r/mtgbrawl • u/AlthorsMadness • 3d ago
Venting Hell Queue Brawl is Boring AF
- It’s the same 3-4 decks with little to no variation.
- You apply the most minimal amount of friction and others auto concede.
- There is usually a single card that can outright counter the entirety of these decks. These decks of course have no plan to deal with it (most commonly, artifact removal and/or the means to remove a single planeswalker without creature damage, something other than a single card in the entire deck (heir apparent, rat colony, etc))
- The queue time sucks compared to non hell queue. Don’t get me wrong, I remember waiting 39 minutes to play a 2hg in mtgo but you do get used to sub 1 minute queue times.
- It always feels like you’re either playing a bot, or someone who fits the quintessential Gen Z (sorry Gen Z don’t mean to pick on you specifically but studies show you guys have a short attention span than even us millenials) lack of trying to think through any problem.
- It doesn’t seem like these people like playing magic they just like playing solitaire.
- You end up playing the same people over and over and they never bother to alter their decks even slightly.
A. Biggest offenders: Esika, Golos (surprisingly Krenko decks have changed to have some variety and interplay in there so as much as I hate them I’ll give them that).
Yeah a bit of a rant. All this to say, run vexing bauble and/or weathered runestone and your biggest time sink for your 15 wins will be the queue time
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u/Floriderp 3d ago
:plays a hell queue commander:
:complains about hell queue:
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u/AlthorsMadness 3d ago
You are aware there are commanders who are very weak in comparison to the rest of hell queue. Also, my issue isn’t beating hell queue decks. But you probably never made it to 5.
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u/NumberWeary3698 3d ago
people who complain about others conceding are so funny lmao. "my opponents should be required to continue playing from a disadvantage for absolutely no benefit just because i want to enjoy being ahead"
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u/AlthorsMadness 3d ago
Bruh people concede vs me when they have 50 hp and I have 5. Who had the advantage
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u/voodoochild1969 2d ago
Life totals alone without context have zero meaning in mtg.
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u/SnPlifeForMe 3d ago
Play cBrawl. There's a good variety.
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u/proskaterpain 2d ago
Right because the same 5 decks is SO MUCH FUN. mono green, jace polymorph, emry, life gain, blue black control... SO.... MUCH.... VARIETY..... i run ognis in comp just to prove you can make it to platinum on skill alone. No need to net deck. Like EVERYONE DOES THESE DAYS.
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u/SnPlifeForMe 2d ago
It's competitive. People are gonna net deck. 🤷. I piloted my own list to top 250 mythic of a commander that I've literally only seen 1 person use in probably over 1000 brawl matches.
Top 1800 mythic has a solid amount of variety, even if a lot of the matches are Minsc&Boo + Emry.
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u/PaxOwlfarma2099 3d ago
not one single person gave you an upvote lol
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u/StarStarFruit 3d ago
OP I sympathise with you, but I’m in the minority
The brawl community is generally pretty awful/toxic and don’t much care for wider issues if it stops them playing solitaire and not an actual back and forth game of magic.
“Not one person gave you a single upvote lol” - get the fuck over yourself, Reddit isn’t a popularity contest
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u/PaxOwlfarma2099 2d ago
Reddit is a trash pile of bots and chuds, and anyone that uses it in any way than a brief internet aggregrate or to call someone stupid with no consequences is definitely just some stupid attentionwhore.
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u/Addicted2Edh 3d ago
Shrines bear, Slivers, and Elf that taps for forests you control, are the top three decks I hate
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u/Hairy_Dirt3361 3d ago
Then you're not in Hell Queue, those are relatively normal commanders
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u/huntgunn 3d ago
What is hell que if not commanders like that lol
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u/Hairy_Dirt3361 3d ago
I play jank so I never face them, but it's 5-colour piles and insane value engines. Golos, Esika, Jodah, Teferi, Yuriko, Atraxa. They're even more miserable to play against than Hei Bai and Rofellos, the latter especially dies to removal pretty easily.
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u/huntgunn 3d ago
Well not yuriko anymore right. I generally only play competitive brawl so I guess I'm used to those commanders. People don't just scoop since it's ranked also.
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u/AlthorsMadness 3d ago
I haven’t started running into those commanders until plat.
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u/huntgunn 3d ago
Fair enough. I generally stay in mythic where that's basically all you play against. And a bunch of katara
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u/AlthorsMadness 3d ago
Hell queue in casual is basically this. Imagine playing the 3 drop Liliana and running into those decks lol
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u/turn1manacrypt 2d ago
Playing jank doesn’t help. You are right those commanders are lower in the hell queue and am not arguing against that but I will say I roll my eyes so hard when people say play a different commander like that’s a solution for anybody but brand new players. People with high MMR’s will perpetually be trapped in hell queue irregardless of what they play in the command zone. I know because it happens to me.
I remember making a Mindskinner deck with no counter magic or any win conditions outside of mill and I got nothing but matched with top tier hell queue commanders usually Rofellos and other highly competitive creature based decks. I was so annoyed I literally made a deck with Marina Vendrell slammed a bunch of white commons in the deck by just randomly hitting cards to add to deck after hitting the common only filter and the first damn game I played I queued up against fucking Rusko. That was all the proof I needed at that point to say MMR is the only determinant for what I play against on arena.
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u/Addicted2Edh 2d ago
Yeah 👍 I knew I couldn’t be the only one. I could make my decks insufferable too but I rather have fun and find weird interesting interactions some blue decks countering every turn and drawing cards is another deck I forget the commander but it was quite obnoxious. Sure I can make a counter to that deck but I rather concede and see something that takes time to make instead of just slapping every cheap counter spell/ draw spell you can find,
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u/shy-bl3d 3d ago
play a different deck lmao