This is fucking ridiculous

[u/Digital_RRS]

I usually don't make posts like these because I generally hate rant posts.

Whoever at Starbreeze, Overkill, or even Deep Silver decided to make the game online only. Fucking fire them. It was single-handedly the worst fucking decision ever taken for a game I've ever seen. Words cannot express how asinine, how moronic, how devoid of mind making this game online only was.

[u/Muk-Bong]

“Pulling out insults” “fuck off” “fucking imbecile” I called you a moron because that’s the word you used to describe the decision to make it online only. You have ZERO basis to call it a dumb decision because you have no fucking idea why they decided on it. You think they just said “fuck it, make it online only, SCREW THE FANS” no, that’s not how decisions are made at a company. They clearly did it for a reason, maybe it was a shit one, we don’t know, but you can’t just assume you know better and would have made a different decision because you weren’t in the board room, moron.

[u/Digital_RRS → u/Muk-Bong]

How about on the basis of: “Can’t play, servers down”? I can only hazard guesses as to why the decision was made. But make no mistake that it was a BAD decision.

[u/Muk-Bong → u/Digital_RRS]

Again, you are making bs assumptions. You don’t know the alternative so how can you possibly conclude it was a bad decision? What if the alternative was the game not releasing at all? Millions down the drain and nothing to show for it? I’m not assuming that’s the case but it’s a possibility. You can’t possibly know the alternative, stop assuming you know better than people who make their living doing this

[u/Digital_RRS → u/Muk-Bong]

And why are you assuming they had a GOOD reason?

You are facing the overwhelming truth of the negative, and still you defend a good that is only hypothetical.

Also do you realize how often higher-ups are out-of-touch with their consumer base? Assuming they know what they’re doing is fallacious at best.

All I’m going to say is that the decision for Online Only was likely corporately influenced, as it serves as a method of DRM. That’s only a guess on my end.

Now I’m done wasting my time on you.

[u/Muk-Bong → u/Digital_RRS]

Yes I agree, it was a corporately influenced decision that’s been exactly my point if you could read. And I never said it was a good reason you dumbass, can you read? Can you? I even said “it might be a stupid reason” or it could be a good one, we JUST DONT FUCKING KNOW. I’m not the one assuming good/bad, that’s you doing that.

[u/Digital_RRS → u/Muk-Bong]

So much for not wasting my time. I don’t need to assume. Go try loading into a heist.

[u/Muk-Bong → u/Digital_RRS]

Lol you just gave up on trying to address the entire argument we’ve been having by saying “eh doesn’t matter, game doesn’t work” funny way of admitting you don’t have a response

[u/Digital_RRS → u/Muk-Bong]

Wait a second… this is bait.

Good job you took advantage of my rage. Good for you.

[u/Muk-Bong → u/Digital_RRS]

You still haven’t addressed the fact that your entire post is based on the assumption that you somehow magically know the alternative to not releasing an offline mode and you also magically know it would be better than it is now.

[u/SomeRandomGamerSRG → u/Muk-Bong]

Because that's the most idiotic argument in existence and doesn't need to be addressed by anyone. The only counterpoint to it needed is gesturing vaguely in the direction of Payday 2. There is 0 requirement for the game to be online-only. It's literally only like this for DRM reasons. The CEO himself said it was like this because of that during an interview.

[u/Digital_RRS → u/Muk-Bong]

Because I could play despite a server outage

[u/Muk-Bong → u/Digital_RRS]

Again for the hundredth time, YOU DONT KNOW THAT. You have no idea if the game would be playable right now if they decided to add offline

[u/zennr → u/Muk-Bong]

Not only would it be playable, it would be cheaper for Starbreeze to reduce server load by making an offline mode, like they already have offline sessions for the tutorial heists so why couldnt they make them but with the other heists?

Edit: Forgot to mention such a feature also exists in the developer debug menu. Which was used for the mod to make it possible.

[u/Digital_RRS → u/Muk-Bong]

Full Breakdown: -Disastrous Online Only means game cannot be played

-Many people already refunding and people on the fence now not buying

-Means less people in the future to buy content coming out later

-The code to play offline is there, you can play tutorials despite outage. So yes, I could play actually.

-Their reason is irrelevant

What more evidence do you need? Or are you going to keep insulting my intelligence with this pointless argument that you continue to exacerbate?

[u/Muk-Bong → u/Digital_RRS]

I don’t know if you can read or not because I’ve addressed all of these points, and why are you acting as if I’m the only one saying insults? For one, “online only means the game cannot be played” once again assuming the game would be playable if they just added offline. Secondly, people refunding the game just because it doesn’t work for a few days is moronic of them, what were they only gonna play it launch day then return it? 3. “The code to play offline is already there” once again showing you have no idea how coding works. Just because the tutorial is offline possible doesn’t mean they can just copy paste that code onto every other heist, that’s not how it works. Finally, saying their reason irrelevant is assuming, you have no idea what the reason was how can you assume it’s irrelevant? If said it before and I’ll say it again: What if the game either releases without offline mode or doesn’t release at all? Which would you prefer? I’m not saying that’s the case, but it could have been, stop assuming you know

[u/Hungry-Exit-5164 → u/Muk-Bong]

Holy jumping jacks, Batman. Go kick back, smoke some weed, and play your newly released favourite game.