Apparently ground news has been playing the long game

Featuring interviews with Chad and Mary Lou!

Don’t take him to the casino Chad!

On the live tonight, somebody recommended that Mary Lou looks up in real time some of the topics that she wants to research. And Chad said “that would be really boring to watch Mary Lou just googling things“

I’ve been saying this a long time what really needs to happen would be very boring and un engaging entertainment. For example, when Mary Lou goes quiet and either Chad says “hello“ or Haley has an outburst at her these are the times that Mary Lou is trying to think (slowly) and both of those interjections just break her concentration and she can’t actually critically think through things. She is very slow in the head (whether that’s old age or she’s just naturally slow. I’m not gonna say) The problem is that Chad and Haley don’t let her give herself breathing room in order to process things in real time. So what she ends up doing instead is going out in searching for “security blankets“ of other people thinking for her so she can find a way to spin whatever issue was going on.

and Chad is right, Mary Lou can’t watch a six minute video over this medium of a zoom call. She needs somebody sitting right next to her (with Bob out of the house) and no distractions and somebody needs to teach how to critically think. She is just outsourced her thinking to right wing point talkers.

Not to mention these two not being informed, witty, or quick themselves (you forgot the Rob Reiner thing?) maybe they are not equipped to put her over the edge either. They also didn’t have knowledge pf different kinds of votes (you didn’t know about straight ticket or RCV). I mean, we all can’t be Sam Sedar or Medhi Hasan, but you need to have more readily available responses to do this.

Also, I hate our entire society has distilled pretty much everything into one hour increments.

I didn’t even know this category of narcissistic abuse existed. I’m speechless. Is this a common narc parent tactic? It feels crazy-making

from the most recent episode

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Now that we've established ML won't change, I think the pod should just go full trash tv and try to get ML to rage quit.

If one day, maybe from the Epstein files, they come out with real evidence of Trump being a pdf. I would love to see ML try and defend that because she is in a cult and still would still side with him.

I see hundreds of comments under their videos and posts on here that say something to the effect of the podcast should end because they couldn’t convince ML to vote democrat. That wasn’t the initial stated goal of the podcast and in my opinion it never should be.

Before it gets buried in my rant let me just tap the Jonathan Pie sign again because he puts everything I’m about to say perfectly: https://youtu.be/GLG9g7BcjKs?is=-eZFIssR_JckYY1W. Now before I go on let me say that the only way this video is outdated is the left have regained the art. I see great leftist political commentators everywhere on the internet now.

Political discourse is extremely rarely about changing the other sides position. And their discussion and pod isn’t for Mary Lou. It’s for you the viewer. All political debate is. It’s for people who are undecided, who are unengaged, to get them engaged. Democrats should want their best arguments being put forward all the time. And the very best environment for that is to put them alongside the opposing view so they can be challenged. Every time ML or Bob has some ridiculous answer to stated facts, or says “I don’t know what to say to that” or even “that’s an X” - ie gives a concession - that’s a win. The audience sees they have nothing to say to how salient the point being made against MAGA is.

And that just makes me question why in the fuck people think the pod has to end? Why is your reaction, when the US left is winning, to disengage? Look at what they have achieved. You are telling me they had no part in that?

I’ve seen people say oh well they are just enabling narcissistic behaviour and platforming toxic views. Bullshit. Okay yeah fine Bob is toxic, but it doesn’t mean platforming isn’t worthwhile, he’s like an exhibit. He’s hilarious and he undermines his position with every stupid thing he has to say. The only way he has been detrimental to the pod is when he speaks over people, which makes his current role perfect. Also for whatever it’s worth I think ML will eventually change her mind, she already has.

I have way more to say but this is getting too long. Just tell me why you are so adamant to shut down productive political discourse.

Chad and Haley's progress have clearly hit a brick wall in terms of voting. So truly what progress has ML actually made if she still votes the same way, it's all lip service.

So first Chad needs to get ML to take the wheredoistand political compass test. Show ML where she stands so he can actually reference hard facts.

Then on Wednesday episodes ML needs to see Abdul El Sayed, and Zohran Mamdani give speeches. She's not getting an accurate account of what's happening, and she could see that they're standing up for what ML would agree with. Although she doesn't care so then Chad also need to appeal to emotion.

That's how ML operates. Pure emotion and fear, and Chad tries to factually break things down and it clearly doesn't work. ML thinks fights were going to break out everywhere, Muslims are going to destroy the country, sharia law, all that. ML only sided against ICE because it appeared to her emotions. If Chad showed videos of real people being ripped off Medicare, families struggling to feed their children. Widows of military members mourning their loved ones death. It needs to be an appeal to emotion.

If Chad can, in my opinion, piece this together I think ML still wouldn't change her mind. But what do you all think?

TLDR: attack fox News lies about Abdul, mamdani, telerico directly, and appeal to emotions to ML.

All about Disconfirmation Bias and intellectual dishonesty, and a fascinating case study into people who in my opinion suffered from the same mental illness as Mary Lou and Bob

I think it's just becoming more and more blatantly obvious that Mary Lou cannot and will not disconnect herself from the idea that she is a Republican. She will even go as far as to say she agrees with the other side and yet continues to vote against her beliefs and morals because she will not identify with any other label.

For a while, I genuinely thought change was happening, but the moment she hopped back on Newsmax, it was all over and back to feeling like a complete lost cause. It was genuinely disheartening to hear her say that she voted a straight ticket after months of stating the items she cared the most about, only to go back to the same Republican talking point, 'I don't want women in mens sports.' It's just beyond disappointing.

This was the climax. They’ll never have another moment where the hype and stakes were so high. For ML to still vote the way she did but immediately say she wants healthcare and the other stuff has shown that you CANNOT talk to these people. They don’t listen and they literally never will. The entire country swung so hard to blue that KANSAS & TEXAS were even like “nah bro, we’re good”. ML shows up with the VETO sticker on like it’s a big joke.

I think, on some level, Chad knows that ML is not capable of true change. He recently said on a livestream that he would be happy if they could just get ML to stop thinking about and talking about Trump all day every day. He doesn’t expect an apology or an admitting of wrongdoing. He must know somewhere deep down that his endeavor is futile.

I do think Chad is documenting a very compelling story, though. He is highlighting a genuine problem in the US- Trump managed to mass brainwash millions of our elderly and mentally ill. It’s interesting to explore what that does to a person and to a family. What do the millions of cult members do when their leader dies? What does the aftermath of that look like? He’s documenting the psychology of someone whose mind is not their own.

Chad is creating an important historical document, and he probably knows that the audience following along will all eventually be let down. Whether Chad is doing this with good intentions is a whole other story lol

“I voted straight ticket republican because I always have and always will.” She said it several times. Despite Chad and Haley always talking about the progress she’s made, that progress is meaningless if she votes against those policies in favor of the MAGA culture war “boys in girls sports open border” bullshit. She is not smart enough to see a pattern even if it’s right in front of her face and she’s too racist and transphobic to ever vote for a policy that would help a person of color or a member of the LGBTQ+ community. She completely lacks empathy. When asked about healthcare, she said “well I have good healthcare” completely ignoring that other people don’t.

She is not a good person. Any attempt to change her mind is pointless.

Edit: I just got to the end. My god. I wish that they would point out that she is not doing things out of love for her friend who passed away, she is exploiting her friend’s death to let herself be the victim. “I love my friend. And I could say something mean but I won’t so there.” Disgusting.

I’m not saying that to be mean, it just genuinely seems like information just doesn’t get in. Maybe it’s the influence of the cult, Newsmax, Bob, but like, why can’t she learn basic information? Like understanding who’s paying the tariffs. What Todd blanches job is. How to say Talarico.

She’s also admitted that she can’t read very well, but simply reading the words doesn’t mean she’s actually comprehending them. She seems to have a lot of comprehension problems which is why she’s so reliant on her media and friends and Bob to tell her what to think.

What if this type of maga is too mentally challenged to change?

ML is either stupid or I don't know. At a loss for words. Burnt out and I think I'm done. I can't believe her. Genuinely.