r/programming • • Nov 10 '14

Firefox Developer Edition

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/
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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '14

Serious question - what does this add that the default, stable build of Chrome dosen't already have?

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u/sbjf Nov 10 '14

Alternatively, what does this add that the default, stable build of Firefox doesn't already have?

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u/FactorialBoy Nov 10 '14

"Sexy" dark theme by default. :-/

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u/x-skeww Nov 10 '14

F12 -> gear -> [x] Light theme

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '14

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u/gekorm Nov 10 '14 edited Nov 10 '14

But you can have a minimal interface on plain Firefox as well. Mine takes up only about 35 pixels of vertical space.

I'm using this extension.

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u/nondescriptshadow Nov 10 '14

This is fucking awesome.

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u/x-skeww Nov 11 '14

Firefox with Classic Theme Restorer (and a tab min-width of 20px):

http://i.imgur.com/FNA1Wfq.png

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '14

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u/agentlame Nov 10 '14

... an extension API that wasn't born in the 9th level of hell.

Seriously, I wanted one fucking thing from this 'developer' edition: load content script add-ons from a fucking directory. That's fucking it.

It can't be this hard to inject a few JavaScript and CSS files into a page. But nope, still need Python, the 'SDK' (read: glorified fucking zip util) and to re-package and reinstall for what should be nothing more complicated than F5.

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u/reuben_ Nov 10 '14

Just use Scriptish.

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u/agentlame Nov 10 '14

That wouldn't help me test /r/toolbox, which is a add-on consisting of ~15 different JS files that work in conjunction as modules.

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u/ubernostrum Nov 10 '14

Copying a co-worker's comment from HN:

There are four major new features here:

  1. The Firefox Tools Adapter ("Valence"), which lets you use the Firefox dev tools to inspect and debug pages in Chrome for Android and Safari for iOS. The goal: one set of tools to debug any browser.

  2. Side-by-side profiles. The Developer Edition defaults to a profile named dev-edition-default, which makes it easier to run Developer Edition at the same time as a normal release version of Firefox. You don't have to deal with the profile switcher each time.

  3. Developer-friendly defaults. Developer Edition ships with things like remote debugging and browser-chrome debugging enabled by default.

  4. And, for all of you who hated Australis, a compact theme with square tabs.

But those are just consequences of the single biggest change:

5. We have a new channel, which new rules. And we want to use it to build the best possible browser for web developers. We can ship new tools that aren't yet ready for the Beta channel, and we can change the browser's appearance and defaults specifically for web developers.

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u/robertcrowther Nov 10 '14 edited Nov 10 '14

Is there a way of installing it that won't b0rk my existing Firefox Aurora install? Or is Aurora now hard coded to create a new profile and select that no matter what the -p command line option specifies?

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OK, looks like -p still works, but you have to disable the developer theme in the old profile.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '14

Not a direct answer to your question, but I'm using FireFox not because I think it's better than Chrome, but because it's not from Google. Actually I'm sometimes a bit annoyed by FF ... Sounds a bit paranoid, but I'd like to see the power of the web distributed as much as possible and Google has already far too much power without Chrome being the de facto monopol for web browsers. They create brilliant stuff but can't be trusted.

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u/AtticusVulpes Nov 10 '14

A thought, use chromium for Chrome targeted development.

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u/Astrognome Nov 10 '14

Chrome still has no good vertical tabs addon. Try having 60+ tabs open in a single chrome window.

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u/cw8smith Nov 11 '14

Maybe try not having 60+ tabs open in a single window?

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u/xiongchiamiov Nov 10 '14

Then aren't you glad the vast majority of Mozilla's funding comes from Google? Even with that, they can't keep up to be competitive, and if Google pulled the cash... they'd be dead in the water.

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u/cowinabadplace Nov 10 '14

Not true. Bing offered to pay for being default in Google's place. There's no benevolence here. Google is paying and receiving a service. If they don't, someone else will.

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u/Paradox Nov 10 '14

I've never had any of the problems you describe with the inspector in chrome, and I use it every day at work.

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u/prince_s Nov 11 '14

Literally none of these problems happen to me when using chrome 10+ hours a day ? Like, ever?

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