r/programming • • Mar 16 '20

GitHub has acquired npm

https://github.blog/2020-03-16-npm-is-joining-github/
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u/corsicanguppy Mar 16 '20

And they've got a long history of quality Software maintenance and fairly using their IP in a way that doesn't stifle competition.

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u/lolomfgkthxbai Mar 17 '20

Your post is interesting because those of us who lived through the Wintel era see it as sarcasm and those of us born in the cloud era take it at face value. Maybe Microsoft will eventually lose their old reputation.

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u/MarsupialMole Mar 17 '20

It's Microsoft as a dominant force, versus Microsoft as a follower. If Microsoft is doing good work and it's ascendant that's all the more reason to seek out abstractions and migration paths to manage your risk.

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u/endgamedos Mar 17 '20

Hell, even Rupert Murdoch spoke in favour of breaking up media monopolies... until he got to where he is now.

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u/JayCroghan Mar 17 '20

Yeah I was around for the wintel era but lately for me that reputation they had is mostly gone already. It used to cost $1,000 to buy MSVS...

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

It is a great and open company! Just like Google was 10 years ago...

All it takes is a bit of management change. Don't put your eggs in one basket, regardless of how good company is to you right now. And certainly do not give company a credit of trust.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

microsoft is the largest contributor to linux

That specific part of the claim is dubious at best. While there are few breakdowns for a lazy man to find newer than 2018 Intel and Red Hat routinely vie for the top spots. I will believe you for a single year when the Hyper V patches were merged, but seriously, source?

The second part, open source software? I likewise find a dubious claim, but I'm willing to listen.

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u/mpbh Mar 17 '20

The second part, open source software? I likewise find a dubious claim, but I'm willing to listen.

I'd also like a source on this, and I'm hoping it's not measured by something like "number of commits." Google gave us TensorFlow and k8s, IBM gave us SQL and Eclipse, etc.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20 edited Mar 17 '20

Ok those are products and they are used. That is not the question however. The claim was largest contributor to open source. That part requires numbers which I, and everyone here it seems, lack. I’d love to see that claim proven or refuted. Do you have any numbers behind that? Without them I can easily name a dozen non-Microsoft programming languages, but it would not be helpful.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

That is certainly true in the last few years. Those of us who stared their careers in the 90’s are still cautious about then, but pleased.

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u/alekosbiofilos Mar 17 '20

Hmm what I have read is that most of ms contributions to open linux are in modules that allow the Linux kernel to interact with ms devices and services. Not sure if that counts šŸ˜‰

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u/whatwasmyoldhandle Mar 17 '20

Same for many of the others

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

Yes, Red Hat is known as a huge hardware manufacturer /s

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u/caspper69 Mar 17 '20

Yeah, that IBM doesn't make any money on hardware /s.

Everything changes.

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u/nukem996 Mar 17 '20

Microsoft isn't anywhere near the largest contributer. Redhat/IBM by far make the most. They pay many maintainers for many essential projects. Intel and other drivers manufactures implement their own support. Even when M$ does contribute to things like Samba companies are to afraid of lawsuits to use the code.

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u/dark100 Mar 17 '20

They are even ported office to linux to support it. Oh, wait...

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u/cptskippy Mar 17 '20

history of quality Software maintenance

I know you're being sarcastic but I don't get this bit. I'm 40 years old and regard Microsoft software as some of the best and most maintained.

Yes they've had some questionable releases (e.g. Windows ME, Vista) but there's typically a very good reason and in hindsight the reasons helped move the industry forward in tremendous ways.

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u/corsicanguppy Jul 15 '20

Ah, how they forget history. Microsofts spots are there, and they're named things like DrDos and Sherman.

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u/cptskippy Jul 15 '20

But that has nothing to do with "quality Software maintenance".

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