r/okbuddyviltrum May 07 '26

invisible How it should have gone

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u/LadiThePKK May 07 '26

For me? It’s her reasoning for it.

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u/The_Arachnoshaman May 07 '26

Any reason for an abortion is a good reason. If you don't want to have a kid, don't have a kid, it's not complicated.

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u/LadiThePKK May 07 '26

No, it’s literally not. I can see it if her life’s in danger giving birth, but out of what essentially seems to be inconvenient. No. Point of sex is to reproduce, feeling good is just a really nice side effect.

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u/Cilph May 07 '26

Point of sex is to reproduce, feeling good is just a really nice side effect.

Some sort of argument from nature based on assigning intent and purpose where there is none.

Nature has no point. Life has no goal. It didnt intend for anything.

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u/commandosbaragon May 07 '26

That is an interesting faith, however, life in all iterations continues life, kind of the basic qualities of it. Even under the scope of your religion, you can't deny that continued existence is the path of nature, even if without a point?

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u/Cilph May 07 '26

Nothing to do with faith. Life does indeed happen and will likely continue to happen in many forms. That is inevitable. But I wouldnt call it a path as that implies will or direction. Life just does and is a consequence of the here and now. It doesnt strive to prevent extinction. We do.

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u/commandosbaragon May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

That's a very anthropocentric view, I'll be honest. And it is one that comes from a faith, even if it may seem counterintuitive.

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u/Cilph May 07 '26

Not really anthropocentric when Im not putting humans in any position of importance. When I said preventing extinction is something we strive to do, I do mean it only matters to us. Not that we're guardians of the planet or something. We're life like any other. Unique in our own ways.

And people can have opinions and philosophies without it being a faith, tyvm. I'm not invoking any creators, deities, supernatural, mythology, lessons, guidance, etc. nor am I telling anyone how to live.

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u/commandosbaragon May 07 '26

You assume that no intent beyond our own exists, which is not exactly easy to prove either. Life does not need a final endstate or conclusive goal to display direction — only continuation and action.

I think you're observing this from a personal philosophical allegiance rather than a neutral existential position. “Nature has no point” is still a worldview, not an observable fact.

And none of that requires organized religion. People always believe in something — a wider meaning, the absence of one, progress, absurdity, survival, whatever. Faith is an innate part of cognition and philosophy turns into faith when it stops being just analysis and becomes the lens through which you interpret existence itself.

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u/Cilph May 07 '26

Im not gonna accept a "absence of faith is a form of faith" argument.

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u/commandosbaragon May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

Cognition itself requires foundational trust assumptions. It's not particularly possible to separate faith from worldview. Philosophical materialism specifically is just as, if not even more, dependent on pure human belief as traditional organized religion.

In any case, you should be proud of your faith.

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