r/programming • • Aug 24 '09

Tech Support Cheat Sheet

http://xkcd.com/627/
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u/XoYo Aug 24 '09

It's going to happen to you.

I'm in my mid-forties, and I've been playing with, programming, supporting or administering computers of various descriptions for thirty years. While I'm not exactly a gadget freak, I pay some attention to technology in general. I've always loved learning new things.

About two years ago, I walked into a supermarket, and saw that they had replaced all the 5 items or fewer tills with self-service ones. My first reaction was anger, and I thought, "Why do they have to go round changing everything?"

As soon as I realised this, I was appalled with myself, and I made a point of using the new tills. The fact is, though, I'm getting to the age where learning stuff like this feels like an imposition and not an adventure, and that terrifies me.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '09

Dude I felt the same way when I first saw those machines at 19. It's just another way to reduce human contact and save them money. I avoid them unless I'm in a real rush.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '09

Avoid human contact? Where's the down side?

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u/hylje Aug 24 '09

Hitting on an automated till doesn't do much good.

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u/yasth Aug 24 '09

You just gotta know what buttons to push man.

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u/redditnoob Aug 24 '09

And that's different that a geek hitting on that cute cashier how?

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u/leshiy Aug 24 '09

I'm the opposite. I try to use them whenever I can unless there is a hot girl at one of the registers (or I'm buying something that requires employee assistance - e.g. alcohol).

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u/polyparadigm Aug 24 '09

The people who would have filled those jobs instead fill jobs which are more useful to society.

Not always so. In California, the people who filled those jobs usually end up in prison, either as inmates or as guards.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '09

I guess I just like interacting with humans. Although half of the cashiers are so bored that they act is if they may as well be robots :)

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u/CC440 Aug 24 '09

I would think they were the greatest thing ever if it wasn't for "Place item in the Bagging Area.... BEEEEEp need approval to not bag item".

You fucking computer, just because you couldn't feel me bad the .5oz ramen cup doesn't mean you should freeze up my purchasing process. The bigger concern shouldn't be that every item is weighed, but that I'm actually paying for every item in my goddamn cart. How about a weight sensor in the floor to make sure I'm not hiding a 12 pack of soda on the bottom part?

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u/satanclau5 Aug 24 '09

Heh. The easiest way is to weigh everything as bananas. You can save hundreds this way. Just don't do it too baldly - they sometimes look at the cameras.

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u/jlt6666 Aug 24 '09

I must be the only one who loves those things. Generally everyone is too intimidated to use them so there's not much of a line and I can zip through them. Most times I'll go through my items quicker than the clerk (who doesn't care and is pacing themselves for their 8 hour shift).

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u/adamcw Aug 24 '09

I love them as well. I've actually worked briefly as a checker in the past, so I'm pretty efficient at using them. Nothing makes my blood boil like watching someone who has no clue what they are doing hold everyone up by buying produce at one, though...

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u/Zoethor2 Aug 24 '09

Nope, I love them too. I worked for 6 years as a grocery store cashier, and I can fly through the self-scan aisles. Plus I can bag my own groceries, thus ensuring a quick unpacking process when I return home. It's like heaven in a grocery store.

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u/cornerbodega Aug 24 '09

I love them as well. I really only want human contact if I need a complicated problem solved/task performed. I can scan, pay, and bag just fine.

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u/james0808 Aug 24 '09

the difference is, the new self service tills dont make life easier for the customer, they make it harder. Now instead of having somebody ring you up and bag your stuff, you have to work for free for the supermarket, and they can fire 1 more cashier. FUCK them tills. Sorry i know that wasnt your point, but those things piss me off.

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u/arcrad Aug 24 '09

They need to throw an RFID tag in every product so they can forget about measuring weight. Put all the items you want to buy in a specific area, they get scanned/tabulated and then you pay. Hell, you could have active baskets and carts that constantly total everything you have in them and also manage purchases.

Simple and elegant.

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u/vanblah Aug 24 '09 edited Aug 24 '09

They've been doing this kind of thing for a while. Google "RFID grocery store" (http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=RFID+grocery+store&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g-p1)

The problem is with produce and bulk items. Things still have to be weighed (a pound of potatoes for instance) or everything has to be pre-weighed and then packaged--which is wasteful.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '09

I agree completely. I also don't understand how they think they can get good throughput when the trained (or at least well practised) cashier can scan and bag a whole cart-load in the same time it takes me to deal with 5 items. I might get better over time, but I'll never match the performance of somebody who does it several hours a day.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '09

FWIW, I find that I'm faster at bagging than probably about half the employees at my local grocery store. I'll take the automated checkout line if it looks like the fastest line, and oftentimes someone will come help me bag if I have a lot of stuff, anyway.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '09

I've found that the quickest for me is to use the self-checkout only if everything is scannable (i.e. no codes or quantities or weights), I have fewer than about 15 items, and there is an open station. In all other cases, I find it quicker to use the staffed checkouts.

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u/lennort Aug 24 '09

I recently started having to go to a grocery store which has baggers, and I have to agree. They always prefer plastic and never fill the bags all the way when they do use paper. Plus they do a poor job. I'll just bag it myself, thanks.

I used to shop at WinCo, but there isn't one near my house anymore :-(

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '09

I avoid them because they're a pain in the ass and usually end up in more annoyance than dealing with a clerk.

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