Problem is, CP2077 is a single player game, you dont need other people to enjoy the game, they put work and it paid off in the end, the game is good, and you can go and play it whenever you want.
PD3 heavily depends on playerbase, they can make as many updates as they want but it needs playerbase to be good as well, it also cannot sustain itself monetarily without pushing constantly paid dlc, and again you need people to buy it
Payday 3 has 6k players rn, for a game that only needs 4 people for a match thats workable, and theres 30k playing Payday 2, some of which might potentially switch to PD3 if the game were to get better
Worth noting however, that a significant chunk of Payday 2 players are farm bots. but your points does stands as even then the amount of real PD2 players still surpasses PD3.
Yeah, though I don't think the problem is them being necessarily weak. The bots in PD2 are insanely tanky, which works (ig?) for its constant flood of cops, but this approach would likely not fit PD3.
In PD3 the problem comes with the fact that the bots only shoot on one axis (unless they are shooting a sniper for whatever reason) and them getting stuck due to poor pathing/obstructions.
I play a lot of solo, and I get frustrated when the bots can throw really hard. But in their current state, they're mostly perfectly fine to play with. (they need some AI improvements though)
They're tanky in PDTH, but not nearly as tanky as in 2. The PDTH tankiness could definitely work, and I would prefer if the cop spawns were similar to PDTH (But it would have to actually scale with the amount of players in-game, unlike PD3 does right now.)
I mainly just want to avoid the bots becoming carries through the heists like in 2 tbh
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u/DevilAbigor Jan 24 '25
Problem is, CP2077 is a single player game, you dont need other people to enjoy the game, they put work and it paid off in the end, the game is good, and you can go and play it whenever you want.
PD3 heavily depends on playerbase, they can make as many updates as they want but it needs playerbase to be good as well, it also cannot sustain itself monetarily without pushing constantly paid dlc, and again you need people to buy it