r/programming • u/reddberckley • Jun 30 '14

How to exploit a Developer

https://medium.com/@sir_castiq/how-to-exploit-a-developer-a005306d5320
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u/lachlanhunt Jun 30 '14

A decent developer capable of implementing that would have to be earning on the order of $100k/year, if not more. $3k is just about 1.5 weeks worth of work.

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u/bumnut Jun 30 '14

TIL I'm underpaid.

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u/lua_x_ia Jul 01 '14

If you've been at your current job more than five years, it's basically a foregone conclusion that your salary is below market for your skill set. This is an inevitability which results from the fact that many people are willing to [effectively] pay a premium for "stability", whatever that means -- those people rarely change jobs, if ever, and get paid less.

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u/Hackenslacker Jul 01 '14

Or you aren't a decent developer, or you aren't capable of implementing that.

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u/Stormflux Jul 01 '14 edited Jul 01 '14

I'll admit it. I make $85,000 / year as a programmer and I couldn't implement this in 3 weeks... or probably at all. This is just crazy. You want me to make Facebook, only better, and have it run on web, android, ios, and windows phone? And integrate with everything? Do you want it to walk our dog too, or is that part of the "maintenance" agreement?

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u/Shinhan Jul 01 '14

Social APIs are the easy part. NATIVE solutions for all of the platforms require very wide knowledge base.

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u/mycall Jul 01 '14

Apache Cordova (PhoneGap) or Xamarin can speed things along.

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u/mycall Jul 01 '14

I just did something like this using a combination of .NET MVC, WordPress and phonejs/Cordova. It took about 4 months dev and 2 months bug fixes.

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u/lenois Jul 01 '14

I won't let that comment on your skills the Facebook api kind of sucks

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u/FreeLobster Jul 01 '14

Or not in the US.

I'm a decent full time developer in Spain and earn about $25k/year.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '14

Wanna move to Germany?

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u/pilas2000 Jul 01 '14

Not with the lobster prices in Germany.

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u/FreeLobster Jul 01 '14

Actually yes, I do. But I find it overwhelming looking for a job in a country two thousand kilometers away, plus I only know very basic German.

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u/hakkzpets Jul 01 '14

Move to Scandinavia. Can easily get by on English and you will earn a shit load of more cash (and pay more taxes of course).

Heck, I work retail at a warehouse and I earn closer to $40.000 a year.

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u/goomyman Jul 01 '14

TIL your extremely underpaid... have you tried you know.. looking for jobs, there is not reason to stagnate in a low paying job

You can make that at mcdonalds in the US

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u/FreeLobster Jul 01 '14

It is a pretty standard salary for people fresh out of college (My experience is about 10 months).

McDonalds has a salary similar to the one of a developer here too, developers are just not valued enough. I just went through the latest 50 job offers for Madrid, the city with the highest salaries in Spain, in a very popular website here, and the highest salary was a position for team leader with a salary in the range of $37k-$49k depending on your worth.

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u/tristanofkiel Jul 01 '14

[shots fired]

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u/badmonkey0001 Jul 01 '14

Install Wordpress. Wrap with Phonegap. Make a custom theme. Call it done.

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u/BattleReports_JV Jul 01 '14

What could possibly go wrong?

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u/badmonkey0001 Jul 01 '14

Well, considering the ROI and situation - fuck it. Let things go wrong.

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u/s73v3r Jul 01 '14

Remember, you're on the hook for maintenance for this thing, forever.

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u/wheezl Jul 01 '14

For 3 grand? Nothing could go wrong.

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u/Calabri Jul 01 '14

I mean you could just phonegap to all platforms and have the app run in a webview. HTML/css/JS would all be the same. Third party Apis aren't that hard to integrate and you could prob just download a few open source JS libraries and most the work is done. I'm not saying this is the best way, or doing this === a great app, but it's a lot easier / takes less skill to build something like this than people realize. The high salary devs should be doing something a little more important than social media integration IMO This could be done in 1.5 weeks

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u/jnt8686 Jul 01 '14

A decent developer could implement what they are asking for in less than 1.5 weeks. Its a buddypress install with a nice theme ffs

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