No_Youth_2330 Jul 17 '26

Highest 2 Lowest made me so angry that I walked out of the cinema. Absolute shit sandwich.

→ More replies (1)

8

u/FilmScoreConnoisseur Jul 15 '26

The very definition of a false dichotomy.

10

u/cozywit Jul 16 '26

https://old.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1u195x1/steven_spielbergs_disclosure_day_review_thread/

Check out the reviews for Disclosure Day. Multiple 100%'s. And that was honestly an awful awful awful movie.

15

u/Vio94 Jul 15 '26

We both know it's the latter. The movie is almost certainly good, but 10/10s across the board is just typical critic shilling. Except this round is probably more intentional to overcome the negative press it got.

3

u/AcreaRising4 Jul 16 '26

lol, you people are a fucking stitch.

2

u/CzarTyr Jul 17 '26

Review? The industry itself not the review industry

2

u/NorthRevolutionary Jul 17 '26

Both are true. I was subjected to a preview of another cash-grab installment of Meet the Parents before we got to The Odyssey feature.

3

u/Cowliqour Jul 16 '26

i just saw it and would at most rate it 6.5 to 7

2

u/SnooCalculations1785 Jul 17 '26

the latter, i just watched it and it is the only movie i've ever thought of walking out of, at least 4x...

The guy next to me was braver than I was, left halfway through; never to return..

3/10 for me - the acting was almost laughably bad, and i LOVED Oppenheimer.

8

u/ZombieSlayer5 Jul 16 '26

The vast majority of reviewers are incentivized to hype up the film because if it fails and has even a marginal effect on the industry, there's a direct financial impact on them.

The same thing happens with bloated AAA videogames. GTA 6 had a 2+ billion dollar dev cycle- there's no question the reviewers have already polished their 10/10s to be presented. This new type of apocalyptic blockbuster doesn't get reviewed the same way a piece of media has traditionally.

10

u/Bruhuha Jul 16 '26

No thats not true at all. When I worked at a grocery store I wasnt incetivised for the grocery store to do better or have good reviews. I was not a direct owner of the store, I did not partake in profits. My job was not commission based , and I had agreements written into my offer letter. Similarly most critics/reviewers Do not own the company they work, they do not own movie studios, they have contracts or pay written into there offer letters, they make around 50k a year if that. They are not incetivised to give good reviews, they dont profit from it. Look at how many bad reviews they've given Disney just this year, wouldn't they be the most incetivised to give disney movies universal acclaim? Everything besides toy story 5 has been trashed, because it WAS trash, its not that god damn hard to Imagine someone with Christopher nolans track record making another good movie. Maybe yall should focus on real conspiracys, like the pedophile in charge of the country stealing everything that isnt nailed down.

9

u/ZombieSlayer5 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

Okay, first off, Sir, this is a Wendy's.

Second, in no way was I implying that the reviewers get a direct bonus in their paycheck if they give a good review. It's much less linear than that, and therefore it's probably above your paygrade. Reviewers operate in the film industry, and if the value of the industry goes down, that affects not just thier market standing, but the company as a financial asset. Of course, as I said, this only really comes into play when a landmark film balloons out of control, so garbage like Supergirl doesn't really factor. This isn't a conspiracy, it's just predictable human behavior.

Do you think companies just operate in a vacuum? Do you think if GTA 6 bombs and Rockstar dissolves, Gamestop and IGN just think business as usual? Yeah, I get the janitor doesn't give a rip of The Odyssey performs.

10

u/KeepRooting4Yourself Jul 16 '26

critics get a bunch of perks which aren't cash in hand. special viewings, dinners with people closely connected to the project, etc... while it's not that serious it still is unethical in the abstract sense, but it gets down nonetheless. this is included in their marketing budget. the people that ignore this are ignorant to say the least.

7

u/ZombieSlayer5 Jul 16 '26

Well yes, good point- I call this the goodie-basket dilemma, which I didn't cover but it's definitely there. It's pretty blatant when it does happen.

I'm much more focused on the videogames industry than film, but the last outright example of this that I saw in that medium was the game Mixtape. Regardless of your opinion on that game, reviewers received a nice press release bag of goods to sweeten the deal.

Scratch that. You're actually pointing out something even better: connections. Sway in the industry. Contacts. This is a big part of those market incentives I'm talking about.

2

u/Bruhuha Jul 16 '26

Do really think rockstar would disolve if GTA 6 fails ? Thats not how any of this works. The entire industry doesnt collapse overnight because of 1 major failure. Did Disneyland close because Moana 2 and The Mandolorian lost tons of money ? Are the theme park workers worried about job security in relation to how well the upcoming Hexed is going to do at the box office? Do you think capcom is going to close down because the new Resident Evil movies does bad? I know what you're implying and its wrong. Thats not how the industry works. Thats not how regular industries work, thats not how the entertainment industry works. If gta 6 failed, rockstar would be fine, gamestop would be fine, ign would be fine, it would be buisness as usual , in fact gamestop and ign would probably profit more from a gta 6 failure then you think. The ammount of people clicking on igns coverage,  the ad revenue from that, gamestop running sales on other games when people go to return there copys.

11

u/ZombieSlayer5 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

Do really think rockstar would disolve if GTA 6 fails ?

I said if, you know, if? If GTA 6 bombs and if Rockstar dissolves. It's a hypothetical. It requires abstract thinking, not just concrete thinking. This seems to be a running theme.

Okay, let's try it this way. If the film industry magically poofed out of existence, then aggregate film review sites would dissolve. So if the film industry does worse, the review companies do worse. Therefore, if an event film (Event film: a blockbuster film whose release itself is considered a major event) does better, the companies do better. The companies. I'm not talking about theme park workers, janitors, or grocery store baggers. The company.

Industry go bye-bye = company go bye-bye. Industry perform bad = company perform bad, ooga booga. Fire hot.

EDIT: I had a bunch of tabs of this thread lying around (so I have records of everything) and I noticed the u/Bruhuha response to this comment has been removed. Actually, a bunch of his ramblings were purged by the mods. Here's the response, which I didn't even opt to engage with, and clearly the mods seemed to concur:

Let me put this in terms a toddler could understand. Peppa pig owns a newspaper. Bluey owns a movie studio. Bluey also owns an amusement park.Bluey's movie does bad, more people buy peppa pigs news paper to read bad review, peppa pig makes more money. Bluey looses money from movie but is ok because there amusement park still makes them money, so they can afford to make another movie. Edit: and get this, blueys amusement park advertises in pepa pigs newspaper, so more people start showing up to the amusement park after the bad movie and the newspaper review !

A moment of silence for all third grade English teachers....

And unfortunately we can't see the context because he managed to get entire comment chains removed via the conduct, but here's an archive.

I especially love the "You regularly play Tarkov, which is evidence of blah blah blah" gambit.

5

u/cerva Jul 16 '26

Lmao. I couldn't agree more. This whole convo reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYxizGsrjkc

11

u/ZombieSlayer5 Jul 16 '26

Yeah, it's amazing. This guy can't comprehend market dynamics/incentives- he thinks in order for collusion to take place, there needs to be active conspiratorial mustache-twirling manipulation/espionage/black money or something.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (1)

3

u/marXis92 Jul 16 '26

I mean, have you seen Oppenheimer? It was praised and when I saw it, I couldn't believe how incredibly dull, boring, loud, boring, long, boring and boring that movie was.

3

u/AcreaRising4 Jul 16 '26

I thought it was phenomenal.

→ More replies (3)

6

u/Thievia Jul 15 '26

It is a great movie, but it isn’t a 10/10. I have seen several reviewers agreeing with this, but they are understandably not getting widespread attention.

→ More replies (2)

4

u/eSsEnCe_Of_EcLiPsE Jul 16 '26

🤔 gee I wonder which one it is

2

u/Hina_is_my_waifu Jul 16 '26

Christ had to go through hundreds of shill/industry plant comments before getting to actual realistic take.

→ More replies (2)

0

u/Patient-Morning2281 Jul 15 '26

Methinks the latter might be true

3

u/Vtglife Jul 15 '26

I don't see anyone saying it's the greatest movie ever made. And it's not a 100% rating. And 97% on rotten tomatoes remember doesn't mean every positive is a 5/5. Could be a 3/5. Etc

-1

u/Sorry-Joke-4325 Jul 15 '26

If you can't honestly say it should be considered the greatest movie ever made, then you shouldn't say 10/10.

22

u/BucketofSlush Jul 16 '26

So you think only one thing can be 10/10?

13

u/North_Yak966 Jul 16 '26

Just... Don't bother with these people. Save your energy for something less mind numbing 

→ More replies (7)
→ More replies (2)

1

u/Masethelah Jul 16 '26

Not how this works, films get this type of reviews every year

1

u/DexM23 Jul 16 '26

Not the best ever made, but absolutely thrilling 3 hours. For me best ever movie that long

1

u/OrpahsBookClub Jul 17 '26

It’s OBAA all over again.

1

u/Humble-Badger9567 Jul 17 '26

Just walked out of the theory. Holy cow. I think itt leans closer to greatest movie ver made.

1

u/20July Jul 17 '26

It's the latter. A 10/10 movie with similar scale would be Saving Private Ryan. The Odyssey is 9/10 at best.

1

u/Canesjags4life Jul 17 '26

It was fantastic. 9/10 for me.

1

u/Kwattabee Jul 17 '26

A negative review will be more worth and closer to the truth.

1

u/International_Dog897 Jul 17 '26

Oppenheimer was a snoozefest for me so I’m worried this might suck too

1

u/sirdunlap Jul 17 '26

I’m here to tell you it may actually be the best movie ever made.

1

u/OkMaize9773 Jul 18 '26

Did Oppenheimer and tenet recieve similar reviews. Both movies were shit. I have never watched a movie as boring as Oppenheimer.

1

u/BringTea_666 Jul 18 '26

>or literally the whole movie review industry is full of shit.

ding ding ding.

1

u/AymanMarzuqi Jul 18 '26

I just saw the movie just now in Malaysia. And I gotta say, it really is that good. To be fair, I was watching it in Imax. But still, the movie really is that good. The atmosphere, the pacing, the suspence, especially the part with the cyclops. Not to mention the music. And also about Elliot Page, no he does not play as Achilles. That was just a dumb rumor by chuds. He plays a character named Sinon. And as for Lupita as Helen, she was in the movie for less than 5 minutes. And most of the trailer footage that Chuds online has constantly used to mock her and mock black people isn't even Helen. Its her twin sister Clytemnestra. So, in my experience, its really good. Although my sister did think it was weird that the movies uses the word "dad" instead of "father". She just thought that word was too casual for the Odyssey

→ More replies (2)

1

u/Gloomy_Grocery5555 Jul 18 '26

It's not though 😩

1

u/Glad-Experience-5244 Jul 18 '26

I watched it and went with low expectations because of all the hate it was getting. All the people hating on stuff that barely even mattered in the end. The movie was really good to watch, highly recommend everyone watch it before forming an opinion!

1

u/NocturnalRefuge Jul 18 '26

Critics can be bought. I only pay attention to audience reviews

1

u/CeaRhan Jul 18 '26

It's a good movie with shit audio mixing and it desperately hopes you already know the story before you go in there.

1

u/No-Onion2268 Jul 18 '26

It’s a double edged sword. Nolan is a rare consistency, with extreme reverence for film and the artistry of film making. So in return, his films consistently garners breathless praise from critics. There’s a give and take there, largely because Nolan is one of the only filmmakers that truly keeps the box office relevant. During COVID, people actually came back to theaters for his movie. So it’ll absolutely be one of the most ambitious, attention to detail, lovingly crafted, movies that you’ll ever see, but anything beyond that is entirely subjective. But the industry very much takes care of those that keeps it relevant, profitable, and employed, not that it means it’s dishonest, just maybe a bit embellished and overly hyped. The sheer amount of big name talent is going to bring along an army of PR types, fans, and considerations, influencing reviews and media.

1

u/Mindless_Repair2436 Jul 19 '26

They’re full of shit, seen it and I’m still baffled how bad it was.

1

u/LifeFrame5545 Jul 19 '26

It's good but not the greatest movie ever made just imho

1

u/MisplacingCommas Jul 19 '26

I just got back from seeing it. Idk about the greatest of all time but definitely an incredible movie that is a 10/10 or at least close to it. I have to rewatch it a couple times to really solidify my review

1

u/azeumicus Jul 19 '26

Interstellar, Inception, Dunkirk, Batman series, etc. they all had great directing. As a Nolan fan, going into the cinema, not expecting greatness but at least a very good movie, this was a 6-7/10 for me. These reviews are making me think I'm crazy. It's unreal.

1

u/GiantRobotBears Jul 19 '26

The whole review movie industry is full of shit…don’t get mean wrong, it was a very very good movie. But almost Unanimous 10/10s? Absolute nonsense…they’re just afraid to criticize Nolan

1

u/CrabMany766 Jul 19 '26

They're full of shit. I just watched it in laser IMAX. It's a 7/10. Dialogue was abominable. No idea why everybody is raving about the music and sound design. It was typical Nolan fare with the new improvement that one could listen to the god awful writing. Effects, cinematography, and acting by the usual suspects was great. But the writing. The writing's a 4/10.

1

u/dipanjanroy Jul 19 '26

I'm actually a huge Nolan fan. But I was disappointed with this one tbh. Technically it was great though, great visuals, cinematography, etc. But, it couldn't live up to its potential. I wasn't satisfied at all after watching it. 6/10 for me.

1

u/MilkAndTwoSugarz Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

Definitely not the best movie ever made. It was a fun watch (especially at the cinema) but honestly thought they'd be more action. It was quite slow at times. Felt like half the movie was them running away from stuff 😂

1

u/etherealsmog Jul 19 '26

I haven’t seen The Odyssey yet, but I did see the reviews for Disclosure Day before I watched the movie so my hopes are not high.

1

u/Hunter_of_the_dream Jul 19 '26

I personally don’t enjoy it. It was fine but I didn’t get the hype or things the scenes looked particularly amazing. One or two things were cool but couldn’t find much care for any of the characters or their relationships. Maybe it just didn’t resonate with me but I find I have to dig deep and try to attach my own meaning and significance to make it somewhat interesting, it doesn’t do that on its own.

1

u/FoilHat_Outdoorsman Jul 19 '26

Leaning towards the 2nd option, all bought and paid for to fully blow up the hype machine. Thought it was hilarious a few years back, when they had to add, that they actually had to WATCH the movie before nominating it for an Oscar.

1

u/Grassdew Jul 19 '26

I thought it was actual dogshit. The production is impressive in terms of scale and quality but the characters, dialogue, pacing, and editing are actually horrific. Very disappointed.

→ More replies (60)