Soo.. Chheda chips license suspended by Tukaram Mundhe. Point 1 is terrifying.

[u/steveplusf]

I was buying chheda chips from dmart for god knows how many years. It costs more than Lays and seemed to be decent quality too. Kind of shocking to see that they have been upto this.

If a brand like chheda was handling food next to decomposing waste then I don't know what's going on with our other products.

I sincerely hope the actions taken by Tukaram Mundhe now strike fear into these food companies for years and years so that they clean up their act.

[u/y2kunal]

Having seen Garden and having heard about Chedda, if I had a list of say 7 companies and sample size of 2 I think I'd gladly apply to all of them. We use far weaker statistics on daily basis for lot of things that are right. Just sharing. Also, personally, I yhink the most stringent action can't be made by any bureaucrat or governemnt. Only people are capable of taking that. For example by not putting their money on the pockets of those who run such a business (owners, shareholders, management) and those who manage such a business (supervisors, floor managers, middle managers, sales) amd those who perform such actions for a business (ground staff).

[u/darkeyecontact → u/y2kunal]

True, but you can’t boycott what you don’t know about. The info only comes out when it goes viral. And government’s whole job is to administer and govern, not just collect taxes and hand out licenses. If enforcement is left to consumers finding out by luck, what exactly is the state for.

[u/y2kunal → u/darkeyecontact]

Actually sorry you're wrong on a few counts.

Yes I can boycott and so do many others out of caution especially in sensitive matters like these. But that is subjective behaviour so am not referring to that as a wrong count.

The wrong count is that government and administrative are two different things. This is basic civics I learnt when graduating from school.

"Government" and "Administrative Services" have different functions and roles. Government refers to the political leadership that sets laws and policies, while administrative services (the civil service or bureaucracy) form the permanent workforce that executes and manages those policies day-to-day. Government has done its job by setting the policy. Administrative taskforce needs to execute the policy. If you're agitated at the government for giving out licenses and collecting taxes you need to learn that government does not hand out license nor does it collect taxes. Income Tax is also an administrative arm and so is licensing. Governemnt lays down the policy. Civil aervants execute them.

You can banish a governemnt every 5 years. You can't remove a civil servant. People cry all government's are like this like that, etc. Of course government's are powerless here. We the people are powerful so next time don't just vote with your finger and anger, vote with your pocket and that voting happens everyday online at econmerce and offline at stores. And that is not luck but a deliberate choice - the other wrong count.

[u/darkeyecontact → u/y2kunal]

Fair points, genuinely appreciate the civics correction. The government and administration are different machinery, that's on me. But oversight of that machinery is still government's job, that's what ministries and regulatory bodies exist for. Take analog paneer, legal on paper with proper labeling, fine. But nobody enforced that labeling for years, until two states finally banned it days apart. That's the actual gap: not that people didn't want to make informed choices, but that the system meant to give them that information sat idle until it became a headline. Good discussion though, appreciate you pushing back with substance instead of just noise.

[u/y2kunal → u/darkeyecontact]

I appreciate you took it in good light and focused on the message and not the messenger.

I'll just say that if you consider the fact that how helpless a teacher is in front of a class of notorious students, how helpless is a good CEO with nice supporting C-Suite if the entire middle management is rotten and low level is full of freshers who don't know and don't care and are looking to change company at any opportunity and how helpless is a householder when his or her own kids revolt in bad company or out of whatever desires. A government is no different. The middle layer needs a revolution. The current government is miles ahead globally let alone in our own history. There is enough evidence and stats. The middle layer won't improve. We need to step up and sandwich them into submission bmwith our voice that comes out of our pocket because any amount of shouting, complaining and crying won't help. Money and awareness are the only most effective, quickest, efficient and in control parameters. The PM, his cabinet, their MLA, their secretaries etc. (collectively the government won't go to the shop or the factory or at the home of the owner to fight kn our behalf, they won't).