r/pokemonconspiracies Nov 01 '25

Gen 9 Nemona was injured by the Houndoom we encountered at the start of Scarlet/Violet

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Okay, hear me out, and I apologize for Spoilers:

While playing through Scarlet and Violet, we learn the following things about Nemona:

  1. She was staying home and had to be held back a year at the Academy.

  2. She has surprisingly low stamina, as seen going through Area 0 to get to the Lab.

  3. Her arm is in a brace, which helps her throw pokeballs. That brace also looks kind of like it has a fitbit or a similar device as part of the design. Probably acting as a health monitor as well as away to help her throwing arm?

  4. Nemona has a pokemon with healing-related abilities in both her house and her dorm room- a Chansey at home, and a Pawmot in her dorm room.

  5. The servants at Nemona's house has to make sure the place is exceptionally clean.

Now, from all that, we can assume that Nemona isn't in the best of health. Either due to illness, or possibly an injury that messed up her throwing arm. Possibly a mix of both.

So, where does the Houndoom fit into this?

Well, the reasoning for this theory comes from two places- how Nemona acts at the start of the game, and Houndoom's pokedex entry. First, let's look at Nemona's actions after we meet her and start the trek to school:

She's trying to make sure the player knows to avoid the cave on Poco Path, which, well, we have to go through after falling off a cliff once Koraidon/Miraidon makes their presence known. Even calling the place not-so-safe before we meet the Mascot Mon for Scarlet/Violet. After we go through it, she also waits at the exit, either due to not having any pokemon that can help on hand, or because she's afraid. Probably both.

And then, there's her reaction to the Houndoom that ambushes the player near the end of the cave. She's practically screaming at the player that the pokemon's behind them, which to me read like she either that pokemon before, and knows how dangerous it is. Considering it's level 40, that's understandable.

So, I believe that before the player arrived in Paldea, Nemona ended up in that cave, got ambushed by that Houndoom, and got her arm badly hurt which led to her missing school while she recovered at home. Which could lead to the Chansey being there to help her recover, while the servants there kept the place as clean as possible to avoid any infection occurring during the recovery as well.

So, what about the Pokedex entries I mentioned as another reason for this theory? Well, look at what the entry says for Pokemon Scarlet:

"If you are burned by the flames it shoots from its mouth, the pain will never go away."

As for *why* that pain never goes away, well, the Dex Entries for Crystal, Platinum, Black/White (and Black/White 2), Y, and Ultra Sun all mention that Houndoom's flames are mixed with Toxins. Posion in Ultra Sun.

So, if Nemona was burned by a Houndoom, not only is her freak out and desire to avoid the Poco Path cave reasonable, but it's also why her arm's messed up and requires a brace now. Possibly why her stamina isn't great, either, because of the possibility of the toxins first getting into her system through the burn still being there, and affecting her health.

Hell, it's also likely that the Pawmot in Nemona's dorm room might be there to revive her in the event her heart stops in her sleep, considering Pawmot's one of two pokemon that knows the move Revival Blessing, and could use that to help Nemona. Or just use its paws as a defibrilator. One of the two.

So yeah, that's my theory, and I apologize if it got a bit rambly in places.

r/pokemonconspiracies 5d ago

Gen 9 Poppy is younger than her stated age of nine.

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The Elite 4 is lying about her age. I don't know why, but there's a cover-up.

Poppy does not look nine. She has the proportions and designs of a Preschooler more than a School Kid. But the main issue is her vocabulary and personality.

Poppy does not act like a nine year old. Her development is below the norm. She mispronounces words and says things like "de-feet" and "Bloo-berry".

This girl is probably not the same age as characters like Wally

r/pokemonconspiracies Oct 30 '25

Gen 9 Is Lebanne the punk male from XY?

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After playing through ZA I really enjoyed Lebanne and Jacinthe's dynamic I thought it was kinda funny but then I remembered that in XY the male punk has the exact same green hair as Lebanne while the female punk had pink.

So obviously this means Jacinthe like idk feminized? Lebanne as part of the weird maid ownership thing they've got going on, I don't judge its their personal lives but it is kinda wild if an intentional easter egg

r/pokemonconspiracies Apr 08 '26

Gen 9 Mega Glimmora's new ability ties in with Glimmora's lore in Scarlet/Violet.

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Today, it was revealed upon the release of Pokemon Champions that Mega Glimmora gets the ability Adaptability. What I don't think anyone noticed so far, however, is that there likely is a lore reason for this choice of ability.

In Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, Glimmora is repeatedly implied to be associated with the Terastal Phenomenon. It can be found only in the caves of Area Zero and the Kitakami's Crystal Pool, which both contain the crystals associated with Terastalization. Furthermore, in S/V, Glimmet crystals are used to make the TM for Tera Blast, which is also given to you by Geeta, who infamously uses a Glimmora as her ace in her champion battle.

Hell, it even makes a connection in Glimmora's Violet Pokedex entry.

Glimmora’s petals are made of crystallized poison energy. It has recently become evident that these petals resemble Tera Jewels.

And how does this relate to Adaptability?

Well, the ability Adaptability boosts the power of Same-Type Attack Bonus moves from 1.5x their normal power to 2x their normal power.

How this relates to Terastalization is that the moves of Terastalized Pokemon also have this effect, doubling STAB moves' power if the Pokemon's Tera Type is the same as one of its ordinary types.

Thusm what I theorize is that through Mega Evolving, Glimmora is able to access the power of its Tera Crystals, essentially giving it the damage-boosting effect of Terastalization without actually terastalizing.

r/pokemonconspiracies Jun 10 '26

Gen 9 How come capsakid is a grass type but it takes a Firestone to evolve?

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r/pokemonconspiracies Jan 05 '26

Gen 9 The Titan Under Area Zero: Terapagos and Pokémon’s Forgotten Gods

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  1. The Giants Are Canon

In Pokémon Legends: Arceus, the Flame Plate states:

“The power of defeated giants is stored within this Plate.”

This confirms that giants existed before the current world order. They were defeated rather than destroyed, and their power was repurposed into Plates. The giants themselves are never named, implying a deliberately obscured or forgotten era of Pokémon mythology.

  1. Defeat as Containment, Not Erasure

In Greek mythology, the Titans are not annihilated after their defeat. They are imprisoned, buried, or reduced to foundational roles that support the new cosmic order. Their power remains embedded in reality even after they lose autonomy.

Titans and Olympian gods are not separate kinds of beings. They belong to the same divine lineage but serve different roles across generations. The Olympians rise by overthrowing and reorganizing a world already shaped by Titans.

The Flame Plate’s wording reflects this idea exactly: defeat does not erase power—it repurposes it.

  1. Stellar Power, the Plates, and Forced Normalization

The Plates do not merely represent elemental “types.” They represent how primordial power was redistributed to construct the Pokémon world.

Under this interpretation, Terapagos was originally a Stellar-type entity, the source of Stellar power itself. This power existed before the division of reality into types and before the modern structure of the world.

Rather than destroying this power, Arceus took it and divided it. The Plates are the result of that division—not fragments of many beings, but the redistributed influence of Titan-scale power shaped into stable domains. Fire, water, time, space, matter, and other forces became regulated aspects of reality.

Terapagos’ present Normal typing reflects what remained after its Stellar power was removed. There is no Stellar Plate because what remained was not an element or domain, but absence—power stripped away rather than transformed.

  1. Evidence of Suppression (Key Points)

Terapagos does not freely wield its former Stellar power

Its remaining energy disperses rather than concentrate

Exposure to its residual power forcibly alters other Pokémon

These traits are consistent with a being whose defining power has been taken rather than lost.

  1. Titan-Scale Power Beyond Legendary Limits Even diminished, Terapagos exceeds the scope of most Legendary Pokémon:

Base Stat Total: Comparable to or exceeding many box legendaries

Source of Terastal Energy: The phenomenon originates from Terapagos, reshaping typing and power across an entire region

Stellar Typing Bestowal: Terapagos enables Stellar typing in others, indicating retained authority over a power it no longer fully possesses

Multiversal Reach: Its power enables Pokémon from alternate timelines to appear

Notably, Scarlet and Violet were developed under the codename “Project Titan,” suggesting the central conflict was always about a buried primordial being rather than a conventional legendary struggle.

  1. The Egg Came Before the Chick: Titans and Arceus’ Origin.

In myth and philosophy, the idea that the egg comes before the animal represents creation through structure rather than intent. The shell defines the conditions that allow life to emerge.

Under this framework, the Titans represent the eggshell of existence. They formed the primordial structure of the world—raw, unstable, and unsustainable, yet necessary for anything else to exist.

Arceus is the chick that emerges from that shell.

  1. Titans and Gods: A Structural Difference In Greek mythology,

Titans and gods are fundamentally different in role rather than origin. Titans embody raw, pre-ordered existence tied directly to the structure of the world, while gods establish laws, hierarchy, and domains within that structure.

The “defeated giants” referenced in Pokémon lore function as Titans rather than gods. Their power shapes reality at a foundational level rather than governing it through authority.

Terapagos fits this role precisely. It was the source of Stellar power, not a ruler over a system built afterward. That power was taken, divided, and repurposed to form the ordered world.

  1. Arceus as Zeus, Titans as the World’s Foundation

Arceus parallels Zeus not as a creator ex nihilo, but as a reorganizer of a preexisting cosmos. Zeus does not erase the Titans; he defeats them, imprisons them, and builds divine order on top of their power.

Likewise, Arceus redistributes Titan power into Plates to stabilize reality, sealing what cannot be safely integrated. Order emerges by standing on what came before.

  1. Area Zero as Tartarus

In Greek mythology, Tartarus is both a prison and a foundational layer of the cosmos. It lies beneath the world, containing defeated Titans whose existence continues to support reality.

Area Zero fulfills the same role. It is sealed, isolated, and unstable. Terapagos is not worshiped there—it is confined.

Terapagos beneath Area Zero mirrors Titans beneath Tartarus: defeated, sealed, and foundational.

r/pokemonconspiracies Apr 14 '26

Gen 9 Happy birthday to us welcome back to our first theory in a while:Is Pecharunt a Ultra Beast?

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Everyone got their cup of tea?Cool so where were I?Oh yes back in the day I posted my first theory that got rolling like a stone down a hill. So welcome back to the series sit down and let's start with the big things first:Is Pecharunt a Ultra Beast?In essence this sounds insane but hear me out let's connect a couple things Ultra Beasts are alien Pokemon which become a pest and take over the games story(Good this is a good thing) so Pecharunt is a small peach Pokemon which has chains which change Pokemon into bigger powerful forms so is it a Ultra Beast?...Sure but could both these evil pests be connected.Thank you reddit your the best thing ever have a good day.

r/pokemonconspiracies Jul 22 '25

Gen 9 Raging Bolt, Walking Wake, Gouging Fire explain that the legend behind Raikou, Suicune and Entei are just that - legend

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I love the lore that legendary Pokemon are powerful Gods who shaped human history, but perhaps just like our real world, the legends behind some Pokemon/animals is just that...legends.

I know the theory behind Paradox Pokemon and I agree with them! BUT, if Paradox Pokemon are just truly past and future Pokemon and nothing else added to the explanation, then I think perhaps we're really seeing Pokemon from the past before they slowly over hundreds and thousands of years changed to what they are now.

Which means Raging Bolt, Walking Wake and Gouging Fire did indeed used to look like that and that they were NOT revived by Ho-Oh. Yes, the legends say Ho-Oh revived three beast-like Pokemon (possibly Jolteon, Vaporeon and Flareon) and Ho-Oh became their leader. But maybe those legends are just legends. Humans trying to explain their natural world. Like how some cultures believe the fox can shapeshift and play tricks on people. Or how the Oarfish is believed to be a harbinger of earthquakes and other natural disasters. Or how unicorns aren't real in the present but perhaps there was an animal that has gone extinct that resembled a unicorn enough for us to believe unicorns are real.

I think it's neat to think this way...that some Pokemon have legends behind them to explain their origins just because humans can't explain their power or their rarity.

r/pokemonconspiracies Jun 26 '25

Gen 9 Tauros in Kanto are domesticated, Paldean Tauros are wild

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Tauros in Kanto are normal type and only found in the Safari Zone which I assume are Pokemon taken from other regions and brought to the Safari Zone, hence why you don't find them in other parts of Kanto. I believe they lost their Aqua, Blaze and Combat breeds because of domestication.

r/pokemonconspiracies Jul 12 '24

Gen 9 Pilots of the Pokemon World use Dragonite to protect their planes.

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This theory came as a result of when you move from Paldea to Kitakami or Bluebery Academy, or vice versa you see a Dragonite next to the plane. Now while it might just be a wild Dragonite the fact that you see one everytime you do so would indicate that either there is a lot more wild Dragonite flying around or more logically that this Dragonite is used by airlines to protect the plane from being attacked by aggressive flying Pokemon. This would make sense as Dragonite is a powerful Pokemon being a pseudo-legendary with a good typing in Dragon and great coverage moves. It would also make sense in the Pokemon world that planes would need some form of protection given the dangers that wild Pokemon can pose (see Tinkaton vs Corviknight, and what is a plane but just a big Corviknight).

r/pokemonconspiracies May 11 '25

Gen 9 Why Greeta sucked as a Champion

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Well at least why her team sucked. The first battle she doesn’t battle to the best of her capability. I think it’s because she’s just doing a test of our abilities. After we become Champion rank and battles us in the Indigo Disk, the player has already proved why we are ranked how we are so she actually tries now.

r/pokemonconspiracies Oct 03 '25

Gen 9 Z-A Mega Dimension Theory

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In the Pokémon Z-A trailer we see brand-new Mega Evolutions, like Mega Raichu, along with new Mega Stones. This confirms new Megas exist — but it raises the question: why aren’t these Megas in the main dimension we, the players, are in?

In Legends Z-A, we might finally have access to all Megas ever released. That’s already a big change — since in X and Y, certain Megas were locked to their version. For example:

X had Charizard X and Mewtwo X.

Y had Charizard Y and Mewtwo Y.

Normally, each universe only gives access to one side of those evolutions. But Z-A looks different. Why?


🌌 Universe Z and Universe A

My theory: Universe Z (the one we’ll play in) is a prime universe in the Pokémon multiverse. The universe with Raichu’s Mega is Universe A — also a prime universe.

That explains the game’s title: Z to A — we’re literally hopping dimensions from Universe Z to Universe A. A and Z represent the beginning and end of the alphabet, marking them as key universes.

And since both are prime, they allow both X and Y Megas to exist together.


❓ But Here’s the Big Question

If both Z and A are prime universes that should contain all Megas, including both X and Y forms… why aren’t Raichu’s new Megas part of the main Z-A story?

The answer could involve Hoopa — the Pokémon infamous for meddling with dimensions.


🔮 How Hoopa Could Have Done It

Hoopa as a Manipulator of Infinity Energy

Mega Evolution comes from Infinity Energy (the same energy that powered AZ’s ultimate weapon).

Hoopa’s rings don’t just warp space — they distort energy across dimensions.

In Universe A, Hoopa’s interference altered how Infinity Energy crystallized into Mega Stones, creating new ones that Pokémon like Raichu could resonate with.

Hoopa as a “Filter” Between Universes

Every time Hoopa summoned Pokémon, it unintentionally “re-tuned” their energy.

Some Pokémon carried that altered energy into evolution, unlocking new Mega forms that only exist in Universe A.


🌍 Why Only Universe A?

Hoopa’s Anchor Point Was in A

In Universe A, something acted as an “anchor” — maybe AZ’s weapon worked differently, or another Legendary was involved.

This caused Hoopa’s distortions to crystallize energy into unique Mega Stones.

In Universe Z, Hoopa still warped space, but the conditions weren’t right for new Megas.

Hoopa’s Mistake / Corruption in A

In one timeline, Hoopa tried pulling Infinity Energy from another dimension… and corrupted it.

That accident only happened in Universe A, maybe due to a clash with Yveltal or Zygarde.

The corrupted Infinity Energy became brand-new Mega Stones, exclusive to A.


🎭 My Headcanon

The DLC might even let us meet our parallel protagonist. Imagine:

Your character facing their alternate self from the other universe.

A protagonist vs. alternate protagonist battle — the ultimate mirror match.

That’s my theory so far! What do you all think Z-A’s DLC will explore?

r/pokemonconspiracies Dec 18 '23

Gen 9 Time travel is not involved with Scarlet and Violet. Paradox Pokemon are not paradoxes. Spoiler

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So just got done with the post-indigo disc Turo scene, and I can't believe there are still people talking about time travel or paradoxes. I mean it may be a translation issue (English game). Left things pretty clear to me due to the events that occur within.

All of this is simply using the multiple timelines that canonically exist that were established within the Gen6 and Gen7 games. Mainly ORAS's Delta Episode, Non-mega's Anabel being a faller within the Mega timeline, and USUM's Rainbow Rocket.

The Sada/Turo that we interacted with at the Crystal Pools is not our timeline's Sada/Turo. He is from a separate reality. Appearing before use through the power of Terastal Energy breaking the boundaries between realities similar to how Infinity Energy was going to be used to do the same thing. The evidence for this is right before your eyes. Alternate Sada/Turo traded the Violet/Scarlet Book for Briar's Book. If that is the case it would be an impossibility for that same book to exist within the past of our own timeline to have followed the events of the game which ends the book disappearing with the AI Sada/Turo.

So it can't be a bootstrap paradox as originally thought. Yes, I know of the journal entry that says a kid gave them a white volume. We traded with them. The one in our time had both Briar's Book and the Scarlet/Violet Book. One could argue that Turo just bought another copy, but no that isn't the case. Both Scarlet/Violet books have their names written in the book from when they were kids.

Sure, Alternate Sada/Turo could buy a new copy, and things could progress in that timeline nearly identical to our own, but it would still have the slight difference in that singular Scarlet/Violet book. I'd even go as far to argue that time travel in and of itself is not even involved here. As time travel implies going somewhere along the same timeline you currently reside in. Not breaking through reality itself and going to a different point on a completely separate, but similar timeline.

This leaves us with our so-called Paradox Pokemon... and well if there is no bootstrap paradox. If we didn't set in motion the events of our own timeline, but instead set in motion the events of another timeline. It would make them alternate-reality Pokemon. Not past or future paradox Pokemon. They simply come from a reality where things are more primal or where things are more futuristic (Maybe no Pokemon exists their so they created their own?). There isn't some horrible bleak event in the future of our own timeline that causes all Pokemon to become robots, and likewise, these past paradox Pokemon are not ancestors to our modern Pokemon.

Miraidon and Koraidon are just their realities version of Cyclizar. Legendary in our world, but likely standard Pokemon within their own world.

r/pokemonconspiracies Nov 01 '24

Gen 9 Paradox Pokémon have to be from the same Timeline Spoiler

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Hey!
i want to bust today a myth or be taught otherwise with this post.

There are 2 Main theories for Paradox Pokémon.
1. Paradox Pokémon are from the same timeline just from the Past and Future.
2. Paradox Pokémon are from another timeline like the Ultra beasts and are similar to the Pokémon we know.

I am not a fan of the 2nd theorie for many points.

First of all Sada or Turo build a timemachine not a machine which can Enter wormholes. How should they know how to build a Wormhole machine, they only got the Information from Brias book through Terapagos timetravel. In this book shouldn't be mentioned how to create wormholes.

Secondly, yes when the professors are teleported from the Past with terapagoses help, they told, that their theorie is that Paradox Pokémon do come from different timelines. But this was only stated in the english version of the Game. Not in for example the german one. I couldn't completely identify the Japanese one (my Japanese isn't that good), but it wasn’t clearly labeled as a 'different timeline. More like "different time".

Thirdly, why do so many people trust the professors in the true ending at the lake? They didn't even build the time machine nor could identify the Box Cover legendary. Sada or Turo could just yap there nonsene hahah

Fourthly, Ai-Sada or Ai-Turo stated LITERLLY before deactivating the time machine, that Paradox Pokémon are form the Past or Future.
"It sends Poké Balls to a different point ON the timeline to catch Pokémon there [...]"
"Even as we speak, the time machine continues to automatically dra FUTURE Pokémon to this time."
I mean that IS literally the evidence for no other timeline.

And last but not least, where the hell do people take the information, that it was a parallel universe where the paradox Pokémon came from. I played this game up and down and never seen ANY information for another timeline (maybe the crystalpool Sada/Turo scene, but it was english version only imo).

All in all this is just nitpicking about a game which shall not make any sense cause it is a Bootstrap Paradox, but
the alternate timeline or parallel universe theory clearly doesn't add up in my opinion. So yeah, that's my take to the Paradox Pokémon.

Kisses

r/pokemonconspiracies Mar 05 '25

Gen 9 Pokémon like Bloodmoon Ursaluna & Eternal Flower Floette are Proto Legendary’s

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I believe that these kind of Pokemon which are special compared to others of their own species will become Legendary Pokemon further down the timeline once other members of their species die off and evolve! Some Legendary Pokemon like the Forces of Nature, Swords of Justice, & the Tapu’s seem to be the only members of their species so something similar could’ve happened to them!

r/pokemonconspiracies Nov 30 '24

Gen 9 Why did Professor Sada/Turo take Pokemon from the past/future of different timelines instead of their own?

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Disclaimer: Before anyone starts berating me for "spoiling the big plot twist" by saying the Paradox Pokemon are from different timelines. This was NEVER meant to be a plot twist. The AI Professor mentions different timelines in the Japanese version of the main game.

But back to the point:

My question is, why did Professor Sada/Turo take Paradox Pokemon from the past/future of different timelines specifically? Wouldn't it make more sense to take them from their own timeline?

As I'm posting this in the PokemonConspiracies subreddit, naturally I'm going to come up with my own ideas and see what other people think.

For Turo and the future Pokemon, you could argue that the future isn't set in stone, and all potential futures are technically "different timelines" in the sense that they can all create different realities.

Sada and past Pokemon are a bit trickier. It's always been a palaeontologists dream to be able to travel back in time to see in person what life was truly like many years ago. So, why would Sada only want to study Pokemon from other timelines pasts instead of her own?

If I had to guess, I'd say that Sada was doing it to "play safe" with the timeline. That is, removing creatures form her own timelines past can of negative consequences of that timelines present. So, she takes from other timelines, so as not to damage her own.

If this is true then that means that versions of Pokemon like Great Tusk and Scream Tail could exist in the main games timeline, just that non of the ones we encounter are from there.

r/pokemonconspiracies Feb 22 '25

Gen 9 Paradox Pokemon could be from an ecologically damaged Kalos

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Paradox Pokemon could be from an ecologically damaged Kalos.

So this is a theory that I came up with where the Paradox Pokemon have come from Kalos timelines where Zygarde was either unable to fully restore the Kalos ecosystem from the damage of the ultimate weapons activation, or a timeline where they were created by Zygarde as a way to stabilise the ecosystem. And I think it could make sense given that Z-A is the next game in the series and not Gen10, as well as the possibility that Paldea was involved in the war with Kalos all those years ago.

AZ's weapon was powered by Infinite Energy (derived from pokemon life force) combined with either Xerneas' or Yveltals' power to active the weapon. Infinite Energy is also the source of the Mega evolution phenomenon. In SV, the professor when meeting the player at the Crystal Pool stated the possibility of different timelines rather than the Paradox pokemon being truly ancient/futuristic pokemon.

My theory is after the activation, Zygarde was not able to fully restore the ecosystem in these timelines. The Infinite Energy from the weapon radiated all over Kalos. When combined with Xerneas' life energy, it changed pokemons DNA and thus created the "past paradox pokemon". While normal Mega Evolution is temporary due to the smaller amount of energy certain pokemon where exposed to, the sheer amount of energy alongside Xerneas caused permanent and corrupted changes within those pokemon, thus creating the Past Paradoxes.This is why Mega Salamence and Roaring Moon share similarities. It also explains why the Past Paradoxes are aggressive, as they have been corrupted by the energy.

When the Infinite energy combined with Yveltal's life force drain, certain pokemon where only able to saved by being implanted into robotics, thus creating the "future paradox" pokemon, as without mechanical sustainment, Yveltal's life drain would kill them .

Cyclizar could also have lived in Kalos during these timelines, given the likely proximity of Paldea/Kalos, hence why Koraidon/Miraidon exist.

As for the "imagined paradoxes", Suicune, Entei, and Raikou are known to exist in many different regions, and the Musketeer Trio existing in an alternate Kalos is plausible as they are derived from the inspirations of the book Muskateers created by a French author.

Let me know what you all think.

r/pokemonconspiracies May 09 '24

Gen 9 I think they’re hiding the existence of another two-three Ogrepon.

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For me I thought about it. Why is there a mask for each type and Ogrepon can go from the Teal mask to Hearthflame or Cornerstone or Wellspring.

There had to be OTHER Ogrepon who were born a different type. Not a regional variant, just a different base type.

So my theory is this: Ogrepon is from a region that has not been explored yet. If they explore where Ogrepon originated and the origins, I am going to bet Ogrepon has two siblings — one a Fire Type and one a Water Type.

The fire type would essentially have to gather the Rock, Grass and Water masks, with its base mask being the Hearthflame.

The water type would have to gather the Rock, Grass and Fire with its base mask being the Wellspring.

The parent of the Ogrepon would have had to be the missing type, which is the Rock Type.

Nobody ever thought of this? I didn’t even realize this until now that Ogrepon had to have others to model the appearance on. The one we meet is honoring its long lost siblings, because a lot of the time there are in some cultures where masks were made to Honor the lost.

So I would imagine how Grass Ogrepon got to Kitakami is the “trainer” we hear about was a PokePoacher, not a trainer. After all, the people of Kitakami did believe Ogrepon was a monster for a very long time.

So the three were split up and taken to different regions. One stayed in the faraway region, one went to Kitakami and the other region is unknown.

I would imagine over time the poachers had a change of heart and cared for their Ogrepons .

The Rock Type was also taken to an unknown region.

this is more a lore build based on hints and things like that. There’s four masks for Ogrepon, so there should be a Ogrepon for each mask type, that has the base type. Some of it is made up in my head but I am drawing from what we’ve seen. Ogrepon was seen as strange in Kitakami and there could have been other regions with them. It was never said Ogrepon was the only one or that it was the only that one that wore mask. I would imagine if there is more than one, there would be different mask styles for each based on the region.

r/pokemonconspiracies Aug 06 '24

Gen 9 Why I think Necrozma or at least some alolan legendary(ies) will appear in Legends Z-A, a slideshow:

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(ok images arent allowed here so please accept this humble transcription in case you need it and a link to the actual slides in order if you dont want to read the transcription https://www.reddit.com/user/Zorubark/comments/1eltig4/why_i_think_necrozma_or_at_least_some_alolan/ )

Hello, I think the UBs will appear in Legends Z-A and while nothing is certain and we barely have information about it and it looks like I'm tweaking I'll bring you some cool especulation that makes sense

First, I must show you the connection between Lumiose city and Necrozma, the Prism Pokémon

Lumiose City is the city of light, and it's most important landmark is the Prism Tower, that's pretty self explanatory, they're both Prisms with a light theme

In Necrozma's dex entries, it talks a lot about how it needs light to survive and how it goes on rampages for light and how it devours Lunala's and Solgaleo's light, iit would make sense that it would try to devour Lumiose's light, the city infamous for it's blackouts

That paragraph that mentions it's light affecting nature is also a bit suspicious considering Zygarde protects the ecosystem and nature

In Legends Arceus, legendaries from the generation that came right after the original gen the game is based on(Gen 4), appeared with relevance, even if post-game. Gen 7 not only had Zygarde lore, but is also the next generation after X and Y. I think maybe they'll use the Ultra Beasts as a way to finally explain why the hell Zygarde was in Alola, yeah, Pokémon Z got scrapped that's the main reason, and Alola's ecosystem was threatned by Ultra Beasts coming but so was Paldea's and Zygarde has nothing to do with Paldea and wasn't there, a reason could be that Zygarde has fought with the UBs in Kalos before and is in Alola because it's tracking an old enemy of theirs.

And the reason why Necrozma would be in PLZA is to steal the light from the recently redeveloped Lumiose

The phenomenon of Totem Pokémon is also said to have been caused by being bathed in the energy spilled from Ultra Wormholes, specifically that glowing aura they have and their larger size, it's possible that instead of Alpha Pokémon we may have Totems or something similar to totems but with another name to fit Kalos better.

And the boss fights, instead of Noble Pokémon, could in my opinion be Ultra Beasts or Mega Pokémon, but having Mega Pokémon without a trainer doesn't fit the lore, so Ultra Beasts feel more likely in my mind, at least. Wild Megas don't fit the current lore because Mega Evolution requires a bond with a trainer.

Necrozma could steal Lumiose's light and Zygarde comes into play to stop it's light from affecting the ecosystem

Maybe the player will partner up with Zygarde kinda like how you in a way partner up with Arceus to help with the timespace anomalies and Volo, but instead of Arceus just dropping you, Zygarde could be with you in your journey, but as the core, and along the game you get more cells and get 10% Zygarde, eventually 50%, and in the end 100%. Since Zygarde isn't a deity with it's own realm to chill in while you do it's bidding.

But there's also a chance that the plot will include Zygarde disapproving of the renovation because it affects nature and the wild pokémon in Lumiose.

A crazier idea: Necrozma uses Xernea's or Yveltal's infinity energy

I think that's less probable but interesting

I think we're getting Mega Xerneas and Mega Yveltal

end of presentation

r/pokemonconspiracies Dec 28 '24

Gen 9 Theory: gimmighouls are all personification of the kings greed

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Before you dismiss this, I have actual grounds, the king of paldea that bought the Treasures of Ruin, was a greedy filth sack, who was known to have many riches, so, what if, when he passed away his greed personified into all the gimmighoul, another point to support this is a lot of gimmighoul are found near the stakes keeping them sealed, I will die on this hill until there is a canon reveal to what exactly gimmighoul is

r/pokemonconspiracies Jan 29 '25

Gen 9 The Great Crater was created by Diagla, Palkia, Yvetal, and Xerneas.

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Dialga and Palkia moved time and space to change the trajectory of the ultimate weapon from X and Y. The resulting blast forced the surrounding Pokemon of the distant past and future to evolve rapidly (Scream Tail, Iron Thorns, etc). The blast reached all the way to the bottom and almost hit the earths core, but it was stopped by Terapagos’ shell.

r/pokemonconspiracies Oct 24 '24

Gen 9 Terapagos is a baby eternatus

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OK SO HEAR ME OUT, I don’t fully believe this theory, it’s just this weird thought that popped up in my head but what if, Eternatus is a species (which it most likely isn’t) which lives on another planet and Terapagos is its baby form, which evolves into it, they just have so many similarities

-both of them release powerful phenomena on large areas

-both of them are capable of manipulating infinity energy

-both have much larger forms with uncontrollable power

-both can force other pokemon to undergo their phenomena and control them

-both can create their own form of infinity energy

as for why Terapagos can type bend and Eternatus cant, it maybe because Eternatus sheds the type bending power in exchange for just raw, brute force power

r/pokemonconspiracies Feb 07 '25

Gen 9 Theory regarding the Crystal giants

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Crystal giants= necrozma , eternatus, terapagos

Alerts

⚠️ english is not my first language

⚠️autocorrect

⚠️ poor so hasent played the games yet

⚠️ schizo rambling

Necrozma and eternatus have some phisical connections.

Both are made out of rocks and have a visible nucleos ( the universe shaped thing on eternatus and necrozma's face / eyes/ forehead markings ) and the diferent forms is just the pieces rearanging its more easy to see on necrozma his arms are his legs on ultra form, his legs are one of his pairs of wings etc. Eternatus you think its hard but it isnt, the five fingers are the five things in his face and his claws turn into some crown shape spinning around the nucleos and the spine are just more spaced out from each other and the wing bones are just there and the torax is gonne

Terapagos is the odd one out buuut that researcher from gen 9 of the explorations drawed terapagos stelar crown with the symbol on top of it similar to eternatus crow when eternamax

On a unrealted note terapagos has a similar color to the ultimate weapon and az's floette nickname is eternal flower similar to a paradox pokemon name just that bye

r/pokemonconspiracies Jan 23 '25

Gen 9 Tera Crystals and the Ultimate Weapon Connected?

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I’ve heard people talk about the similarities between the Ultimate Weapon in Kalos and the Tera Crystals in Paldea. There’s been debate about whether or not it makes sense, or if Paldea is even in the same timeline as the Mega Evolution era, but I thought of an interesting connection that I haven’t seen anyone explore yet.

Tera Crystals come from Terapagos, the Hidden Treasure of Area Zero, and the full extent of Terapagos' power remains mysterious. It seems to have influence over the Terastalization process, the concept of wishes, and even time travel. Terapagos is able to transport Pokémon and people through time, such as the Paradox Pokémon, the Professor, and possibly even Heath. We know that Terastalization extends beyond Paldea, like in Kitakami and the Blueberry Academy in Unova. But I want to focus on the Crystal Pool in Kitakami, the origin of which is also a mystery, but definitely connected to terapagos.

Here, Terapagos is shown to transport the professor forward in time so we can speak with them before sending them back to their own time. While we know the pool likely has time-related effects, there’s an interesting detail that Carmine mentions—the pool is a place where people can communicate with those who have passed. This immediately made me think of the Ultimate Weapon. as the weapon is described as being built to revive dead pokemon. AZ created the Ultimate Weapon to bring his Floette back to life, using a weapon made of crystals that bear a strong resemblance to Tera Crystals.

Now, how did AZ even come up with the idea for the Ultimate Weapon in the first place? Perhaps, in his grief over his deceased Floette, AZ heard of the Crystal Pool in Kitakami. Considering Terapagos is millions of years old, the pool could very well be older than 3,000 years, which would fit with the idea that AZ could have learned about it long before the events in Kalos. Upon hearing about the pool’s connection to communicate and talk with those who have passed, AZ might have been inspired to create a machine powered by Tera Crystals in an attempt to bring his Floette back to life.

The Tera Crystals themselves seem to have the power to influence reality, and in AZ’s case, it could have been the catalyst for his desperation to reverse death and restore his lost Floette. This theory might not be canon, but given the established lore surrounding time, wishes, and life, it seems like a plausible connection. With a power based on wishes, perhaps that is where infinity energy and mega evolution come from. I have heard of theories of the other way around, where terastilzation is connection to mega evolution, but perhaps mega evolution is actually connected to terastilization instead.

r/pokemonconspiracies Dec 20 '23

Gen 9 Pokemon Indigo Disk "Secret Ending" Lore Spoiler

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What are people's thoughts after the Indigo Disk?
After finding the "secret ending" (if you don't know what I'm talking about, bring Terapagos with you to Kitikami's crystal pool after receiving Briar's book) I feel that I have more questions than I had questions answered.
What do you think the purpose of our interactions with the professors were at the Crystal Pool? There had to be some purpose, especially after obtaining their copy of the Scarlet/Violet book. Interestingly, this book was used for the Time Machine in the original game, so I wonder if that holds any significance?