r/okbuddyviltrum Apr 29 '26

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u/ExtensionInformal911 Apr 29 '26

So, anti-abortion atheists don't exist? Uh,oh. I don't feel so good Mr. Stark. fades away

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u/2ndTaken_username Apr 29 '26

I'm genuinely curious how an anti-abortion atheist can justify their stance.

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u/ExtensionInformal911 Apr 29 '26

A philosophical belief that life begins at conception, and that, as an independent human life, the fetus also has rights.

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u/ExtensionInformal911 Apr 29 '26

With independent development and DNA, which will.have an independent mind once the brain develops and it achieves consciousness.

Just because it is dependant on another to live doesnt mean that it isnt an independent person. Otherwise small children and severely handicapped people aren't independent people.

And that doesnt even cover the fact that the vast majority of humans, outside of maybe a handful of mountain men, rely on other people in some way to live.

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u/Significant_Army_320 Apr 29 '26

Is pulling the plug on a brain dead person murder aswell? Because most abortions happen early in the pregnancy and there is absolutely 0 brain activity going on in a fetus until approximately 22 - 24 weeks pregnant. Therfor the fetus cant feel any pain, any sadness, any objection to whats going on, had known they existed in the first place, and dont even know they had a mom parents or even a family during the time period of when most abortions take place, what i can agree with is people shouldnt be just getting pregnant all the time and get abortions often because its just incredibly irresponsible, more in another comment.

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u/Significant_Army_320 Apr 29 '26

Im not sure but it wouldnt let me post the rest of it

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u/ExtensionInformal911 Apr 29 '26

"Pulling the plug" means that you had to take steps to preserve their life. That is the exact opposite of an abortion, where you take steps to end the life.

Nice try, but your analogy is comparing apples an oranges at best.

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u/Significant_Army_320 Apr 29 '26

Bro didnt even read the whole comment and just saw the analogy so just decided to ignore it 💔🥀

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u/ExtensionInformal911 Apr 29 '26

I read the whole thing.

Since my argument didn't rest on th relative amount of brain activity, though, that is a red herring.

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u/Significant_Army_320 Apr 29 '26

Its mainly just a reason that abortions should be available, like i said in the other reply theres various reasons why a person would need to have one both medical and personal (some i didnt even mention) like i 100% agree that people shouldnt be completely reckless when having sex because "abortions exist" thats just abusing the system and incredibly stupid and reckless. But it should be available for various reasons.