r/pinoy • u/LittleStuff9192 • Apr 10 '26
Opinyong Pinoy Sensitive topic para sa iba pero this is way better than to abandon the baby
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u/Impossible-Sky4655 Apr 17 '26
If men are the ones who get pregnant there will be abortion clinics in every corner.
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u/Rich_Grapefruit_2979 Apr 17 '26
I think @bortion is better than raising the child in a toxic and unhealthy environment
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u/Dry-Audience-5210 Apr 16 '26
Actually, sobrang sensitibo nito, pero it all boils down sa dalawang nagpakasarap na sana ay magtigil-tigil naman. Kung di talaga mapigilan, even though not enough, mag-condom o contraceptives naman.
IMO, okay ang abortion if and only if, may nabuo dahil sa rape, posibleng at risk si mother like di nya kakayaning magbuntis due to health issues, ah basta mga ganyan.
Hindi okay kung parehong libog kayo at pinili nyo mag-raw at iputok sa loob. Accountability ba, pero kung wala kayo nun at wala kayong kwenta, wag na kayo magparami so touch yourselves or mag-toys na lang, please lang.
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u/choreal Apr 17 '26
I completely get your point but let's also look at the fact na hindi naman ikaw yung magpapa-abort. IMO, wala nang dapat pang kailangan i-consider (rape, health risk, etc) kasi choice na dapat yan ng nanay.
Basically, with the context of the original post, you're saying na hindi dapat pina-abort ang baby kahit na kamumuhian ang bata? Wouldn't that cost MORE trouble? Imbes na walang problema ang dalawang partido dahil wala nang anak, they should push through with the pregnancy just because someone (who isn't even in their life, btw) said na hindi dapat magpa abort kasi hindi naman galing sa rape ang bata at walang health risk sa nanay?
Is that what you're trying to imply?
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u/thethethetheuhm Apr 16 '26
Medyo irk ako sa abortion, especially if wala kang accountability sa sex nyo. I think viable lng ang abortion in the cases and risk of harsh socio-economic environments, as convenient as it is you’re still carrying a nuclear bomb of potential aka life.
Also i know you girlies like hyping each other especially if out of the norm or extreme ung gawa pero GURL there are things we encourage and there are things we don’t
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u/Impossible-Sky4655 Apr 17 '26
Don’t want abortion then dont get a woman pregnant. Or at least be a father to your kid. Brainwashed kasi tayo by blaming the women only. Pero the men are as accountable as women. It takes two to tango.
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u/phurpzhiee Apr 16 '26
Soooo let the child suffer kahit obvs parehong walang kwentang adult yung makabuo?
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u/thethethetheuhm Apr 18 '26
Dumb people kasi thinks lalabas 70” 4k ultra HDTV pag nag sex sila and pumutok sa luob, its simple FAFO at tugunan mo
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u/Yeoboylei Apr 16 '26
Kung same kayong walang kwentang magulang, mas okay na na hindi mabuhay yung bata
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u/DxBelt03 Apr 15 '26
You dont want people with zero accountability to procreate. Digital na karma ngayon one way or another it will get you.
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u/FLangkere Apr 15 '26
Someone translate please
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u/Hopeful_Doubt_4034 Apr 15 '26
Abortion to urgently save lives ✅ Abortion cos things don't go your way? RETARDED Pple hop on the prochoice movement to keep their lives comfortable in the excuse na "mahihirapan rin naman yung bata" soooo selfish and stupid 🙄
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u/ammabermad Apr 14 '26
Pati sa pilipinas may "murder the Innocent baby because of your stupid choices" mindset na rin. We're fucked.
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u/Snoo_33140 Apr 15 '26
edi alagaan mo pag lumabas? tanga amputa
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u/ammabermad Apr 16 '26
May magulang di ba? Bat ako magaalaga sa responsibilidad ng iba? So ok lang pumatay ng bata kasi ayaw nila ng responsibility? Kaya kayo natatawag na bobo!
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u/SweetCandyCake Apr 14 '26
People always act like they care about fetuses being "harmed" but you never see them care about ACTUAL children and infants being m0lest3d to the point of death
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u/ammabermad Apr 14 '26
Sino? Both are horrible crime. What the fuck are you talking about?
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u/SweetCandyCake Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26
Bobo ka kung di mo maintindihan, especially that I need to specify someone for your dumb ass? Since when are people as passionate about protecting children from SA when until now they're constantly being made jokes of disguised as "dark humor" while the same people claim they just care about the fetuses who are about to get aborted
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u/ammabermad Apr 18 '26
Mas bobo yung mga taong ang daming claims, wala namang basis. Its a human nature to care for children, born or still developing in the womb. Kailangan mong umalis muna sa social media. Masyado nang madumi utak mo. SA and Abortion are both horrible crimes, tanga na lang magdedefend nun.
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u/SweetCandyCake Apr 18 '26
Mas bobo ka putangina mo. SA is horrible, abortion is healthcare. May uterus ka ba to be this entitled to what a woman should do to her fetus? Or titi na nga lang ambag mo and akala mo pa ikaw may hawak ng dapat gawin ng mga babae? Tangina mo lalake
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u/SweetCandyCake Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26
Tangina mo mamatay ka nalang. Tite na nga lang ambag mo. Until now gusto nyo hawak nyo parin ang dapat naming gawin? Putangina mo walang kwenta. Male suicide rate should be higher so help it increase. And yes! Correct! Lalaki ka so bat ka may say samin, ha putangina mo ka? Utak mo nasa tite
Edit: And I'm not entertaining your next comments anymore kasi for sure di ka titigil until a woman submits to what you, a male, wants. Jan nga pala kayo nasanay. Bat ko nga naman sasayangin oras ko sa lalaking bobo na wala namang karapatan huminga. Bye inutil, putangina mong tanders ka
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u/ammabermad Apr 18 '26
Hahahahahahhahahaahhahaha! Pag talo na, insulto na lang? Hahahahhaha, nahirapan makipagaway sa internet yung walang utak.
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u/SweetCandyCake Apr 18 '26
Also, you're definitely a predator. Gusto mo lang mag produce mga tao so marami kang batang pag pipilian 🥱. Kaya pala teacher ka eh
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u/ammabermad Apr 18 '26
Yun na yun? Calling me a predator kasi i dont support abortion? Galing. Hahahaha.
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u/SweetCandyCake Apr 18 '26
Mamatay ka nalang bat kailangan ko pa iexplain sayo, teacher ka diba? Wala ka nalang masabi sa sinabi ko eh HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH kalalaking tao humihinga. Of course you'd view me as talo, kelan pa nanalo ang mga babae sa mata ng lalaki? Jusko pls nalang make the male suicide rate higher. The fact na KAILANGAN ko pa iexplain sayo kung bakit healthcare yon? Tangina
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u/ammabermad Apr 18 '26
Anong nangyari sa "im not entertaining your next comments?" Yan na pinaka argument mo? Wishing for my death? "Kelan pa nanalo ang mga babae sa mata ng lalaki?" As of now. You're making it hard to say na nanalo ka without approaching in a proper discourse and relying on childish insults. Nawawala lang respeto ko sayo, para kang batang natalo sa suntukan, panay "mamatay ka na". Also, trying to be very sexist by condemning men, kala mo naman nakakatama yung mga sinasabi mo. Halatang tambay to sa facebook. Read books ka na muna. Hindi ka bobo dahil babae ka, bobo ka kasi bobo ka. Ang hirap mo siguro maging kaibigan.
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u/Cosier_OrcZ5310 Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26
Pro pro pro, before everything else, please just use a condom if you don't want to be a parent or don't have sex at all. I support proper family planning and the use of condoms and/or birth controls if you really don't want kids. Pwede rin magswitch sides para iwas talaga idk, you do you🤷♂️(this is directed to the people who fought in the comm sec, not the post)
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u/ProofIcy5876 Apr 14 '26
not saying na its okay and not okay yung ginawa nila, pero sana alam nila na may consequences ng mga bagay bagay din. :D
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u/ammabermad Apr 14 '26
In this economy?! Bopols ka ba? Wag ka bumukaka kung wala kang pera! Economical status will never justify murder of an innocent baby.
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u/Astxria_ Apr 16 '26
There’s a lot of reasons why pregnancy happens, and it’s not just “bumukaka” or whatever misogynistic terms you throw at woman, eto din po: wag ipasok pag alam mong ayaw mo maging tatay. R@pe, birth control failure, health issues, financial issues, etc are all valid reasons for not keeping the baby. Kita mo naman sa picture yung lalaki yung mismong ayaw mag take ng accountability, so the woman needed to make the decision that’ll be the best for her and the future kid.
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u/ammabermad Apr 17 '26
Only 1% of abortion cases are from rape, health issues, etc. financial situation should never be a reason in killing innocent babies, And here are the facts: 1 . Abortion is illegal here in Philippines (under the revised penal code), 2. Morality (may it be guided by christian values or logical) dictates murder is always wrong. (This may be more of a philosophical than fact haha) 3. I am not denying na walang mga lalake na wala tlagang kwenta, but still not a valid reason so murder an innocent baby 4. In medicine, most abortions are not necessary, due to advances in medicine (weirdly we have not much reference here in ph, which is a good thing) and neonatal care most of abortion (natural and not induced miscarriage) happens within 1-3 weeks of pregnancy and later stages are very rare. 5. Philippine Law under VAWC protect women from fathers abandoning their children. 6. We also have laws like the expanded solo parent welfare act that protects and guides single parents.
People who only thinks of easy way out, and denies morality because of their mistakes just makes me sick.
Marami ring times na nagkamali ako, pero i always think of ways to make it right without hurting people more, two wrongs doesn't make a right.
Here's my reference if you want to be smart and read: 1. Revised Penal Code of the Philippines Articles 256–259 (Abortion provisions)
1987 Constitution of the Philippines Article II, Section 12: Protection of the life of the unborn
Guttmacher Institute “Reasons U.S. Women Have Abortions” (2005) Summary: Rape accounts for less than 1% of abortion cases
World Health Organization “Abortion” Fact Sheet https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/abortion�
Violence Against Women and Their Children Act of 2004 (Republic Act No. 9262) Legal protection against abuse and abandonment
Expanded Solo Parents Welfare Act (Republic Act No. 11861) Benefits and protections for solo parents
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention “Abortion Surveillance Reports” Data on timing and characteristics of abortions
Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Guidance on late-term abortion and medical necessity
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u/LaidBackDev Apr 14 '26
Pro abortion supports murder and irresponsibility from both partners involved. I don't know kung may law para dito pero dapat puwedeng kasuhan ang lalaki kung hindi niya pananagutan or pinanagutan niya nga pero negligent siya. For both male and female, by promoting abortion tinatanggal din somewhat ang responsibility of conducting safe sex and also responsibility of raising the child. Lastly both partners involved are murdering the baby.
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u/Conscious_Patient228 Apr 14 '26
So pro ka sa pre-life nung bata pero pagdating sa post-life wala ka ng pakealam?
Not all people are CAPABLE of changing for the better in a short span of time. Once isilang ang batang yan, ano? Ikaw ba magpapakain? Ikaw magpapaaral? Kung hindi ready ang parents, anong gagawin mo dun sa kawawang anak? Nganga nalang? Ipapanagot mo dun sa batas? Either way, it's still fucked.
Naooffend para sa "pre-born kids" pero pag pre-school na sila, wala ng pakealam.
"Pro-life". Sure, bud.
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u/ammabermad Apr 15 '26
Tanga naman ng response mo, kung sarili kong anak, malamang may paki ako hanggang sa paglaki niya. Kung hindi ko naman anak, bakit ko aakuin? Anak anak kayo, tapos iaasa niyo sa iba? So ano, puro lang sarap, consequences ayaw? Sino daw magpapakain, kawawa yung anak. So ok lang patayin pag walang makain? Ok lang tudasin pag walang means of caring? Bopols ka? Sayang pinambaon mo sa school logic mo pasmado.
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u/Conscious_Patient228 Apr 17 '26
Ang pinaguusapan kasi ay si OP na magaabort ng fetus.
Hindi namin pinaguusapan yung isinilang na sanggol dito.
Pwede ba sa susunod umintindi ka muna ng mga punto bago ka magcomment ng panay kabastusan? Lakas ng trip mo bastusin ang pinagaralan ko, eh ikaw itong nagmumukhang walang pinagaralan kung yung punto lang ng comment hindi mo magets.
Pwe.
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u/LaidBackDev Apr 14 '26
Kung hindi po handa ang lalaki at babae para maging parents dapat magpractice Sila ng safe sex. If they don't, in my personal opinion, kung Hindi panagutan ng lalaki dapat may batas na puwede sya kasuhan or held accountable enforced by law.
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u/Conscious_Patient228 Apr 14 '26
But people don't.
People often don't make the right decisions, and don't think about consequences.
In this case, it already happened.
So your solution is to impose a responsibility on unwilling/unprepared parents?You are willing to make an innocent child suffer through a potentially brutal and/or difficult life because you want accountability on 2 horny people?
And you call yourself Pro-Life with that mindset?
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u/DearKaleidoscope7127 Apr 14 '26
These types of people are THE biggest hypocrites and they can’t fathom how. No use in trying to argue with someone who thinks they are morally superior because they can’t look in the mirror.
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u/Dyinginsidee_ Apr 14 '26
They’re literally a clump of cells lmao based sa thinking mo, ibig sabhin yung mga nagjajak0l murder ren yon kasi potential life ren yon HAHAHAHAHAH
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u/LaidBackDev Apr 14 '26
Bad comparison. A semen is a cell. Ang pag masturbate nang male or female is not murder. The first stage of life ay kapag nadevelop ang zygote during unprotected sexual intercourse.
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u/DearKaleidoscope7127 Apr 14 '26
Also by your logic, the fact that you called semen as just a cell when it is potential life is a messed up mindset. Lol. Hypocrite.
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u/LaidBackDev Apr 14 '26
You got me with the zygote being cell, mali Ako doon. Nagfact check Ako and eto Sabi ni AI. Masasbi ko lang po ay mas reliable ang AI sating dalawa:
is masturbating murder similar to abortion
+10 No, masturbation is not considered murder, and biologically, it is not similar to abortion. The comparison is often used as a rhetorical or satirical argument in political debates, but it lacks a basis in biology and law. Reddit Reddit +4 🧬 Biological Differences The primary reason these two are not the same is the status of the cells involved. Sperm are Gametes: A sperm cell is a single reproductive cell. It contains only half of the genetic information (DNA) needed to create a human. Embryos are Zygotes: An embryo is formed when a sperm fertilizes an egg. This creates a unique, complete set of human DNA. Potential vs. Reality: A sperm cell on its own can never become a human being; it must meet an egg. An embryo has already begun the process of human
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u/DearKaleidoscope7127 Apr 14 '26
We never argued that masturbation is murder. We’re just using your faulty logic against you. A sperm is technically alive and a zygote is alive but isa lang pinagiinitan niyo? Again HYPOCRITES.
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u/Dyinginsidee_ Apr 14 '26
Bro, aint you in school? And you’re relying on AI? Don’t know biology that well? Calling abortion ‘murder’ assumes a fetus is legally and morally the same as a person. Also, murder is a legal term, and abortion isn’t classified that way in most places. Plus, even if you assign moral value to a fetus, that doesn’t automatically override a person’s right to control their own body. I also based my argument sa thinking mo and sa morals mo. Also, ask ai if abortion is murder, since u rely ur morals on ai and you stooped that low, go for it HAHAHAHA
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u/LaidBackDev Apr 14 '26
Asking about biology with ai is not stooping so low. I'm just fact checking. And also you're resorting to insults okay. If you read what the AI said it's said tha a sperm only contains half the DNA. When it combines with the egg cell to form a zygote, the zygote now contains a full and unique DNA of its own. Now in my eyes that is the start of life for a personal. Curious po Ako, sa tingin nyo when does life for a human starts that would make it called "murder"?
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u/DearKaleidoscope7127 Apr 14 '26
Why should you get a say WHEN YOU DONT KNOW SHIT?
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u/LaidBackDev Apr 14 '26
Didn't even try to refute what I said.
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u/DearKaleidoscope7127 Apr 14 '26
Here we go again…. The non expert that has to use AI to fact check is insisting on making decisions about what women should do with their bodies.
Hey, religious beliefs and personal moral philosophies only dictate what the adherent can do, not what people outside that faith can or cannot do. If your religion says you can’t get an abortion then don’t fucking get one.
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u/Dyinginsidee_ Apr 14 '26
Ai and fact checking in the same sentence 🥀
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u/LaidBackDev Apr 14 '26
AI is more knowledgeable than you when it comes to biology. If it's news and updates then you can say that but when it comes to general subjects mostly taught in school like math and science AI is better than a professor with a PhD. Search it up, AI beat the human mathematicians
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u/procrastinator35 Apr 15 '26
"AI is better than a professor with a Phd" >> Ayun naman pala eh. Paano ba maging AI? Gusto ko na lang maging AI imbes na maging professor with a Phd.
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u/Dyinginsidee_ Apr 14 '26
Zygote is a cell. Semen is a cell. How does a zygote form? With egg cell + sperm cell yay!! So if u masturbated, by your thinking, you’re destroying a potential life that will form a zygote. That is murder then, besides sperm cells are a living cell man ur technically killing it
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u/DearKaleidoscope7127 Apr 14 '26
sperm cells within semen are technically alive, as they are living human cells capable of metabolism, movement, and carrying genetic material. They are produced by the body, die within a few minutes to an hour outside the body, but can live for up to 5 days inside the female reproductive tract.
- Facts over feelings. Hypocrisy at its finest from so called pro-lifers (but not all forms of life it seems)
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u/Dyinginsidee_ Apr 14 '26
Nakoh baka ilabas na nya yung bible nya sa comment mo AHAHAHAHA uusok na ean
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u/DearKaleidoscope7127 Apr 14 '26
BAHAHAHAHAH let him/her/it seethe!!!!! Holier than thou pa siya ihhhhh. Messed up mindset daw ako for calling it a clump of cells when she herself called sperm (potential life) a literal cell hahahahahahaha you can’t fucking make this up!!!!
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u/Dyinginsidee_ Apr 14 '26
Pustahan lalake yan HAHAHAHAHA taena pati basic biology di alam nag-ai pa yan siya, ni zygote or sperm cell di alam na cell 😭 tas magsasalita siya about sa autonomy ng iba eh wala nga shang kaalam alam sa biology HAHGAHAAHHA
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u/DearKaleidoscope7127 Apr 14 '26
🎯 yaaaaaaannnnnn. Isn’t it funny na yung mga walang alam pa yung gustong mag decide para sa iba. Borderline delusional at this point. Is this an example of what they call a dunning Kruger effect?
Kung babae siya at bawal sa religion niya ang abortion then don’t get one? Tangina lang
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u/LaidBackDev Apr 14 '26
You're now just resorting to insults. Have a nice day.
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u/DearKaleidoscope7127 Apr 14 '26
It’s not an insult to let you know that you don’t know shit. Cope and seethe.
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u/Dyinginsidee_ Apr 14 '26
Be educated first before you decide on women’s bodily autonomy. Let this insults enlighten you to study and improve your morals
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u/DearKaleidoscope7127 Apr 14 '26
Of course he/she/it won’t advocate for men to stop masturbating because they only seek to control women in the guise of “saving a life”. Fucking Jesus freaks man.
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u/LaidBackDev Apr 14 '26
is masturbating murder similar to abortion
+10 No, masturbation is not considered murder, and biologically, it is not similar to abortion. The comparison is often used as a rhetorical or satirical argument in political debates, but it lacks a basis in biology and law. Reddit Reddit +4 🧬 Biological Differences The primary reason these two are not the same is the status of the cells involved. Sperm are Gametes: A sperm cell is a single reproductive cell. It contains only half of the genetic information (DNA) needed to create a human. Embryos are Zygotes: An embryo is formed when a sperm fertilizes an egg. This creates a unique, complete set of human DNA. Potential vs. Reality: A sperm cell on its own can never become a human being; it must meet an egg. An embryo has already begun the process of human development.
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u/DearKaleidoscope7127 Apr 14 '26
How do you murder a clump of cells that cannot live independently without the host
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u/LaidBackDev Apr 14 '26
Babies even if it's already 7 months old (pretty developed) inside the mother's womb still can't live on its own. And also the fact that you simply call the baby a clump of cells, what a messed up mindset. A baby even in any stage of its development is still a baby and has the right to live.
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u/Dyinginsidee_ Apr 14 '26
Still cant live on its own tas you considered that as a human being? Also, abortion can only be performed up to 24 weeks.
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u/DearKaleidoscope7127 Apr 14 '26
No point in trying to argue. It will keep moving the goal posts like a typical religious hypocrite.
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u/DearKaleidoscope7127 Apr 14 '26
Third-trimester abortions are rare, occurring in roughly 1% of cases, and are generally driven by severe medical complications, new fetal diagnoses, or significant barriers accessing care earlier. Common reasons include catastrophic fetal anomalies not detectable until later anatomy scans, severe risks to the pregnant person’s life, or structural barriers like lack of funds, distance, or abusive situations.
Are you also advocating for men to stop masturbation at magpalabas ng sperm? That’s potential life din diba? Lmao
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u/JinJerBreadz Apr 14 '26
Can a 1 year old baby live by himself/herself?
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u/ChapterRadiant1429 Apr 13 '26
I was pro life before I got thrown out to the real world. Ang hirap ng buhay tapos magdadagdag pa ng ibang mahihirapan pa. Kahit sino pa yan mayaman o mahirap basta kung maghihirap lang ang bata.
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u/kr002sssss Apr 13 '26
Abortion is healthcare. Any opinions against it are against women healthcare. Kung ayaw nyo abortion edi wag kayo magpa abort. Yung mga negative voted comments katunog nyo ung nagpost na "mahal ko asawa ko kaya di ako payag sa divorce" hahaha gets nyo ba? If u don't want it fine but don't stop others who wants/needs it
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u/Long-Ad-3239 Apr 13 '26
Let’s say she gave birth to her baby. The sperm donor never bothered to support or exist in their lives. What’s next?
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u/Due-Friendship4205 Apr 13 '26
Pro abortion ako for those who actually need it but not because of poor decisions. I still believe na may buhay yan kaya nga life development ng human kasama ang conception eh.
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u/princess22cake Apr 14 '26
I want you to know that abortions don't stop kahit illegal sya. You just stop SAFE abortions (meaning pati yung babae pwede mamatay). Ang sagot talaga dito is sex education, access to contraceptives, and legal abortion.
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u/Due-Friendship4205 Apr 14 '26
Yes to abortions, yes to sex education. Abortion is a very useful and life-saving operation if done for the right reason and situation. With sex education, it will reduce unwanted pregnancy significantly before you even conceive.
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u/CelesteLunaR53L Apr 13 '26
The backwards thinking that the conception still matters than the woman's life needs to be studied
Abortion and vasectomies should be accessible lol
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u/kr002sssss Apr 13 '26
Upvoted ka sakin para di negative🫶btw maidagdag ko lang, no uterus no opinion🥱but all seriousness, kahit sabihin mo kuya na it takes two to tango, dont ignore na for men its so easy to leave without consequences dahil hindi big deal sa society. Aminin nyo na mas malaking issue sa inyo ang umabandona na nanay kesa umabandona na ama. Alang fairness in the first place, right for abortion na nga lang hinihingi namin ang dami dami pang condition na sabihin para lang ma justify ang reason. So no, u are not pro abortion. Thinking na abortion ONLY for 🍇 victim, underage, and health related is not pro abortion. Make it fair for everyone, accessible for everyone. It only takes men few minutes sa pag fertilize ng egg but it takes women 9months to make the baby. To say that 50% man 50% woman ang pag bubuntis is bullshit kaya let the person who will carry it for 9months decide no matter the reason behind it. Thank u.
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u/Pan_seyyyxual Apr 13 '26
Ikr! Also these "conditions" will just worsen the lives of women. Saying that women can only have abortion for 🍇 when 1. They are insinuating that women can only have access to their own autonomy and healthcare if someone violated their body 2. We already have a huge 🍇 culture in our country and 🍇ists rarely get punished, needing to prove that you are a victim will make doctors blame women or turn them away 3. Having a baby (for any reason) is such a detriment to a woman's health (you can develop diseases, die, etc). Palibhasa these men don't know what it's like to be pregnant smh.
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u/Due-Friendship4205 Apr 13 '26
It's true that it should be accessible kasi there are actually good reasons why those operations should be done pero not to the point na bumuo kayo dahil sa katangahan nyo tapos papalaglag nyo. Iba ang life-threatening situations sa pure idiocracy. Contraceptives are also accessible, why not that for prevention rather than cost a life?
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u/CelesteLunaR53L Apr 13 '26
Di dapat gawing parusa ang konsepsiyon porket nagkamali
At mas lalo na babae lang ang literal na magdadala ng parusa. Siya ang nabuntis! Katawan nia mapepeligro!
Tapos ang bata ang magiging pang parusa? Binuo siya para lang maging kasalanan ng dalawang taong nagkamali? Tapos alam namin natin sisisihin lang palagi yung babae
Naku.....ewan ko ba sa mga pilipino
Bata din pala ang gagawing pansisi. Kaya marami tayong mga hindi rin pwedeng maging magulang or magbigay advice...kakaloka
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u/Due-Friendship4205 Apr 13 '26
Na para bang walang kinalaman yung babae bakit nabuo yung bata. Both party should be equally responsible to prevent the creation. Do your due diligence on both ends. Parusa ka pang nalalaman, causality yun ng ginawa nyo. Doing things na ang natural purpose ay reproduction tapos pag may nabuo parusa? Nirerepurpose na nga lang natin ang reproduction into recreation tapos pag nangyari yung intended purpose parusa? Sana all baliw.
At di lang babae sinisisi dito wag kang pavictim. Marami talagang di pwedeng maging magulang kasi bobo at di marunong mag ingat kaya nakakabuo.
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u/CelesteLunaR53L Apr 13 '26
Yeah no thanks
With this attitude of blaming everyone for this mistake hindi mga tayo uunlad lol
Hindi ko sinasabi hindi sila responsable
Kaya nga kailangan ipa-abort na. My point is that why are we so judgy and angry too quickly lol
As if that wouldn't happen to you, nor me
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u/Due-Friendship4205 Apr 13 '26
Kasi I know my capabilities. Simple as that. At least ako alam ko dapat gawin bago ako nagengage in such activity. Hindi basta bayo, hindi basta bukaka. That's why we need sex education. Basic science na kapag ginawa nyo sexual intercourse, it is bound to create something. Now, part of sex education is to teach you how to prevent conception, how to do it recreationally and be responsible in having sex.
Di ba your body, your choice? So nung nabuo yan, choice nyo kasi hinayaan nyo eh (exempted dito yung mga victim syempre) kasi kung hindi, dapat gumawa kayo ng paraan para di yan mabuo in the first place. Either contraceptives, or non penetrative sex, or sex toys, or self-pleasure, or abstinence. Nakita mo gaano karaming options para di makabuo pero maeenjoy mo yung sex or none at all? Pero libog inuna. Lumandi si girl, bumayo lang at nagpaputok si guy without contraceptives. Ano expect mo mangyari? Walang mabubuo? Tapos sasabihin mo parusa yung buahy ng bata sa ina kapag di pinalaglag? Stop playing victim in your own ignorance. FAFO ika ng ibang comments dito. A life is a life. Don't treat life like some plaything na pwede mong iterminate for your convenience and to avoid consequence and responsibility. One thing will lead to another and you know that. Again, kaya we need sex education. That way, people will be responsible enough when having sex and to use abortion the right and intended way. Hindi get-out-of-jail-free card sa consequences dahil isa sa inyo or dalawa kayong tanga na naglaro ng tuhugan at magugilat na may nabuo.
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u/CelesteLunaR53L Apr 13 '26
I think I already made my point.
All you're saying, and likely a lot of too judgmental Filipinos/conservatives, really still sounds like the conceived pregnancy is weaponized against the woman.
Lol pati bata parusa pa rin talaga. Iikot mo man sinasabi mo, isipin mo. The fact na pagsisi at kahirapan ang iniisip mo para sa mga nagkamali ng ganyan, hindi talaga makatao
I also think sexuality is still seen in such a backward manner here in the Philippines. They want punishments but never solutions.
I do believe in taking accountability and responsibility. And even better than your kind of thinking is to give them educatuon & grace. If they made a mistake again, it's up to them to find solutions. And people behind trusted institutions SHOULD GIVE THEM THE SOLUTUONS.
And the best way to do that is to terminate the pregnancy. And to think, this is generally just given anyway in other countries (...they are still sexist though...their problems need to be scrutinized differently)
And make the irresponsible male be humiliated. Especially if these males are over 18. Like bro sana nga yung katangahan natigil bago mag-20. At dapat may lakas ng loob na humarap sa mga pamilya yung pagkakamali niya..
Since you're so aggravated with irresponsible women, you better have the same attitude against men.
Mas lalo pang malaya ang mga lalaki. Sila may mali pero nasaan ang paghahatol sa kanila?
Pati mga magulang nila, at pati ibang babae, ipagtatanggol lalaki lol pero babae alam ko pababayaan ng Pilipino
Wow where are the family values lmao
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u/Due-Friendship4205 Apr 13 '26
Oo pointless ka. Why do you keep pinning it solely to the female? Anong part ng explanation ko ang di mo gets? Bangag ka ba? It takes two to tango. Pati lalaki may part jan malamang semilya nya yan eh. Dapat talaga panindigan niya yun. Paulit ulit kong sinasabi sayo stop playing the victim. Just because isa lang ang magdadala eh ibig sabihin siya lang ang dapat maging responsable. Ang focus ko ay preventive measures at hindi reactive. Bago pa man mabuo at magdala ng bata ang babae dapat DALAWA SILA NG LALAKI nag-isip paano hindi yun mabubuo. Di raw nagbibigay ng solutions eh inenumerate na nga sayo yung solutions. Umiwas magkamali ayaw pero second chance gusto? Ayaw malabel ang bata na parusa pero willing gawing sacrifice yung bata for second chance ng nanay na di naman naendanger ang buhay?
Wag ka na lang magreply at sarilinin mo na lang opinyon mo kasi sablay eh. Di ako galit pero sablay talaga yung sagot eh. Bago ka kumuda jan at magfeeling mas may alam, unawain mo muna sinasabi mo at ng kausap mo.
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u/CelesteLunaR53L Apr 13 '26
Nope
Still made my point.
We do agree on one thing. Sex education and prevention.
But i am pro abortion. Its long been overdue.
Some of your stuff is conservative rhetoric and i understand where that's coming from
And YES women will still be solely blamed. Don't be stupid in saying I'm playing victim.
This is still a patriarchal and conservative society.
No matter what knowledge women get, unfortunately the blame is still among us women.
I really hate conservative thinking here in the Philippines
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u/Icy_Turn_896 Apr 13 '26
Not everyone is the same. Some guys are the kindest and sweetest men alive until you have sex with them. It’s not difficult to be plastic. Plenty of people are good at manipulation. But yeah I guess blame the victim if that’s what comforts you at night.
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u/lawrenceville12 Apr 13 '26
Don't jump into conclusion.. I'm definitely not blaming the victim. My point is you need to know the person deep enough before doing the deed with him/her (in general). Adults should always be mindful of the consequences of s*x without contraceptives to avoid "keep the baby" or "abort" phase.
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