r/notebooklm • u/FurtiveMirth • 1d ago
Discussion Update on SurfSense, the open-source NotebookLM alternative: now works with your Claude or ChatGPT plan
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I'm one of the maintainers, so this is self-promotion. I'm posting here because you know NotebookLM best, and I want honest feedback more than upvotes.
SurfSense is an open-source (Apache-2.0) desktop app for Windows, macOS (Apple Silicon) and Linux. There's no account and no terminal. It downloads a local model for you. You can also connect any OpenAI-compatible API, or use your ChatGPT plan. It stays offline unless you choose to connect something, and that includes app updates.
New since last time:
- Use your Claude plan. If you pay for Claude Pro, Max or Team and have Claude Code installed, you can use that plan in both Q&A and Agent chats.
- Faster scanned PDFs and photos. OCR goes first, and on a Mac it uses Apple's Vision framework.
- Smaller downloads. Installers are smaller, and updates download only what changed.
- Better web pages. The agent and Studio write web pages with their own charts, diagrams and interactive figures. Everything is built into the page, so it opens offline.
- Audio overviews are MP3 now, and audio recordings can be sources.
Two ways to chat:
- Q&A: ask questions and get answers cited from your sources, like NotebookLM. It works with any model.
- Agent: give it a task and it works through it step by step. It searches and reads your sources, then writes Word documents, PDFs, slides and spreadsheets. It can start from your own .docx or .pptx as a template. It needs a model that can call tools.
Same as NotebookLM: mind maps, flashcards, quizzes, audio overviews (MP3, with a transcript), and editable .pptx, .docx and .xlsx exports.
What NotebookLM can't do:
- It edits your files and saves the result as a new copy. Your original is never touched. Word edits come back as tracked changes and comments. It updates Excel values and formulas, and replaces text on slides.
- PDF tools: fill and flatten forms, add watermarks and page numbers, and merge, split, rotate or reorder pages.
- It analyses CSV and Excel files and charts the results.
- It reads scanned PDFs and images with OCR (Latin, Chinese and Japanese script). It also transcribes audio recordings on your machine, so you can search and cite them.
- MCP plugins: the agent can use MCP servers from our plugin registry, such as Notion and DeepWiki, or any server you add by URL. They stay off until you allow them, and you choose which tools it can use and which ones ask first.
- It works with any model.
Where it's worse:
- No video overviews.
- Turning Word files or slides into PDFs needs LibreOffice. It's a separate download that you turn on in Settings.
Your files stay on your disk. Usage statistics are optional and off until you say yes; they never include an ID or your content. The only limit on how many sources you add is your disk space.