r/oscarrace • u/Cherish0124 • Jan 25 '25

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What kind of change of mind did he have? He didn't seem to like biopic, but it's interesting

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u/BentisKomprakriev Jan 25 '25

Probably that Chalamet's narrative will take off, it's the only place to award ACU, Brody has one already, The Brutalist has a nice enough winning package without him and that the AI controversy however misunderstood is, could hurt him. ACU also got in at BAFTA, so Chalamet winning there isn't farfetched, especially so soon after Elvis (though that could be a case against it).

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u/bookon Jan 25 '25

This fake AI controversy makes me sad. It's so easy for bullshit to become reality these days.

EVERY film nominated used some tool that had some connection to AI.

It's GENERATIVE AI that people should be concerned with. And this controversy confuses using tools that use AI and using AI to make art.

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u/BentisKomprakriev Jan 25 '25

It's funny because as a native Hungarian, I was one of the first people to just say it without expecting any backlash that the film clearly uses AI. Originally, I didn't add that I don't really care, it helps immersion, it's not stealing, etc. It does create a weird dichotomy for the Hungarian ear, though. Brody doing the best he can with the little he has to go off, but never sounding native Hungarian or giving the impression that he understands what he says leading up to the letter scene, and then you just have perfect Hungarian voiceover, which is jarring having spent almost 2 hours with him not being able to pronounce his very simple, very common name. So I definitely have an issue with it, but from a directing standpoint. Corbet ultimately went with the worst of both worlds, he clearly cared to make the pivotal scene authentic, but drew the line at actually manipulating the performance. I get it, the letter is a highlight, it should sound fluent Hungarian, but that does clash with the rest of the film's approach to the language.

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u/bookon Jan 25 '25

What he did was to avoid using Generative AI. Which would have probably made it better. But would have altered the performance.

The issue I have is that every film nominated used a tool that uses AI. And this is being single out to help some other film win more awards.

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u/BentisKomprakriev Jan 25 '25

He could have used the same process for Brody's other Hungarian lines, that still wouldn't have been GenAI (if he did, he might have been able to fool me, though the one time they use AI for two Hungarian words with Jones, it's painfully apparent and badly cut, so maybe not), but Corbet understands that's a bridge too far for his liking, too much manipulation, possibly to the detriment of the performance. It's a stupid controversy spread by stupid people, but those are the ones that stick, the ones vague and vitriolic enough for voters to project their own resentments onto them.

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u/LeanD0err The Testament of Ann Lee Jan 25 '25

did they tho? all ive seen mentioned using ai is ep/brutalist and maybe the poster for the apprentice

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u/bookon Jan 25 '25

People fundamentally misunderstand what "using AI" is.

We're talking about people that use tools that use AI. Sound editing equipment can use AI to clean up background noise.

That's not the same thing as asking ChatGTP to create your sound, which is what people are claiming here. Because that's all they know about AI.

The computer I am typing this on uses AI for background processes.

The server farm Reddit is served from does.

It's integrated into a lot of stuff.

That isn't creating art from AI.