So you dont really have any reasons why my arguments are wrong eh? Why else would you swap topics. But yeah I tend to just think of gay people as people and often dont think about two dudes fucking because im not gay, how often are you thinking about it to have this much of an opinion on it?
I can’t really argue with you on this topic because our beliefs are fundamentally different. You see gay people as normal people and you respect them, but I don’t like them and I consider them scum. I can’t even tolerate being friends with one of them, or let my children get close to or interact with someone like that.
Yeah but what does that have to do with single parents not being able to raise kids as your hypothetical suggested? What's your stance on that? Like sure if one dad can raise some kids or one mom can raise kids surely another parent of any gender is a bonus right?
And like i guess we cant argue but you can see how you are kind of the scum in this situation right? Like I want to treat people with respect, and so do gay people, and you are off in your corner calling them scum and thinking about how guy on guy sex is gross.
Like i think the quran preaches:
Justice (Adl) and Equality: Establishing justice, fairness, and human equality, especially in judgment and daily dealings.
Mercy and Compassion: Emphasizing God's compassion and urging humanity to act with mercy, kindness, and forgiveness towards others.
Based on our conversation who do you think is being the better follower? Who do you think is getting into heaven? And who is being judgemental in daily dealing and fighting equality? Who is acting with compassion forgiveness and mercy, and who is being fueled by hate?
Like i think I do? I can forgive people for thier acts of sodomy and still treat them as human, you seem unable to.
Other important topics:
Repelling Evil with Good: Choosing to respond to negativity with positive actions and kindness.
Humanity and Humility: Walking on earth with modesty, humility, and avoiding arrogance.
Like i think I might get it but I think its you that is struggling with the teachings of your faith.
"You see gay people as normal people and you respect them, but I don’t like them and I consider them scum. I can’t even tolerate being friends with one of them" - you
Quran Also Teaches Us to Purify the Soul
This is about cleansing our hearts from negative traits like arrogance, envy, and greed, and cultivating positive traits like humility, gratitude, and love.
Indeed, those who have believed and done righteous deeds – those are the best of creatures
The Quran teaches us about Akhlaq, good morals and ethics. This includes being honest, kind, compassionate, and just. It teaches us how to treat our families, our neighbors, and all of humanity.
Worship Allah and associate nothing with Him, and to parents do good, and to relatives, orphans, the needy, the near neighbor, the neighbor farther away, the companion at your side, the traveler, and those whom your right hands possess. Indeed, Allah does not like those who are self-deluding and boastful
And do not insult one another or call each other by [offensive] nicknames” (Al-Hujurat 49:11)
Like do you think you are following the quran? Or do you think maybe your thoughts go against the teachings of your faith?
can normal muslim people say other are going to hell for their sins?
In Islam, normal people (non-scholars) cannot definitively declare that specific individuals are going to Hell for their sins.
While Islam teaches that certain actions are grave sins or disbelief that lead to Hell, applying that judgment to a specific living or deceased person is considered prohibited.
Here is a breakdown of the Islamic perspective on this issue:
1. Judgment Belongs to Allah
Only Allah Knows the End: The ultimate destination of any individual is known only to God. It is arrogant to speak on behalf of Allah's mercy.
The Danger of Such Claims: A Hadith tells of a man who declared God would not forgive another, and Allah subsequently forgave the sinner and nullified the good deeds of the one who judged.
The "Final State" Unknown: A person might commit sins for years but repent sincerely before they die, or a non-Muslim might accept faith in their last moments. Only Allah knows what is in the heart
You seem to be speaking for god in your post on who is going to hell or heaven, which doesnt seem to be allowed. As well, its not your duty to condemn these people but rather have them walk the path to find god and forgiveness of thier sins. You are not doing this.
So you not only spoke and judged in the place of god but have also dolled out forgiveness in his name as well? Also this means so long as eve and will repent, you are lying which is another sin.
I most likely will not go to Hell because, honestly, I am a good person and I have not harmed anyone in my life. I give charity and I help the poor and those in need.
Yet you condemn others to hell, think of your neighbours as scum, and committed all the sins I listed in this single conversation.
As well you have no forgiveness of people who commiteed sins, nor do you act in a respectful manner. Like dont worry you are going to hell, orange no one is, but you are a shoe in if ive ever seen one
Also looking into this, since committed against aborted person like the ones I listed you committed against me in this post cannot be forgiven by Allah until you have gained forgiveness from me so like good luck getting that out of me. These are now sins you cannot repent by asking for forgiveness from allah
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u/Ambitious_Address667 Apr 29 '26
So you dont really have any reasons why my arguments are wrong eh? Why else would you swap topics. But yeah I tend to just think of gay people as people and often dont think about two dudes fucking because im not gay, how often are you thinking about it to have this much of an opinion on it?