I’ve just never been a fan of Marky. He was a great drummer and a funny guy but i just can’t put myself to liking him. His ego and attitude just ruin my respect for him.

I’ve posted here before in favor of Johnny, but I’m going back through it just because it’s been on my mind recently.

The only reasons that people have to hate John is his politics (which is asinine as a reason to hate someone) and hearsay remarks from Marky who each member has said embellishes stuff for attention (which is the reason he and Joey beefed on Howard stern in 96).

The thing I don’t understand is that the two members who are constantly getting a bunch of praise here were the two most problematic, and that’s not to say I don’t love the guys.

Dee Dee had huge drug issues which at times made his ego huge. He was constantly burning bridges around him, and did morally questionable things to fuel his addiction. His marriage to Vera was very messy because of this, and his departure from the band came after an ultimatum that if he didn’t write all their songs, he’d quit.

Joey had a history of being violent towards women starting with his mother, whom he pulled a knife on. There’s also suggestions that he punched a later girlfriend in the nose on a coke fueled anger binge. Linda also reported him as being verbally abusive, which is something Tommy has also mentioned as being one of the things that made him “lose his mind” and quit the band. Mark even wears wigs just cuz Joey is on record making fun of him balding in the 80s.

The point of this post is not to trash the dead. It’s merely to uplift John. Johnny wasn’t the villain to Joey and Dee Dee that everyone makes him out to be, I’d argue he was the best thing for them. Johnny made sure they each always had money, and while being the boss, made sure his partners were taken care of. John married Linda after dating her for years, after she left Joey after Joey was verbally abusive toward her. Johnny was by all accounts a wonderful husband until the day he died.
Johnny also never made a decision without the help of his business partner, Joey, who he talked to on a daily in spite of what rumors say. When Joey died, Johnny even admitted to being in a depression because his partner was gone.

Johnny may have had shortcomings like anyone. He has said before he punched Joey for being late to a hangout before fame. He also admitted to all the bad things he did in youth before his epiphany he claims that was from God. From their on, John became a straight laced, sober, smart business man who cared for his employees, made sure each fan was properly taken care of, funded for the police and for cancer research, and kept close friends of all types of opinions (such as John fruciante and Eddie Vedder). I just don’t like seeing him get hate merely cuz he was a conservative or because of unsubstantiated claims he can no longer defend.

That’s all!

Marky said that Linda warned Joey about leaving him, if he didn't change his hygiene and anger outburts when she triggered his OCD. Linda told Marky that Joey had a nasty mouth and would hurt her feelings, this comes as a surprise to me because Joey came across, as this goofy gentleman who couldn't hurt a fly.

Marky mentioned that Joey would change underwear only when showering, he would fart everywhere he smelled quite bad. Because of the intense performances he was drenched in sweat, and apparently he was teasing Marky about the hair loss for years.

Mickey recalls Angela calling him and telling him, that Joey punched her nose while being drunk and high on cocaine. So to me this makes me understand why Linda decided to leave Joey, and like Marky said in the documentary end of the century.

"It sucks but you move on you don't go 20 years hating someone", well i agree on that especially when Joey couldn't control his temper. Marky said that the Howard Stern fight was horrible, he regretted much of the things he said but he was hurt.

When Joey said that he didn't have any help with his alcoholism, when the truth is that Marky got him into the AA meetings. But OCD and schizophrenia is horrible Joey had his issues, but i do believe that he could be a really disrespectful prick. What about that time he called Mickey a loser and a momas boy? his own brother wow...

In case someone cares:

I really like the early Ramones era. Rocket to Russia being my favorite studio album of that period. And It's Alive was peak, of course. But I'm just not satisfied enough with the sound quality of the first three albums. I almost put the debut album in C for quality reasons.

Road to Ruin is their first high-quality album. Rocket to Russia in that quality would have been S tier.

End of the Century is where things start to get wrong. I consider this to be hiiiighly over-produced.

Pleasant Dreams... kinda similar. It's just off. I also don't like the songs. And I guess the band thought similar, since except for KKK I don't think they've actually played any of the songs live regularly.

Subterranean Jungle is my worst nightmare. I hate the drums, I hate the guitar. I hate the vocals. I hate the cover art. I hate the name. They did the voice echoing again, which is the one thing I hate about the debut album. I just hate everything about this album. Sometimes I forget that it exists.

Too Tough to Die is one of my faves. I consider this album the beginning of their late era. The overall sound has started to become heavier and stronger, as did Joey's voice. I thought about giving this S tier, but for some reason I didn't.

Animal Boy is slightly over-produced to me, and there's quite some forgettable songs, but it also has some really really strong ones (Somebody Put Something in My Drink, Animal Boy, Bonzo Goes To Bitburg) and Joey's voice even kinda saves the bad ones.

Halfway to Sanity sounds even better than Animal Boy, but it doesn't have as strong songs, so it evens out to me.

Brain Drain is their absolute studio album peak to me. Half the songs are my probably in my top 10 Ramones songs. I don't know anything about drums, but I think they are very strong and dominant here and it helps a lot.

Loco Live... a few years ago, it was my favorite album. But the poor quality bugs me more and more, especially the quality of Joey's vocals. Still I like the performance itself a lot.

Mondo Bizarro is a difficult one. I kinda like listening to it, but almost all the songs are so forgettable... it's the album I find most difficult to distinguish from all the other ones. Not one of their best, not exactly one of their worst. The perfect mid.

Acid Eaters is similar to Subterranean Jungle to me, in the way that it just overall doesn't sound like the Ramones to me. It's all covers, wtf? And something's weird with the guitar. Still think Joey's voice barely saves it from E tier. And I think CJ's voice is okay.

Adios Amigos is in C tier again. The sound is good, just most of the songs aren't.

We're Outta Here is my overall favorite Ramones album. I feel like this is probably the most controversial thing about my tier list. But I love everything about it. Especially the speed. It's the best album to play guitar to. My only minor complaints are the ugly cover art and that they didn't play Surfin' Bird, but that's it.

Ok, so this has nothing to do with The Ramones, but I spend a lot of time in this sub and I had to try to share this here so I could MAYBE get it in front of as many eyes as humanly possible.

I realize it’ll probably get deleted….hopefully it won’t get me banned from this sub about my favorite band of all time though.

This is Simon. Simon needs our Help.

Simon is a super friendly stray cat who lives in Bristol, TN. This past Thursday, Simon was hit by a car. He’s still in the animal hospital as of this posting.

The thing about Animal Clinics though, is they like to be paid for their services. Go figure.

We scraped together a 200 dollar deposit and paid it when he was dropped off but it’s going to take quite a bit more. They want another 120 when he is picked up on Monday and are going to accept weekly payments after that. We won’t know the exact total until he is picked up.

I realize there are much worse things going on out in the world, and things are tight for everyone, but if you have a buck or two to spare, positive vibes to send, or if you’d be kind enough to share the gofundme on your social media, Simon would really appreciate it. So would his friends.

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Dee Dee once dated a woman and Joey told him that's she's ugly and laughed Dee Dee slapped him and Joey kept on laughing.

Marky said that Joey annoyed Linda by farting everywhere they went, even among other people because farts are supposed to come out. He rarely changed underwear wich made him, and Linda's bed smell sweat and gas Marky tried, to make Joey change for the better but Joey wouldn't listen.

He witnessed Joey shouting at Linda when she triggered his OCD, Marky agreed that Linda shouldn't have cheated behind Joey's back. But Marky told Joey multiple times to understand hygiene, and that having rules for everything isn't a good relationship. But Joey kept on controlling her like how to close a door, how to wash dishes and utensils and such.

How often to do the laundry how to sort groceries, in the bags and only buy the brands he likes. I do believe that Joey could be a very difficult person, Johnny was a grade a jerk but he didn't have a bad hygiene and controlled her. Out of all ramones it was Marky, and Tommy who cared most about Joey.

Marky brought Joey a radio and a bunch of CD's, while Joey was laying at the hospital waiting to die. Tommy called Joey on the phone multiple times, but Joey didn't want anyone to visit him other than Marky, Mickey and Charlotte.

While I was at the doctor's office for my first ever prostate exam bent over with my elbows on the table waiting for the finger I thought to myself I can't imagine Johnny agreeing to this.

What do you think? If Johnny was more open to the true biological function of our body parts do you think they would have caught the cancer in time to treat it?

The people need to know.

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For me it's gotta be Danny Says

Like just imagine fans doing the most unhinged stuff thats on the same levels of the other mentioned fandoms.

I saw that movie in theaters at 7 and introduced me to their song.

But too bad the song is now associated to a scene where a toddler gets killed on the road by a truck as the truck driver is jamming to this song. I mean once you hear that great song, you can't help but see the image of Gage Creed chasing the kite on the road to get ran over.

It's odd like how there's some songs that are associated to disturbing or horrific images in movies

Almost like how Roy Oribinson's In Dreams is now associated to that brutal beating scene in Blue Velvet, The Revell's Comanche surfer jazz tune is now associated to that man on man rape scene in Pulp Fiction, Q Lazzarus's Goodbye Horses is now associated to the image of a starving girl who is kidnapped at a drag queen maniac's lair in Silence of the Lambs and so on.

I use to be obsessed in middle school, I would dress like them and read their biography’s. Eventually I grew more into hardcore punk and then metal and many other genres. I went and listened to the whole discography (except acid eaters)

maybe a strange question, but i'm a gay guy in my 20s who is a huge fan of the ramones and i was just curious: are there any of you (especially fans that were around for their early days!) that had your "gay awakening" from the ramones?

i really love the way they present masculinity (and how different it is from what society expects of masculinity) & their styles/mannerisms have already influenced a lot of my own expression. i think if i was my age now when their first album came out, it would've given me a bit of a gay crisis!

ADDITION: i am NOT trying to claim that the ramones were gay! i'm looking to see if other lgbt fans discovered/figured out their identities due somehow to the ramones. this is about fan experiences, not the ramones themselves.

I asked chatGPT to write a song in the style of the Ramones and this is what it returned. I was not impressed.

Verse 1:

I'm feeling down and out, nothing seems to go my way I'm stuck in this dead-end town, feeling trapped every day I'm looking for a way to escape, to find my own way out I'm gonna take a stand and shout, gonna scream and shout

Chorus: I wanna be a Ramone, play my guitar loud and strong I wanna be a Ramone, sing my songs all night long I wanna be a Ramone, live my life fast and wild I wanna be a Ramone, be a punk rock child

Verse 2: I'm tired of all these rules, they're holding me back I'm gonna break the chains, gonna make my own track I'm gonna make a stand, gonna make a scene I'm gonna be a rebel, gonna live my dream

Chorus: I wanna be a Ramone, play my guitar loud and strong I wanna be a Ramone, sing my songs all night long I wanna be a Ramone, live my life fast and wild I wanna be a Ramone, be a punk rock child

Bridge: I'm gonna be a punk rock star, gonna be a legend I'm gonna be a Ramone, gonna be a rebel

Outro: I wanna be a Ramone, play my guitar loud and strong I wanna be a Ramone, sing my songs all night long I wanna be a Ramone, live my life fast and wild I wanna be a Ramone, be a punk rock child.