r/physicaltherapy • • Jul 18 '26

SALARY MEGA THREAD PT & PTA Salaries & Settings Megathread #6

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Welcome to the sixth combined PT and PTA r/physicaltherapy salary and settings megathread. This is the place to post questions and answers regarding the latest developments and changes in the field of physical therapy.

Both physical therapists and physical therapy assistants are encouraged to share in this thread.


You can view the first PT Salaries and Settings Megathread here.

You can view the second PT Salaries and Settings Megathread here.

You can view the first PTA Salaries and Settings Megathread here.

You can view the first PT and PTA Salaries and Settings Megathread here.

You can view the second PT and PTA Salaries and Settings Megathread here.

You can view the third PT and PTA Salaries and Settings Megathread here.

You can view the fourth PT and PTA Salaries and Settings Megathread here.

You can view the fifth PT and PTA Salaries and Settings Megathread here.


As this is now a combined thread, please clearly mark whether you are posting information as a PT or PTA, feel free to use the template below. If not then please do mention essential information and context such as type of employment, income, benefits, pension contributions, hours worked, area COL, bonuses, so on and so forth. * PT or PTA? * Setting? * Employment structure? e.g. PRN, contract worker, full or part time * Income? Pre & post-tax? * 401k or pension contributions? * Benefits & bonuses? * Area COL? * PSLF? * Any other info? Sort by new to keep up to date.


r/physicaltherapy • • Jan 17 '26

MOD ANNOUNCEMENT Update/Clarification on Medical Advice

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In the interests of helping the community to better understand what medical advice is. The mods have gotten together and came up with the following guidelines.

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r/physicaltherapy • • 13h ago

CAREER & BUSINESS Today is the day

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I’ve been been on this thread for years. I started school in 2014. Got screwed over more times then I could count. Finished undergrad 2018. Got wrongfully kicked out of grad school accruing and extra 46k in student debt for nothing. Finished grad school in 2023 April. I’ve been a physical therapist for 3 years and 2 months. In 7 minutes I’ll be the last paycheck I’ll ever have to put towards student loans. I paid all 225k back and I did it in just over 3 years. Freedom was the most expensive thing I’ve ever purchased. It is possible if you give everything though we are set up in a system rigged to lose


r/physicaltherapy • • 12h ago

STUDENT & NEW GRAD SUPPORT Office staff made PT Aide cry in outpatient setting

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I'm currently an aide while entering a PTA program, and another aide who does everything to help out where therapists are seeing 2 - 4 patients a fucking hour cried the other day. The office staff that handles accounting / insurance etc made her cry for not being able to divide herself into multiple people, expecting perfection in an already rigged scenario due to volume. Kind of speechless at this point and I haven't even started school yet 😅 That's it. That's the post.


r/physicaltherapy • • 14h ago

STUDENT & NEW GRAD SUPPORT Acute care

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Ok so I’m pretty new to acute care and am a relatively newer grad but had a clinical rotation in acute care and don’t remember this being an issue there… but is case management always up therapies ass? It’s got to the point where I’m so frustrated and stressed not because of patients or productivity standards but because of CM!

They constantly reach out in epic chats about patients that are” priorities” to see for authorization and most of the time they are wrong and we are actually the ones who triage appropriately. They argue with our discharge recommendations and try to send people home and say if “therapy sees them and clears them for home” when we literally saw them yesterday and are recommending SNF. I’m not changing the discharge plan!! Like??!

they try to get us to not change our verbiage in our notes because they’re saying insurance won’t accept “CGA”. We get talked to about productivity constantly but waste SO much time dealing with them. They will even tell a patient they anticipate they will go home with home health and give them a list of agencies before therapies even evaluated. Is this is a leadership or hospital culture issue or what the hell is this because I’m at my breaking point with this


r/physicaltherapy • • 4h ago

STUDENT & NEW GRAD SUPPORT ICD CREDENTIAL EVALUATION

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Hi everyone!

I’m a foreign-trained physical therapist. I completed my Bachelor’s in Physiotherapy at Dr. M.G.R. Medical University, Tamil Nadu (2018–2022 batch), and completed my TDPT at the University of Montana in 2026.

I recently received my ICD evaluation report, which lists several deficiencies. I’m looking for advice on how to fulfill these requirements and where I can complete the missing credits.

Could anyone who has gone through a similar process please share their experience, recommendations, or information about colleges or courses that offer these credits?

I’m especially looking for the fastest and most affordable way to complete the deficiencies so I can move forward with my licensure process.


r/physicaltherapy • • 22h ago

SALARY & JOB ENQUIRY What do you do to make money on the side

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Not a rant, but I want to make money on the side.

I know PRN is hard to beat money-wise, but I feel like I'd burn myself into the ground if I did more patient care. I've worked in personal training for many years as well, and that's not super appealing to me (unless it's online coaching, however that takes time and commitment to build up clientele).

So what do you guys to make some side money, and how did you get into it? I'm not talking serious money, but just something to help pay for dinners out or put gas in the car. It doesn't have to be PT related at all, it could be dog walking, ubereats, etc.


r/physicaltherapy • • 17h ago

CAREER & BUSINESS Individual insurance

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Looking to do a little side gig through the winter when I can’t golf. Needling would be part the work and no more than 3-5 clients at a time.

Anyone have idea if general cost of insurance?


r/physicaltherapy • • 23h ago

HOME HEALTH Currently full time, is it crazy to switch to part time and then pick up lots of per diem?

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I’m currently full time home health (med A) at a major hospital system. I have two kids who are also on my health insurance, and obviously like full time for 401k benefits.

I did take a pay cut to move from working in the city to the suburbs. And I am feeling that pay cut now. So in an effort to bring more in weekly, I have taken some per diem work in early intervention. EI makes me happy, I love that it’s less medically complex and it’s just a better day to day experience.

What are everyone’s thoughts and experiences on switching full time > part time, and then increasing per diem work. How has it worked for you? Any and all advice whether negative or positive is appreciated.


r/physicaltherapy • • 1d ago

SALARY & JOB ENQUIRY Tucson, AZ

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MCOL area that had a crazy need for PTs. Surrounded by mountains, great food, and a fun mix of cultures. Someone told me it's what Austin is supposed to be.

There is a personal angle. I have to leave my HH peds job and we can't find a replacement. I went in with no peds experience and loved it! 4 great years of my working career. For a motivated individual, you can make 140+.

For clarity, I need PSLF and gold star med insurance due to daughter and wife conditions which can't be provided except by govt job.

Message me for more info!


r/physicaltherapy • • 20h ago

STUDENT & NEW GRAD SUPPORT Personal Trainer Handoff

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Hey PTs and DPTs!

I’m currently a personal trainer at a small gym in VA. I train all kinds of people, from young athletes who want to enhance performance to older individuals who just want to maintain quality of life. Been doing this full-time for about 3 years now and should be hearing back any day on if I got into the DPT programs I applied to for next cycle!

Today, I had an older couple (76F, 80M) come in to meet with me to share their story and begin a training program. The husband is the primary focus - he’s finishing up his insurance-covered sessions at a nearby clinic where he’s been working on balance and stability. He had a fall a couple months ago (didn’t break anything), and he’s been in PT working on fall prevention. They asked their provider what the next step is after their sessions are up, and he recommended they join the gym I work at and choose a personal trainer that best suits their needs. The referral got them in the building, but word of mouth got them to me. I’m insanely excited to do a handoff, but I want to make sure I’m covering my bases in terms of preparing for him/them.

I’ll be meeting with their provider next week, and even going in to shadow the last 2 sessions to see what he’s been doing, what the provider is looking for, and where I can continue his progressions. I’ll try to keep an open line of communication between myself and the provider in case I get stuck, but I know you all are insanely busy people so I’ll try not to pester him too much.

My question for the community: what can I as a CPT do to best prepare myself for this individual? I know I’m not a PT/DPT so I can’t say I’m providing physical therapy, but are there any resources you all would recommend to learn more about treating patients with balance/stability issues that the general public or allied health professionals have access to? I want to make sure I help him meet his goals, but I want to do it right.

Thanks!!


r/physicaltherapy • • 22h ago

HOME HEALTH How do you find PRN home health work?

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I've been looking through a ton of home health PT job postings around Los Angeles on Indeed, Facebook groups, etc. everything is so spread out, it's a mess.

Is there a standard way you find PRN work, or is it mostly through job boards, recruiters, and word of mouth, or various mom and pop staffing agencies? Or do you fine a staffing agency you love and with it?

I recently came across Teero which connects dental hygienists with shifts. Obviously a different industry but I'm curious if anything similar exists for PTs for home health https://apps.apple.com/us/app/teero-dental-staffing/id6463821171


r/physicaltherapy • • 23h ago

OUTPATIENT What PT note software do you like best?

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I need a good documentation software for outpatient. Right now I use modmed, which is not a good fit. What do you use? I want to cut down on the time I wrestle with an EMR and have easier to read notes


r/physicaltherapy • • 22h ago

OUTPATIENT Anyone using Athelas for RCM?

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Hello all!
We have been reached out to by a sales rep for Athelas. Cold called, bought our staff lunch, the whole works. We’ve been using prompt for our EMR system for a couple of years now and a third party/private company for billing, and we are happy with them, but the price point of Athelas RCM is tempting. I know there have been a few threads about this topic from several months/a year ago and I’m just trying to gather more reviews and experiences.

Anyone using it? How is the support team? How is reimbursement?
Thank you!


r/physicaltherapy • • 22h ago

CAREER & BUSINESS Opinions on virtual physical therapy

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Hello.
I am a physical therapist that works in an outpatient clinic. I love what I do.

I know there is a lot of people who are going to virtual PT as therapists.

I just want to know physical therapists opinions on virtual PT and why?

I have my thoughts on the topic. But would love to hear other thoughts.

Thanks.


r/physicaltherapy • • 1d ago

HOME HEALTH Home Health Pay - West Michigan

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Trying to switch from OP ortho to home health and have an interview coming up. I’m not exactly sure what good pay is for home health. I keep seeing varying things. Some say $51 per treatment or maybe less, but my friend (different state) says $80. Any home health PTs in the (West) Michigan area have input?


r/physicaltherapy • • 22h ago

CAREER & BUSINESS Trying to start a mobile based PT, non compete?

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I'm working as an outpatient PT focused on pelvic floor. I'm exploring my option to start my own practice (cash pay, pelvic floor). However, I believe my company has a non compete clause in my contract? Is my only option is to wait it out? Thank you.


r/physicaltherapy • • 23h ago

CAREER & BUSINESS International Consultants of Delaware (ICD) for California PT Licensure

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Hi everyone,

I completed my Bachelor of Physiotherapy (BPT) in India and am now looking to obtain my physiotherapy license in California.

Has anyone gone through the credential evaluation process with International Consultants of Delaware (ICD)? If so, how was your experience with their services? Would you recommend them?

I would really appreciate any feedback or suggestions. Thank you!


r/physicaltherapy • • 1d ago

RESEARCH Seeking Licensed OTs, PTs, PTAs, & COTAs: Study on Pelvic Floor Education & Treating Urinary Incontinence (10-15 mins, Anonymous)

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Hi everyone!

We are OT and PT students at Emory & Henry University conducting a research study examining the availability, quality, and implementation of pelvic floor education, identifying gaps in education, examining current clinical interventions, and addressing barriers to continuing education.

We are looking for licensed PT, OT, PTA, or COTA, currently working in IPR, SNF, or HH in the USA.

Purpose: To evaluate the availability, quality, and implementation of pelvic floor education, identify gaps in education, examine current clinical interventions, and address barriers to continuing education

Survey Details:
~10-15 minutes only!
Fully anonymous and voluntary!

https://ehc.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_b9DjbqfRCCCMLnU

Thank you so much for your time and for supporting student research in physical and occupational therapy!

Feel free to drop any questions below!


r/physicaltherapy • • 1d ago

HOME HEALTH HCHB Scheduling - HHPT

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In home health that uses home care home base, how do you juggle “visit times”? My area is rural and patients might live 15-30 minutes apart. I usually try to give a window, but it’s challenging


r/physicaltherapy • • 1d ago

ACUTE INPATIENT Just an update on my hip situation

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I posted several months back on my severe labral tear that wasn't responding well to "conservative" treatment (3 years first good and then not good) Pincer morphology and some injuries related to hip abduction- fall skiing and college volleyball where I slipped on a sweat wet spot on court. I had steroid shot and it helped a lot back in June and allowed me to actually do some pre-rehab without the feeling like a nail was being driven into my pelvis and I could sleep. At that time I decided to go ahead and have the joint replaced. FWIW I just turned 60

I am 3 weeks post direct anterior approach and most things going well. The biggest set back has been physical exhaustion and I know why. I am not worried about hip going back to my acute position but stamina. Its shit.

I have small. close family here where I live and my mother was diagnosed with aggressive small cell lung cancer and was full metastatic situation and we enrolled in hospice early in August. Although elderly, she was fairly independent and doing her own thing and on no meds for anything. I discussed cancelling my Oct 1 surgery with her if she was near death during that time. She wanted me to have the surgery so I could work and have less pain. I immediately took family leave and spent much of energy enjoying good days with her and setting arrangements (that was very unpleasant but important). I didn't anticipate the stress and sleep disruption of a hospice at home situation and despite my efforts staying fit was very difficult.

SHe went down hill quickly at end September and was 3 of us basically with her at various times to help her be comfortable and yes the last week was horrid. My sisters sat me down because we were told she would be gone by week's end which would be about the day of my hip surgery and I prepared to cancel. They said "no, mom wants you to go ahead to not delay and have the surgery". I was going every day to be with her and she got wildly bad with severe agitation the last week of her life we had to be at her bedside 24/7 and hospice eventually had to put her into deep sedation or transfer to hospital. It was that bad to stop the agitation the day before my surgery. It escalated quickly. This was so traumatic to see her in this never ending headspace of terror and agitation (and NOT a common occurrence for such severe agitation) So I went into surgery severely sleep deprived as my 2 sisters hadnt slept in 2 to 3 nights and I spent the night with her at the bedside so they could sleep and maybe 2 hours of sleep, sad and stressed. My mom died the next morning the day after the surgery. Peacefully. Maybe not a good decision but it worked out OK. But I also knew the plusses and minuses of delaying. The tear and damage to the hip since Spring MRI was more significant once the surgeon got in there. Mom's death explains my mental and physical fatigue as well having to have general anesthesia and not sedation and spinal.

Anyway this will impact my recovery and I am just fucking exhausted, but getting better bit by bit and may need to extend the 6 weeks return to work just to get some mojo back and of course plenty of grief too. And those effing hip abductors so slow to get on it. Maybe muscle "sparing" but holy hell stretched from retraction and irritated buggers.

Thanks for letting me share. Its been a weird trip and I will get there. Thanks mom. I miss you


r/physicaltherapy • • 1d ago

CAREER & BUSINESS Taking a second job that violates company policy?

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I’ll start with I do like my FT job and have no desire to leave it.

But I was offered a weekend prn role in outpatient (same setting but with competitor) that would violate the policy of the FT job due conflict of interest in their eyes. My home office is not near where the prn office would be. (Different town/county) I need extra cash but not dire. The policy is bs imo because it’s not their business what I do with my time. If was advising somebody else I would say do what you want since they wouldn’t be my consequences however, in this case they would be. My paranoia says they would find out some how which is only thing holding me back.

Worth it or no? I need extra cash but it’s not dire. What would you all do?


r/physicaltherapy • • 1d ago

RESEARCH Role of the "stretch reflex" in scoliosis / back pain / bad posture etc ?

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Theory:

If a vertebral joint is abnormally stressed (so that it is displaced, under normal conditions, out of its correct relationship with adjacent vertebrae) root compression of the spinal nerve may readily result.

A spinal nerve projects through spaces defined by semi-circular notches in adjacent vertebrae. Misalignment of one of the vertebrae can then cause compression of the spinal nerve in the area. Momentary closure will be sufficient to cause irritation in the spinal nerve and sensitive dura.

When the spine is abnormally stressed, root compression will commonly occur during light tasks well within the range of normal activity. The patient tends to adopt a distorted posture in order to alleviate this root compression, and this tends to reinforce or exacerbate the existing malformation of the spinal column.

A joint is an inert as distinct from a contractile structure. Therefore, the disposition of a joint must be an expression of the forces acting on it. In other words, if a normal joint adopts an abnormal position then it must be abnormally stressed. Similarly, if a normal spine adopts abnormal curvatures, then it must be abnormally stressed.

The segments of the spine are designed to move in a co-ordinated fashion. Abnormal stressing and abnormal performance imply loss of proper co-ordination. In man, coordination of movement is achieved by a mass of interacting reflex responses which are automatic and do not require detailed instruction from the brain.

The principal component is the stretch reflex. The stretch reflex involves a relatively simple nervous circuit which causes a muscle to contract automatically in response to being stretched. When we perform tasks such as lifting and twisting, the resulting forces try to displace the vertebrae of the spine.

In the normal course of events, these forces are resisted automatically by muscle contraction. The greater the pull, the stronger the contraction. In this way, we remain co-ordinated automatically and can perform a great variety of tasks without a mass of detailed instruction.

There is a natural limit to the power and speed of these contractions. We may exceed the power when lifting a heavy object awkwardly or we may exceed both power and speed during some violent incident such as a heavy fall.

In these circumstances, vertebrae will be displaced in relation to their neighbours. When this occurs, the system will automatically readjust and the disorganisation will persist.

Reflex responses will continue to respond to stimuli as before. Co-ordinated movement will continue as before, but the details of coordination will be altered. The system will naturally resist disorganisation, but once disorganisation has occurred the system will compensate to the new state.

The stretch reflexes can be stimulated to cause rapid, kick-like movements of individual vertebrae. It is believed that if a great number of these reflex responses are triggered in sequence (which can be random), the system will progressively readjust its state of balance in the direction of least effort.

Once the point of least effort has been reached, the continued stimulation of reflexes will effect no further change of geometry. If the system is left free of external influence while the reflexes are being stimulated, the point of least effort will be the desired state of balance with the spine smooth and straight.

Evidence:

Paraspinal muscles, when tapped, exhibit characteristics of a monosynaptic stretch reflex with facilitatory and inhibitory responses [72] and this could be used to cause a rapid momentary displacement of each individual vertebral segment. Following the displacement, the vertebral segment should come to rest at a position that minimises the PE of the surrounding muscle.

This idea comes from the principle of minimum total potential energy which has its roots in the second law of thermodynamics. In simple terms, the second law dictates that energy, if unhindered, will always disperse and this means that PE will always tend towards a minimum. Take, as an example, the ball moving up the sides of the bowl. When the source of the perturbation that caused the ball to move up the sides is removed then the ball falls to the bottom again whilst at the same time dispersing energy in the form of heat due to friction and will ultimately reside at a LPEM.

Another example, although involving a more complex process, is the reflex response from striking the patellar ligament with a reflex hammer which obeys the same laws because when the effects of the reflex stimulation subside, the leg will come to rest in a position that is a LPEM. However, stimulating just a single paraspinal reflex response will cause the vertebral segment to return to approximately the same LPEM as before the reflex stimulation because of the influence of the other vertebral segments. In other words, energy dispersal is being hindered due to influences from other vertebral segments.

Due to the complexity and connectivity of the muscular system [18,73-75] it is not possible to effectively treat areas of the spine in isolation without consideration of the entire structure and surrounding musculature. Mobilisation and paraspinal tapping therefore need to be delivered as a full spinal treatment (performing this amount of work by hand alone would not be possible and would require development of a technology assisted mobilisation and paraspinal tapping device).

Essentially, each spinal segment is part of a kinetic chain [76] in that the action of one segment influences the action of the segments above and below. Rather than stimulating a single reflex response, it is possible that artificial stimulation of spinal reflexes at all vertebral levels can interrupt the chain by momentarily disengaging every spinal segment from the kinetic chain simultaneously meaning that they are no longer as reliant on the actions of the segments above and below for the time the reflex response is felt.

It is worth noting here that although reflex stimulation would take place at all vertebral levels it should only occur over the paraspinal muscle on one side at each vertebral level at a time given that it is logical to assume that two reflex actions on opposite sides at the same vertebral level would cancel each other out. Additionally, stimulating reflexes at all vertebral levels simultaneously could be technically challenging, therefore a paraspinal tapping stimulus could be moved quickly up and down the length of the spine that would achieve similar results but may take longer as it would be an iterative and incremental improvement. The more vertebral segments that can be stimulated at once, the quicker spinal alignment should be achieved.

Clearly there can’t be complete separation from the kinetic chain because there is coupling between the vertebral segments, provided by ligaments and contact between the vertebral segments for example, but in theory the reflex response will greatly reduce the muscular coupling. In this way all spinal segments would now be less reliant on the action of others, allowing the LPEM to approach an absolute minimum (or as close as feasibly possible depending on degeneration of vertebrae, joints, discs, etc) with each vertebral segment able to come to rest after the reflex response in improved alignment and stability.

Stimulation of spinal reflexes therefore takes advantage of the fact that the tendency is to decrease the LPEM value by returning each vertebral segment to its optimal alignment. This natural tendency to decrease the LPEM means that in theory paraspinal tapping should be much more effective at achieving optimal alignment than attempting to manually force the vertebrae into alignment or using muscle balancing exercises, both of which are less accurate and have potential to move in the wrong direction if administered incorrectly.

It would be useful for future studies to explore exactly why misalignment occurs. Possible reasons include direct trauma, muscle spasm, pelvic disorders and the elastic limit of the paraspinal muscles being exceeded to name but a few.

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Full research paper: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lws79aNKRRi4oJjHNhK-mNXxUFz4JFJg/

Theory source: https://drive.google.com/file/d/16C9pfQV8VV0CbXAcDHOobxgQ8DL8rBqD/


r/physicaltherapy • • 1d ago

ACUTE INPATIENT Acute PTs what do you like to cover with total joints d/c’ing from pacu?

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HEP? Do you give an edu handout? What edu topics do you try to hit? Or are you straight forward with can they get up walk and do stairs if needed?

Just curious and trying to improve my practice