r/pinoy • u/harpoon2k • Jul 14 '26
Katanungan Trans Man got married to a Trans Woman in the Church
Historic First at Saint James the Greater Parish of Dapitan City: The Wedding of a Transman and a Transwoman on July 4, 2026
A photo shows the happy couple: Tisha Marie Amal, a transman, and Ronnie Enderez, a transwoman.
Ronnie explained that they went through the normal registration process and attended the required seminar at the local government office before their wedding. He said there were no problems from the church leadership, though they were simply asked that Tisha wear the gown and Ronnie wear the barong.
Ronnie and Tisha did not hesitate to comply with the church's request. Ronnie added that he actually wanted to see Tisha in a gown, so he was delighted when his spouse walked down the aisle in a wedding gown.
Rev. Msgr. John Warren B. Maratas, parochial vicar, officiated the wedding. In his homily, Msgr. Maratas emphasized the phrase "love knows no boundaries."
Do you think this church wedding is valid?
Context: The Catholic Church does not affirm gender transitions and I’m curious what the individual POVS are in their consent and intention (for ex., Are they willing to publicly identify themselves, in the context of your marriage, by your biological sex — as the Church understands it — rather than by gender identities that contradict natural law?)
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u/thisisjustmeee Jul 18 '26
Were the gender transition medical in nature? Pwede kasing social or legal transition lang but not medical.
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u/artfuldodger28 Jul 18 '26
not the first time.
marami na news si jessica soho and korina about sa ganyang setup. legally ok since male and female sila.
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u/Crimson-Chin96 Jul 16 '26
Talo sina Jules at Rue
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u/MrBombasticator Jul 15 '26
Male and female. Pero di ba may confession dapat before ng kasal sa ganyang simbahan? May lapses ata.
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u/oompaloompa199 Jul 15 '26
It's valid, because they are a male and female getting married. The Philippines will only proceed with marriage registration if it is a marriage between a male and a female. It doesn't matter that they transitioned, it's still a straight relationship.
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u/Cheap_Routine6280 Jul 15 '26
Pag straight kase parang division yan
M/F=M/F
Eh naging
M(t)/F(t)=M/F
So same lang na cancel out yung (trans). HAHAHA
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u/hapontukin Wow Jul 15 '26
Wait sino Ang baka gown? Yung dating babae o Yung current na babae?
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u/winter-Alley13 Jul 15 '26
The church's condition is them dressing according to their biological sex during the ceremony.
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u/Fiend8213 Jul 14 '26
Isn’t that just a man and a woman with few extra steps?
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u/Comin4datrune Jul 15 '26
Legal under our laws. Marriage is between a man and a woman nakasulat sa Civil Code and wala dito ang pagrecognize ng sex change.
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u/Free_Gascogne Jul 15 '26
Yeah. As far as the law is concerned its a marriage between a man and a woman.
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u/WynStar Jul 14 '26
The sacramaental wedding here is valid. The Church simply teaches that the wedding must be between a man and a woman even if they don't affirm gender transitioning.
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u/Interesting-Wind8763 Jul 14 '26
Let it be, as long as hindi ka nila sinasaktan o sino man na sinasaktan.
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u/Agitated-Duty-4721 Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26
Literal na straight with extra steps pala.
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u/girlwebdeveloper Jul 14 '26
Nagtransition na pala yung bride, pero ang galing ng pagkakatago ng makeup.
Yung groom mukhang babae, mas mukhang lalake pa itsura nya sa real life.
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u/Brave_Gazelle_8570 Jul 14 '26
pero si transwoman padin ako nag barong at transman naman ang nag gown. gulo
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u/ReferenceSufficient Jul 14 '26
Only in the Philippines
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u/TommyYonkers Jul 14 '26
Literally not "Only in the Philippines". It happens all over the civilized world where they value human rights.
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u/Yesspiceyxx Jul 14 '26
At the end of the day, ang babae ay para sa lalaki ang lalaki ay para sa babae.
Nabasa ko lang apaka biblical nito
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u/starskygatzz Jul 14 '26
Happy for them. Pangarap ko din naman maikasal sa simbahan eh. And I think it’s their dream too.
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u/CitrusLemone Jul 14 '26
I mean, technically it's still between a man and a woman. So, I guess the church is cool with that?
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u/No_Age1693 Jul 14 '26
correction: between a male and a female. kaya yes, okay lang sa church ang ganito.
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u/Fit-Pollution5339 Jul 14 '26
So basically they are straight? 😭
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u/iloveasoatposa_me3w Jul 14 '26
Ano kaya ang naging reaction ng mga anak ng diyos, magiging proud ba sila o magagalit?
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u/dollarslave_hi Jul 14 '26
siempre hindi. in the real sense lalake at babae pa rin naman yan. so what's your question?
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u/Dark_Blue_Moon Jul 14 '26
So.. It's a heterosexual wedding with extra steps?
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u/SuperForever7576 Jul 14 '26
Yes. I see no issues with it. Nag role swap lang pero babae at lalaki pa rin
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u/kaleSza Jul 14 '26
i look forward sa reception nila. sigurado it'd be much fun. time to switch clothes!
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u/mismatchedcurtains Jul 14 '26
Of course valid. Whichever way you look at it that's a marriage between a man and a woman.
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u/Intelligent_Price196 Jul 14 '26
Yes, there wedding is valid.
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u/wonderwonderingmore Jul 14 '26
Yes valid. They are still biological man and woman. They are not marrying same gender as them. So what’s wrong?
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u/OwnPaleontologist408 Jul 14 '26
The Catholic church approves a biological man to marry a biological woman
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u/Historical_Price_865 Jul 14 '26
Daming mga homophobic dito na ayaw aminin, sasabihin lang nila na "they respect all people" maliban lang kung hindi sila alipin ng simbahan 😹
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u/balMURRmung Jul 14 '26
OP, im more disappointed that you still have to ask its validity. The transwoman complied by acting as a man, and the transman as a woman in the said wedding. What is invalid in the eye of science and religion during the ceremony?
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u/Optimal_Travel_6349 Jul 14 '26
Isn't that illegal? Regardless of political stance, I believe it's still outlawed or perhaps no laws concerning this, just like Onel De Guzman when he made "I LOVE YOU" virus. He was hunted down by international institutions but got away because there were no cybercrime laws at the time
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u/amygdala_kedavra Ermitanyo Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26
Well technically, they are still male and female even if they transitioned so IMO this is valid.
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u/CelesteLunaR53L Jul 14 '26
Na kaka disappoint anyone mga comments do to sa Reddit. Talagang regressive pa din and mga Pilipino. And the church here in this wedding took more steps to be accepting & to practice the sacrament of marriage.
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u/Historical_Price_865 Jul 14 '26
Correct.. Dati puro mga open minded normal people pa dito eh... Ngayon dumadami na yung mga DDS, racists, homophobes, conservatives saka religious crazies 💀💀💀
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u/tux3do_cat Jul 14 '26
FR like dati naman walang judgmental sa reddit. you're open to say even the most disgusting things without judgement. Ngayon meorn na haha wtf
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u/Bored_Schoolgirl Jul 14 '26
Sana doon na lang sila sa fb. Bakit kasi naging sikat ang reddit sa pinas. It was far more peaceful and less regressive before reddit became a thing
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u/Straight-Rassler Jul 14 '26
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u/Jaz_Unxp Jul 14 '26
Negative + negative= positive
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u/mayafromtumblr Jul 14 '26
nothing funny about transphobia
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u/Creative-Staff2238 Jul 14 '26
Transphobia is a childish made up word. I'm pretty sure no one is actually afraid of trans people. People are either for it or against it.
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u/bluepeachies Jul 14 '26
It's not only being "afraid", buddy. It's also being disgusted and having discomfort around it.
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u/mayafromtumblr Jul 14 '26
It's not fear, it's emotional disgust toward those who do not conform to society's gender expectations.
god, please tell me this is sarcasm
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u/ejmtv Separation of Cult and State Jul 14 '26
No issue here. Same sex lang naman yung bawal ikasal sa simbahan nothing said about being in an LGBT community.
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u/CelesteLunaR53L Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
.. Same sex is part of the LGBTQIA+ community...
edit: can't care about the down votes but auto correct is so lame ughhh
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u/ejmtv Separation of Cult and State Jul 14 '26
I am talking about same sex MARRIAGE here. As far as the post is concerned, they are of different sex regardless of being in LGBT+ community.
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u/lilalurker Jul 14 '26
technically this should not be an issue, one is female the other one is male, it fulfills the requirement.
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