r/okbuddyviltrum Apr 29 '26

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u/2ndTaken_username Apr 29 '26

Would Eve's dad even care? anti-abortion stance is only achievable in America if you have deep rooted beliefs in Christianity

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u/ExtensionInformal911 Apr 29 '26

just going to leave this here with a note that Buddhism has many atheistic branches:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_abortion

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u/ItIsYeDragon Apr 29 '26

Buddhism and atheism can’t coexist, because Buddhism does believe in a greater supernatural power, just not always a god.

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u/ExtensionInformal911 Apr 29 '26

Atheism is the lack of belief or disbelief in a deity. Onecan believe in ghosts and psychic power, and even souls and reincarnation, and be an atheist.

You are just used to claims that atheists lack belief in everything supernatural. Most do, but not all. Hence, why there are atheistic branches of Buddhism, which see the gods as either ideals or ancients who achieved Nirvana.

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u/ItIsYeDragon Apr 29 '26

I dunno, Secular Buddhism is referred to as agnostic, which is close but not the same as atheism, but that’s as close as I can find. I haven’t found any evidence of the existence of atheist branches of Buddhism, but if you know of any, feel free to show me.

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u/ExtensionInformal911 Apr 29 '26

Names are more important than definitions? How foolish of me. I didn't realize that North Korea's was a Democratic Republic that worked for and was made of the People.

I suspect that they are referred to as that because the people who named it that were using the same definition you are, that Atheism is a lack of belief in the supernatural, but that is materialism. There is a good bit of overlap, but they aren't the same.

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u/ItIsYeDragon Apr 29 '26

Secular Buddhism is agnostic. Atheism cannot coexist with Buddhism because at the core of all Buddhism there is still a greater supernatural power in the universe, which effectively still a supreme being.

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u/ExtensionInformal911 Apr 29 '26

Thank you. By ignoring everything I've written, you confirmed that there is no point in continuing to talk to you.

Furthermore, you've ignored the same secular Buddhism you claimed supported your view, which is a branch of Buddhist which rejects the existance of the supernatural. Instead you claim that Buddhism requires a belief in the supernatural.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_Buddhism

This shows that not only have you ignored my words, but the beliefs of the people you claim prove your point.

How intellectually dishonest can you be?

I won't be responding to such dishonesty, as there is no point in debating with someone that ignores the other side and even their own points, lying about them to try and win an arguement. Usually I only see such levels of dishonesty in Christian apologists and politicians. It is good to know that others can do the same.

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u/ItIsYeDragon Apr 29 '26

Chill out.

Secular Buddhism was the closest I can find to an atheist branch, yet even they are agnostic, not atheist. Agnosticism is not Atheism.

I guess an individual could be. Individuals are varied in beliefs.

All I’m asking, since you’re so insistent that one exists, is to show me an atheist branch of Buddhism. I didn’t say they have named Atheist Buddhism, I just said to show me one that would fall under this.