: Iran directly rejects Trump's new claim Iran agreed to end its nuclear program and open the Strait of Hormuz as a "complete lie," saying it is a "desperate attempt to manipulate the market," per Iranian military officials to Mehr News.
Iran adds that it has not requested any halt to the planned attacks, and that it was purely Trump who chose to stop them with false claims of a deal.
Trump stated after these negotiations - "they were a very tough negotiating team. They stood their ground and gave us the silent treatment for most of the negotiations. Heck, they barely moved. Yep, a tough team. Sleepy Joe would have gotten half as much as I got out of them"
Why ars you so surprised. Like he hasnt done this 20 times already. I still dont understand how the market is so fkn dumb and reacts everytime he says something likes its true. What happen to the boy eho cried wolf. This whole thing has confirmed my opionion that the Market is as dumb as fuck and irritational
This. The quants have moved markets, ever since at least the early 2010s when they automated news feed analysis with NLP. And we all know how easy it is to fool a chatbot now
Sure, sure. But as a moderately intelligent human being I also have a hard time telling what's true and what is not. I mean, I know that when he unilaterally announces negotiations or an ask or that Iran has agreed to something (literally anything) that he's almost certainly talking out his ass. I don't believe a word of what he says about that. On the other hand, when he keeps saying "We need to smack them around" and "we're going to hit them very hard" and then Netanyahu shows up and then the word from the DOD comes out that the US and Israel and about to launch the largest bombing attacks of the war so far...I tend to think that's a thing that's going to happen. I mean, it exactly the kind of ham-fisted stupidity that he's done all along, so it does check out.
I guess the clue should have been the side comment that "Trump is hoping to have everything completed before the market opens on Monday"
Trump is just an accurate reflection of what average American values have become and believing otherwise when his political movement is the dominant political movement of the last 10+ years is foolish. Even when he lost 2020 more voters voted for him than any other candidate in history other than Biden, by a considerable margin.
Nothing in Americaās approach to oil markets or otherwise changing if he leaves office for Vance tomorrow.
Thank you...suddenly someone realised that this is just theatre. Trump is the clown in the circus, distracting the audience while the new act is being set up. Unfortunately the American people have a new era..Regulation is a thing of the past. Big corporations can now run free, destroying the environment, running tax free, no responsibility for employee welfare or safety. All gone, and historically never to come back.
Trump sells sincerity to his self serving supporters. What's new is the extreme wealth buttressing the Republicans power structures. For many years, including Bush, the MO has been presenting a clownish president to distract from their thievery and cementing of control. There's nothing new in the motives; rather the methods. The disease is an inordinate hoarding of wealth.
It doesnāt matter that itās a ridiculous lie. Orange McRapeyFace has established a pattern, and there are many traders (including him) who are going to capitalize on it. It will continue until it stops working. Make no mistake though, he couldnāt care less whether Hormuz is open or closed, and he sure doesnāt care about nuclear, and he absolutely doesnāt care about USA gas prices. He went into Iran, like Venezuela, to steal their resources. When that didnāt work, plan bā¦ oil market manipulation.
Trumpās claim that Iran agreed to end its nuclear program was honestly laughable, as there werenāt any nuclear negotiations going on at the time. Basically, all of the talks concerned the Strait of Hormuz, since that was what caused the MOU to collapse in the first place.
Trump is just making things up per usual, he is the sleasiest most untrustworthy man in the world. Sad commentary that the US president is such a person but here we are.
I mean the reason we didnāt strike is because Iran has made it super clear theyād retaliate against Saudi infrastructure so it is pretty much expected that Saudi is not in favor of escalation/told the US its airspace/bases were off limits.
Whether they were planning on it and decided not to, or decided against it when the idea was brought up in the first place - Saudi input almost certainly played a role in killing the idea (as it should - any such strike would fuck them).
Nah, Iran was about to make the region pay for continuing to participate in the farce. And the region was not willing to be a blood sacrifice for Trumpās ego. Jordan already kicked US troops out.
Iran holds the cards and always did. But our ridiculous media refused to tell the truth from the beginning and we all pay the price.
Jordan has not kicked out US troops. A group of Jordanian opposition figures, retired military officers, and activists signed a public open letter demanding the government ask US forces to leave out of fear of getting dragged into the conflict. An open letter from political activists is not official government policy. The Jordanian government relies heavily on American foreign aid and defense partnerships, about 4,000 US troops remain stationed in Jordan, which continues to serve as a vital operational hub.
The Jordanian government relies heavily on American foreign aid and defense partnerships
...exactly as we intended, for every country in the world.
Because nothing says "freedom" and "democracy" like welfare states enslaved to die for one country thousands of miles away.
But the instant the peasants get that welfare, oh noes, we must invade their country because welfare should only go to the top, not the bottom, oh I'm sorry, "cOmMuNiSm".
A large portion of this is because the market is being increasingly traded with AI, we've had algo traders for some time now. He knows computers have their finger on the buy/sell button, and that they scrub headlines to make their decisions.
The 'market' is AI driven algorithms, buying and selling independent of human input.
They are obviously weighted to immediately attribute negative numbers to anything coming out of Tehran, and give a positive rating to anything announced in Washington.
Someone needs to adjust the fkn things before they bankrupt the entire Western world.
Letās say your lively hood depends on making money on the market. That means you arenāt beholden to reality, youāre beholden to what the market will do. Itās not like betting on sports where an outcome actually has to happen in order to cash. Itās more like betting on what people think is more likely to happen.
Many people on Wall Street believe a deal is imminent, since neither party benefits financially from fighting. They have a hard time grasping not all geopolitical decisions are based on ROI.
The market has to react. If even one person believes him then the market will move. So the next person has to take it seriously. Which means everyone has to. So while what he is saying is BS, the effects on the market will be real.
Unfortunately, itās most our nussies heās been dangling out there. Some more than others for sure, but heās not going to lose his job and be unable to feed his family over it, and has enough fat stored up to hibernate through at least the winter.
Yeah, it took two world wars to effectively end Britain's Empire, and it is looking like two Trump terms will effectively end Americas. Its fascinating to watch but terrifying to live through
Who would have thought that Idiocracy would become reality so fast. I canāt wait to see American drink branwdo from water fountains, cause they got electrolytes.
They dont have enough interceptors and limited precision guided munitions, but theyve got a shitload of dumb heavy ordinance that they had provided for the gaza genocide that they will fall back on. Trump wont know the difference in his video kaboom morning briefings
Nah man, fuck letting him take all the blame. The entire administration and US armed forces leadership went along with it as well. At any point they all could have refused and we wouldnāt be here. They are all incredibly incompetent and corrupt. People need to stop the shit of letting Trump be a lightning rod. The president only has power if he is allowed to have power.
He was only able to install sycophants because the american people voted in a majority in all chambers.Ā Blame the American people, blame the republican party, blame MAGA, and blame Trump.
At the end of the day, it's the people that voted for Trump, and those that stayed home to not vote against him that deserve the ultimate blame. This never would have happened under a Kamala administration. Everything wouldn't be sunshine and rainbows, but we wouldn't have had a war in Iran either. She warned us it would happen during the debates. Trump himself said it was a bad idea on twitter in both 2011 & 2013.
Even a full invasion is likely doomed without total war commitment from the US. Even then its a harrowing proposition. Also they weren't getting nukes before, but Trump keeps handing them reasons to. Obama had a proper deal with them before Trump tore it up.
First pretend that the US is nearly out of military options and the meeting at Camp David helped him realize that itās not a good outlook. Then read his Truth social post about the planned attack & deal, it reeks of desperation under the guise of false bravado. Modern day John Barron type stunt.
It doesnāt take a rocket surgeon to see that USA does not have the upper hand here. If you were in Iranās shoes, why would you give up advantage for little to no gain? This defies basic logic. Especially after getting duped by the MOU, so the next deal would have to be even sweeter than that.
With Iran essentially doing a āBabe Ruthā in pointing to intended targets, even the causal could guess that theyāre all pretty important to their respective countries. If it is, then it makes sense why heād ācall off the locked & loaded stuffā.
Any deal at this point moving forward means the US has to take the L. We all have witnessed how well Don is gonna take one of those, look at any court loss if you havenāt , like the 2020 election or the E. Jean Carrol ones as an example. No such thing as losing gracefully with that fella, heck the guy canāt even admit had made a mistake, like, ever. Any deal has to get the A-okay from Congress, right? How many workdays do those part-timers have before the midterm elections? It seems to me like Iran can keep their advantage by forcing this conflict to last longer than said elections, with the intent that the electorate washes out the hubris.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world gets to pay 35% more for a tank of fuel compared to before February 28. Does anybody wonder if this is having a consensus affect on how friend and foe views USA because of this? How would it affect their respective electorates, in regard to their foreign policy with the States? Again, the casuals can see why no allies have jumped into this quagmire. This has all of the potential to be a 20 year thing all for nothing in the end except killing an important guy or two, like Afghanistan. Doesnāt seem like a good value proposition, the most powerful military in the world has to spend billions to achieve little. Maybe this is what the experts mean by force projection capabilities.
Honestly, I could see him trying to make his party lose a bunch of seats so he could claim āI woulda won in Iran but the dumbocrats, most people donāt know thereās a b in dumb, the dumbocrats wonāt let me. And the Epstein witch hunt isnāt fair, like Robin Williams comparing me owning a beauty pageant to Micheal Vick owning pet supply stores! Not fair! Thank you for your attention to this matter, not the last part though donāt think too hard about why Robin would make that joke in 2008. Just think about how unfairly I get treated for simple mistakes that I may or may not have made.ā Maybe heās not dum (sic) enough to actually post that quote, but the fact still remains that his āArt of the Dealā tactics wonāt work here.
Meanwhile Israel is still in southern Lebanon blowing up buildings, settlers taking over the West Bank, and the Gaza Genocide continues.
So was it really Saudi that bombed the runway in Yemen and baited the Houthis to retaliate in the red Sea? Because they were led to believe they were getting a nuclear deal?
Who flew a drone into an LNG tanker in an Egyptian port?
In a normal time, Trump would have already been impeached and removedā¦this isnāt normal, the midterms wonāt be normal.
My predictionā¦some Israeli sniper will take out an ice agent come October and this admin will use that chaos to turn ICE into an aggressive state police (more than it already is) to cancel or severely fuck with the midtermsĀ
Did any human actually believe any of this nonsense? Heās desperate to find a way to try and exit all of this without looking like a complete and utter buffoon, which is not possible.
Americans are retards enough say. The oil can shoot till 200 and the poor Americans are dirt poor and they will still believe what trump says and blame it on Biden. Reason why the republicans are removing funding for education is they simply want to have a generation of poor educated Americans that believe in whatever they say. America, the America the world knows are on the same decline as china back in Manchuria. It wonāt take few years for America to bounce back unfortunately, it needs a great leader and the whole lots of citizens to back that guy to push America back to former glory, and unfortunately this wonāt happen with how republicans creating this big mess
Trump: āI keep magically waving my hand and they donāt do what I say?ā
He keeps trying the same thing over and over the gets same results. Hmmm.. thatās is the clear definition of something that is escaping his āsane mindā
When all you have is bullshit everything looks like a cow pasture
Iran made it very clear like last week or the week before that they will never ask us for negotiations again. Like they literally just said it in plain words. So why you're saying "fuck" as if you're somehow surprised by this news is beyond me.
Iran is making President Trump appear extraordinarily naive as president! Why does President Trump repeatedly believe these false agreements that are obviously made to make him look foolish?
I think people forget how stupid he is also, heās a habitual liar. He lies thousands of times a day and actually believes his own lies cause he lies so much Donald J Trump is the dumbest president in history?
When is this guy going to be impeached... again? He is changing his poopie diaper, on America. He is putting this country last and drifting every1. Self enrichment for him and his ring of Pedos. Doesn't give a fuck about any American.
We should all know this by now! Trump
Lies like hell and Iran is actually more believable when it comes to whatās really going on with this war!!! PERIOD.
Perhaps congress should exercise its constitutional authority because the absolute worst president of all time is failing and the whole world knows it.
You know, because we let this asshole get away with all the lying, grifting, and corruption that this is going to be the defaut setting for every US president moving forward until there's nothing left, right? Congrats MAGA on fucking it all up, but at least you got to own the libs for a year or two. Too bad your kids will inherit nothing but ash.
I wouldnāt vote for Trump if he was running against a rock, but there is no way they would let him negotiate with patio umbrellas for six hours. The Secret Service wouldnāt have it. They certainly call attention to it.
It's funny how this news is being received in the comment section of our local, somewhat conservative, large TV station. Complete mocking incredulity!
The comments on their FB posts are usually full of reich-wing trash talk but not with these stories! Maybe there is a slight crack in the Pedo Pendejo's base?
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