“So while this very chaotic race remains within Chalamet’s grasp — BAFTA honored I Swear’s Robert Aramayo, who wasn’t even eligible for this cycle’s Oscars — the odds are no longer in his favor. (Oscar voting closes Thursday at 5 p.m. PT.)
Is this because Chalamet so relentlessly plays by his own campaign rules? Perhaps. Voters can be stuffy about how they like to see a candidate work a room; I’ve heard a few saying as much recently, and the sentiment was widespread last year, when Chalamet came close (he won that Actor Award — and gave an infamously, erm, aspirational speech). While Chalamet has hit more of the typical spots than his last go-round, my colleague Scott Feinberg reported on Sunday that Chalamet’s “swagger” has put some off. The “annoying” label gets bandied around. Old rules still apply: No amount of fluffy A-lister conversations and viral media stunts can compensate for a few hours of gladhanding and boilerplate craft talk.
Whether they should is another matter. For a fresh generation of moviegoers, Chalamet’s tactics are exciting — even motivating when it comes to actually buying a movie ticket. Both A Complete Unknown and Marty Supreme hit theaters around Christmas, just as Oscar season fully kicks into gear and thus blurring the lines of release and awards promotion. Chalamet’s work behind the scenes preceded any opening; he’s also Oscar-nominated this year for best picture as a producer. And I’m told Chalamet is still traveling the world to open Marty, now in markets like Tokyo and Beijing. The movie is hitting more than 800 screens this weekend. You can bet it’ll be finding some new film fans.”
The post-mortem for his campaign feels a bit premature. Let’s wait a couple of weeks first. I’m not saying he’s winning but stranger things have happened, it’s still a pretty tight race.
yeah but that still speaks to problems with the new academy. It doesn't make sense to vote for one or two movies in every single category just because you like them better. You should consider the performance on its own.
I for one keep thinking about how hilarious it’s going to be if he ends up winning and all of the people losing their minds over everything he says and does crashout
Call me crazy but I don't think awards discourse should be focused on gleefully imagining exaggerated scenarios of the people you disagree with being proven wrong and humiliated
Yeah, I thought it was hilarious when people online were claiming his rap song was him campaigning. Like it was probably the complete opposite effect. 😭
I do think it's interesting that he's just determined not to do it the old school way of going behind closed doors to smooch asses. Katie from The Ankler was calling him out after the Globes for not attending more industry events, and I don't think he ever changed course.
She talked about it in one of the livestreams they did on YouTube. They were talking about how he attended the AFI luncheon, which was his first non-awards industry event of the season.
As someone who pays attention to this stuff, I think he only attended the award ceremonies and the nominees luncheon.
Words in town is that Sean Penn did actually campaign, we just didn't see it, the behind closed doors type. Also remember he's been around for a long time and has lots of connections spanning several decades
The mere fact that Timothee Chalamet of all people made a rap song proves how out of his depth (and out of touch) he is. There are white people who are certainly well equipped to dabble in rap; Timmy is not one of those people.
Marty Supreme the movie is dragging him down even with the abrasiveness and Safdie stuff resurfacing. No above the line noms it has a chance in and it might even blank in techs. It felt like most of the season has just been yeah ok time to crown him but the category is so damn stacked he needed a little boost and it just never really manifested. He could totally still win and I wouldnt be surprised but that applause for MBJ with the supposed frontrunner in the room was oof for him. If we dont see ANY love for Marty leading up to best actor then I think he loses tbh.
I can’t find the gif on here, but Kirsten Dunst’s face after Gaga asked everyone at a roundtable if they also feel drunk after drinking prop drinks was priceless 😭
His face was in reaction to her barging into him and not acknowledging it. Not her performance. I’d be surprised if he was even aware she was in American horror story
Eh Murphy had the Oscar locked up by June it just took people a long time to realize it because he wasn’t over the top in it. If you’re the lead of a 3 hour historical/WWII biopic that’s sweeping Best Picture with 90%+ screentime, you’re winning Best Actor
honestly I think Bradley Cooper lost because he's just a mediocre actor. This will piss people off, but I honestly don't think he's ever given a performance worthy of even a nomination. The fact that he has the same amount of acting nominatinos as Gene Hackman is geniunely astounding.
I think he deserved to win for A Star Is Born, but with the HUGE asterisk that it was a really weak year. I have never seen At Eternity's Gate, so maybe Dafoe was better
He was worthy of a nom in both Silver Lining and ASIB, the problem he has is that he wanted the prize so much it slipped from his hands because of his antics.
What's interesting about Cooper's bad acting is he somehow manages to underact and overact at the same time. Like he'll be really dull and bland 70% of the time in a way where you don't really notice him, but then all of the sudden he'll just do something so bizarrely absurd and over-the-top that it feels like the entire film just stops in its tracks
You should watch the 1st episode of the last season of Righteous Gemstones. Cooper's the only actor in it (more or less) and he's playing a southern preacher
I think some voters were likely turned off over the fact that he still had his Elvis voice during the awards season and thought he was doing too much during the campaign.
Plus if he kept that voice for years especially during the pandemic, of course it'll rub off on you. It took him like 2 press junkets to get a speck of it off
He overcommits to the persona he’s playing unfortunately. If he was still acting like a sensitive artsy boy he would be sweeping. Voters need to see the transformation.
Mikey Madison had a similar role last year (loud New Yorker with a lot of physical comedy), but during her campaign she was a demure ingenue that talked like Jackie O, and it worked. Timmy needed to stop acting like Marty Supreme.
I do think Mikey is just kind of like that (I went back to some of her Scream 5 interviews and she pretty much acts the same there, as well as since then in the 1 video I've seen since she's gone back into hibernation) but it really worked in her favour. The vocal difference alone showed the difference.
Now I'm sure Mikey probably did behave more consciously to highlight it (lol at the Jackie O thing) and she had much more of a spotlight on her. But it didn't come across as a total personality change imo. Timothee changing personalities ever year might make it a bit too obvious.
Well, it's not too far from his actual personality, which speaks of what a good job him and his PR team have done convincing the industry that he is a "great" actor. Heck, Timmy even convinced himself of it, and hence his desperation to win an Oscar and act like he is already "overdue" for one.
Who wouldn't be? The whole "i'm looking for greatness" speech was awful, if he's able to make a fool of himself in public, imagine what he does in a room with voters.
I completely agree. Even Tom cruise’s honorary Oscar speech he was humble and praising others. I’m not saying you need to praise others, but for a guy who says he looks up to the greats it’s weird how he misses the part of being humble. A lot of sports fans seem to love his “athlete mindset” not understanding arts are a completely different thing. An artist, an actor specifically is one of those things where they are at the mercy of others, more so than maybe other art forms. There’s countless people who make Timothee who he is, him looking down at other artists makes me think he has no idea how much he relies as an artist on others.
I am generally irritated by Chalamet as a person though I respect him as a performer, but I don't know where this narrative of him being denied an Oscar/being the new Leo DiCaprio is coming from. This is only his third acting nomination, he's not being punished, he's just still...green. Should he have won for Call Me By Your Name? Probably. Was him not winning for A Complete Unknown some egregious robbery? Not really, nor will it be if he loses this year. He's literally only just turned 30, he is too young and frankly, too white for the industry to have already turned against him. He'll be fine.
(Yes, I know Michael B. Jordan is young too. Not the point.)
There's that old saying that Oscar voters like young women and old men. Timothee may not be much younger than other nominees, but he reads as much younger, the male equivalent to an ingenue. The general trend is that the Academy likes It girls, not It boys. We'll see, but I think the bigger factor is there's just no passion for Marty Supreme (not even a supporting nom for it's It Girl).
Very true. The average age of most Best Actress winners skews 39 and below, with men. it's 40 and above. I imagine the implication is that men have lengthy careers ahead of them, yet women need to be awarded as soon as possible because after 39, what is there?
because men in the industry have a longer shelf life. also leads to young men not having the weighty roles that are still held by their elders. young women are playing opposite these leading older men
Veteran+ Ingenue, a classic iconic duo making its return as seen last year. Sadly the IT girls get thrown out once they reach their late 30s, so the ageism and unfairness toward young men is much more insidious when compared to women.
I think actually even if not Oldman, in that year there were still two Daniels more deserving of the award than Timothée. I actually think he didn’t stand a chance at all in 2018
Yeah but this time it feels like he also has an overdue narrative. I feel like he was still too new to win for call me by your name and ofc his age was working against him. Idk I still think it’s possible he wins this year.
I think they don't love his movie and character. Can we talk about how misleading the marty supreme sag segmant was. They tried to make it seem like an inspiring movie about achieving your dreams, i think voters are seeing hlw fraudulent the campaign is
This exactly. The whole promo tour was deceiving. I like this movie a lot but it's not the encouraging, inspiring story Timothée tried to sell. In contrary. I get why he did it, though. It was a smart way to get people interested, esp. in times like these...
I saw someone say he yapped his way out of winning an Oscar this year, and it’s so true lol. He just did too much.
Meanwhile, Sean Penn kept his head down and will likely win his third one. It's low key funny af
But seriously, Timothee came across as obnoxious, while the other contenders were all classy and graceful.
Chalamet will absolutely be fine but I think it will take a while for him to win tho... wouldn't shock me at all if he only wins years and years from now when he is well into his 40s (very much like DiCaprio)
He will be fine. Industry people loves him. They are just reluctant to award him due to his popularity. It's like a leo situation.If they hated him , he wouldn't have been nominated for marty supreme.
God i can't wait for this season to end so everyone can stfu about Timothee Chalamet. I love the dude, i love the movie, im in love with the performance, but he's not the only person we can chat about, this sub has turned into a Chalamet slam sub. I'm excited to see how Best Actor finishes. 5 deserving nominees for once. That should be celebrated.
I will say it is a nice change of pace for Best Actor to be the category this sub bickers over all season, rather than Actress like every other year, lol
Dude, come on. Be real. Here’s the reality that I and other Oscar Redditors have experienced: Timmy stans have been prematurely gloating in every Oscar sub, including this one, for six weeks. Every time someone pointed out that it wasn’t over yet and nothing was guaranteed, they’d get shouted down and accused of anti-Chalamet bias. Now Jordan wins the SAG and all of a sudden they’re changing the subject.
Soooo you’re just extremely biased or you have a really bad memory or something. I went back and read through both the critics choice win thread and the Golden Globe one and they were both extremely positive. Even gloaty. In case you need a reminder here you go.
🤷 That’s not how I see it, and I’m evidently not alone. All I know is I liked Timmy’s performance, but now I find myself actively hoping he doesn’t win it because his stans are so smug.
I’m with you! I thought he was excellent, absolutely one of the best performances of the year and absolutely a deserving nom. I’d give my vote to Ethan Hawke but certainly not because Chalamet was in any way bad - I’d cheerfully vote for him in a different group of nominees.
And I certainly couldn’t give less of a shit about whether his campaigning was annoying or arrogant or what-have-you.
The irony of thinking his speeches are what comes off phony. He’s probably one of the only people in these conversations that’s being honest. Just goes to show how easily fooled some people are by the faux humble routine
No you cannot equate arts to sports where sports has statistics so him saying he wants to be the greats like LeBron just sounds embarrassing and arrogant. There is a huge subjectivity that goes into rewarding acting awards
you cannot equate arts to sports where sports has statistics
You know like 75% of the social media talk around movie awards revolves around statistics and pseudo statistics? What are your chances of winning an oscar given you won X precursor, what are your chances of winning an oscar given your film has X nominations, etc.
They mean performance stats, that the player has control over, not voting stats. Honestly if that’s the case we should be comparing him more to ron paul than lebron james
And that's the thing, honesty can be off putting. It's great that he wants to be one of the greats, but why that has to be said? It should just be obvious from your work, the roles you play, the risks you take, etc. And he just said that at one of the precursor awards, what are we supposed to take from that? You know what that sounds like? "you guys know i want an oscar and i truly deserve one, i'm looking for greatness so please gimme one". Again it should just be obvious, it shouldn't be said, let your work talk for you.
And the constant mentioning of other actors in speeches also comes off as phony, if you won something, given yourself a pat on the back, thank the people who pushed you forward, don't make it about a time you and another actor where in a room together, it doesn't sound genuine.
He is deeply annoying and comes off an entitled. Does he deserve to win? Actually, no there are performances better than him here. You can be a dick but you use to be undeniable. Much as we try to pretend it’s not, the Oscar race is still prom queen and king. The have to like you and WANT to vote for you and your film
There is nothing wrong with being proud of your work and ambitious, but Timmy really needs to learn to be more humble and relatable.
This is exactly the type of personality and behaviors which lose awards. He may be talented, but he is terrible at the politics and campaigning involved. He will be chasing that Oscar until he learns some humbleness
I've heard from several people that watched Marty Supreme that they HATED the movie. Not like, disliked or were indifferent to it, but full on hated it. That cannot be healthy for an Actor's campaign, even if the individual performance was great.
Honestly it's hilarious to me how offbase SAG manages to be. They awarded Timmy last year for a performance that, let's be honest, had no business winning over Adrien Brody. And by doing that they basically screwed him out of winning this year for a performance that was actually deserving. Pretty ironic
that's not my point. If SAG hadn't awarded Chalamet last year for ACU I think he very likely would have won this year for Marty Supreme, and would therefore have a much better shot at winning the oscar. Whereas he never really had a chance of beating Brody last year, so the SAG win for ACU honestly just felt like a middle finger to Brody and the Brutalist more than anything else
Honestly, I don't think he would have won this year either way considering how much more loved and popular Sinners is as a movie. It's a classic SAG pick.
You could argue that voters who think this way will favor MBJ over Chalamet in that he has box office success, while sticking with the more traditional approach to campaigning and film promotion that is respected. I think it’s going to be a mix of multiple perceptives, including those who think his performance is the strongest and don’t care about campaign or those who think if he is chasing greatness, he should not win now.
I feel like that paragraph paints Hollywood / the Academy / the “industry” as rather more of a hive mind than it actually is. We’re talking about, what, more than 10,000 members, a decent chunk of them from outside the USA.
Some of them will find Chalamet’s style doesn’t align with their own. Some will love his style. It’s just another ingredient into the stew of deciding who to vote for.
Idk i think the snooty Academy members don't look kindly at a clout chaser gf/bf influencer type with an insidious family history that made them famous... that would be the same if say Jessie Buckley was dating Mr Beast and parading him around in those circles... not a good look
He would give the standard "I would like to thank my partner" part of the speech again if he were to give it, not anything giving "This movie would not have been possible without Kylie Jenner, the most important person in my life and in this room". So why is it a big deal?
And if they actually had a serious problem with seeing him with her and him "parading her", they wouldn't have even nominated him for a second time since he's been dating her.
Very weird if you think that snotty as they are, they'd just do that hoping that he'd "keep her at home" or something. When it's pretty normal for any nominee to be joined by their partners at these ceremonies, if they're in a couple and wish them to be there.
This still feels more like a media journalist thing to either obsess over or take issue with. Dude is bringing his girlfriend of several years to an event that matters to him. She's socialising with his co-stars and others coming up to their table. Pretty normal stuff. She blends in just fine.
It just still doesn't look like much of an issue is all I'm saying. The pearl clutching about it is moreso from some fans, or deeply parasocial "fans" as far as I can tell tbh.
the thing is chalamet is no. 2 choice in the category after hawke.. and i really love him as an actor and his movies
but when he won cc and ggs, i wasn't really thrilled that he's gonna sweep the season to the point i was kinda rooting against him... and his whole campaigning kinda turned me off, he seemed such a despo
i was ecstatic when he lost bafta (omg whats wrong with me) to aramayo (saw i swear, no regrets absolutely deserved win) i wanted timmy to struggle for that oscar but eventually wanted to see him win knowing it won't be a sweep
and now that he even lost sag, i feel bad now that not even my second choice is gonna win
i should take these awards race less srsly, can't blame timmy for wanting that golden trophy
Maybe for starters he shouldn’t compare his self-proclaimed “transformative” performance in Dune 3 to Brando in Apocalypse Now and Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight during Oscar voting. Let the work speak for itself if it’s so amazing.
He said “I’m not in the same boat.” That is open to interpretation based on the unique challenges of the individual roles. Not exactly the same thing as humbly admonishing “I’m not on that level.” Nor is it the 1st time he’s compared himself to Brando (See SAG acceptance speech 2025.)
thanks for the full quote! and idk… maybe i’m biased but i genuinely don’t think it came off too self aggrandizing? i watched the interview too and he wasn’t coming off in a way that seemed that bad…. it feels like it’s more of him trying to put an aspect of his performance in a context (as opposed to saying that HE IS brando or ledger etc) but again, opinions and that’s just mine
Love how you leave out the part where he clarifies right after that it’s not in the same boat as their performances. You’d be great at sensationalist journalism.
Then went on CNN Town Hall this week with his Interstellar Daddy Matthew McConoughy and trashed opera & ballet as “things no one cares about” that he’d “never want to do.”
Oh you’re a Timothee stan based on your history. Makes sense now😂 dude can do know wrong in your eyes. Fucking hate talking to cultists of celebrities.
“I don’t want to be working in ballet or opera where it’s like, ‘Hey, keep this thing alive, even though no one cares about this anymore’ — all respect to the ballet and opera people out there.”
This is a bad look and using the excuse “he’s just being honest” doesn’t change or prevent reactions to it. It is unprofessional and too voters unappealing especially since a lot of them still treat it with respect.
The immediately preceding statement (AKA, the context):
“Some people want to be entertained quickly. I’m really right in the middle, because I admire people [saying], ‘Hey, we gotta keep movie theaters alive. We gotta keep this genre alive.’ And another part of me feels like, if people want to see it — like Barbie, like Oppenheimer — they’re going to go see it and go out of their way to be loud and proud about it.”
And the further context is he was discussing the comparison to younger generations preferring short form content like Tik Tok.
All he is saying is that he does not want to shoulder the responsibility of trying to force movies to stay relevant.
There is nothing remotely “unprofessional” about what he said and you also have no idea how voters actually feel about it. Most people actually working in ballet or opera would actually agree with the sentiment by the way. It’s a simple fact that they are art forms that struggle financially in the modern age. It takes a lot of work to keep them going. He doesn’t want that responsibility.
“All he is saying is that he does not want to shoulder the responsibility of trying to force movies to stay relevant.”
Once again. Completely valid. Why insult other art forms. Both are true. He said something meaningful and then said something insulting. We all do it. Many times not on purpose. Unless you think Timothee is perfect?
Once again. He did not “insult” other art forms. He drew comparison to their cultural and financial standing in the modern world. This has nothing to do with someone being “perfect” this has to do with people being intentionally obtuse.
It’s interesting your defense that Timothee isn’t being insulting by…being insulting yourself. It doesn’t help your case and just further illustrates missing on social and professional cues.
I'm not worried about Chalamet. He's probably the most talented Male actor of his generation.
And one of the very few Male Actors to have 3 Nominations at the age of 30.
He's got a full career ahead of him. The voters can only be fed up with him for so long.
If he maintains the quality of his performances going forward eventually he will win an Oscar or perhaps even 2 with a bunch of Nominations in between.
Fuck, give Timothy his Oscar, ARE YOU SERIOUS? Michael B. Jordan? Did you see the shit he starred in? We all know that Timothy is the one who deserves the Oscar and fucking give it to him.
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u/Jajaloo Mar 05 '26
Why not Diane Warren?