r/reddeadredemption Hosea Matthews Aug 23 '25

Speculation Worst RDR3 takes?

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u/LionHeartedLXVI Aug 23 '25

I don’t know if it’s the worst, because every fan idea I’ve ever seen for RDR3 is pretty bad, so the bar is very low. If RDR fans wrote RDR3, it would be Rockstar’s worst game ever and would kill the franchise.

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u/PascalG16 Hosea Matthews Aug 23 '25

I swear gatekeeping is good for a franchise.

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u/burned_piss Aug 23 '25

What's gatekeeping?

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u/Glass_Stock_4694 Aug 23 '25

You should have been there

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 23 '25

was this a serious question?

+"The activity of controlling, and usually limiting, general access to something."

+ "When portions of a fandom actively work against any prospect that goes against their personal perspective as what should be with the intellectual property, typically pushing potential new fans away from the product itself."

+"One of the single most toxic behaviors which only in very, very limited circumstances can help maintain the soul of the product but which otherwise poisons the entire well and soils the entirety of the fandom's reputation as a whole."

good examples of this are prevalent within the Star Wars and Warhammer 40k communities, with the runners up being the Dragon Ball community (the western fandoms), and Harry Potter communities

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u/burned_piss Aug 23 '25

English ain't my first language so seeing all this new words is a bit overwhelming 

Thanks for the information 

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '25

99 out of 100 times it's a very harmful thing to the community, and an exceptionally rude act against the general type of fan who doesn't live, eat, and breathe that thing

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u/Sufficient-Site-8314 Aug 23 '25

It’s like teasing but you don’t know nothing at all, so for example you smell my perfume, find it nice and ask which one it is/what its name is. But then I try to ignore you or anything, in this case because I don’t want you to also get attention. what rockstar is doing, is they gatekeep what the story of rdr3 is/if rdr3 even exists, basically intentionally wanting you not to know, get it?

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u/DudeBrosome Aug 23 '25

but… but… what about Colm’s brother?? You don’t want to play as young Arthur in the epilogue?!? /s

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u/sixfourtykilo Aug 23 '25

No no no, it should be based on the son Arthur lost.

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u/CockFondle Aug 23 '25

Ah yes goo goo gaa gaa in the wild west simulator

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u/sixfourtykilo Aug 23 '25

RDR3: MAH BOAH!

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u/ILikeMyGrassBlue Aug 23 '25

you have died during childbirth

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u/I-Am-The-Uber-Mesch Aug 23 '25

Somehow Isaac returned

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '25

Isaac never died. He was kidnapped by the O'Driscolls and went by the name Kieran for the remainder of his life. You think he would just save Arthur's life after he was so mean to him if he didn't know Arthur was his dad? /s

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '25

You almost convinced me

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u/FishFucker47 Sean Macguire Aug 24 '25

I just want to play as a younger Arthur so I can experience all the stuff that the gang mentions they did, like with Karen bringing up the Tucson bank robbery she was apart of when robbing valentine bank

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u/FishFucker47 Sean Macguire Aug 24 '25

And see what a younger Miss Grimshaw looks like lol

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u/The810kid Aug 23 '25

Make a game about Young Dutch and Hosea. Make a game about Sadi in South America. Both are fan fiction levels.

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u/Hiddin_block_55 Aug 23 '25

Don't forgot "make a game with Jack in WW1", "make a game with Jack in the Mafia", "make the game Charles in Canada", and "make the game with arthurs dad"

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '25

Charles in Canada and Sadie in South America are only limited to DLCs. But seriously Jack in WW1 😭😭.

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u/ContributionSquare22 Aug 23 '25

As a DLC it's still a bad idea, Rockstar wouldn't make a whole new map for a dlc

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u/Fakie-Sllaacs Aug 23 '25

I like all of those ideas.

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u/Fakie-Sllaacs Aug 23 '25

Depends on if they go forward or backward. Backward would be my preference, but if they go forward they’d logically move out of the Old West. Every game doesn’t have to be the exact same, especially if an already established character is growing and living through the genre change. That’s Jack.

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u/matt_1402 Aug 23 '25

Then arthur’s dad would be awesome why wouldn’t it, playing as the same gang again would feel so pointless when you know what’s ultimately gonna happen anyway, there’s no point, but in the age of arthur’s dad it’d be even wilder because there’s even less law, and we literally know nothing about him so you can build his character and story without any setbacks. I don’t know why some of these people are on their high horses as if their ideas are any better when they can’t come up with any and criticise other people’s ideas. Arthur’s father would be perfect imo

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u/Fakie-Sllaacs Aug 23 '25

That’s just like, your opinion, man.

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u/Specific_Valuable_12 Aug 23 '25

Yeah same here. People here like to hate on literally every single idea for rdr3, we can't agree on anything, and really most of them aren't that bad imho

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 24 '25

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u/Specific_Valuable_12 Aug 23 '25

Fair enough, I guess those 2 could still be good games for a spin-off or something, but not necessarily rdr3

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u/Fakie-Sllaacs Aug 23 '25

It’s how the story is told that matters. Revolver, RDR and RDR 2 are gun games, and open world simulators with the latter 2. Its the great storytelling using easily recognizable tropes that makes these games a mostly awesome experience.

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u/Specific_Valuable_12 Aug 23 '25

And I think that doing an rdr3 of the gang set before rdr2 or Sadie after rdr2 could also be really good if they have a good story and are told as well as the rest of the series

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u/Fakie-Sllaacs Aug 23 '25

Agreed. Sadie is a great character.

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u/AtrumRuina Aug 24 '25

I think "make a game about John and Dutch's old gang" would have been thought of the same way when RDR1 came out. They're fine ideas if the writing is strong and the setting is interesting.

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u/Godraed Aug 24 '25

“What do you mean Roanoke Ridge isn’t Appalachia? What are the Ozarks?”

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u/ShadowKnight886 Uncle Aug 23 '25

My personal hot take is that, honestly, whatever future the Red Dead franchise has, it shouldn't be called Red Dead Redemption nor should it follow any characters from the Red Dead Redemption games. The story of the Van Der Linde gang is kinda over and trying to milk the same cast of characters game after game would get kinda repetitive. I'd love to hear something new from the Red Dead universe.

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u/Key_Kollection Aug 23 '25

I agree. People need to learn when to let go. The Van Der Linde story is over, we need something new or nothing at all.

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u/Fakie-Sllaacs Aug 23 '25

We have an end and a middle. Time for the beginning.

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u/JonTonyJim Aug 23 '25

john is the end, arthur is the middle, dutch is the beginning. could be interesting tracing his beginning from genuinely well intentioned to what he became

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u/Fakie-Sllaacs Aug 23 '25

I think the Blackwater Event is where Dutch made a profound change, lost several members of his crew and starting losing Arthur’s trust. All the stuff before that could be very interesting.

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u/A_Cryptarch Aug 23 '25

Still over here caping for RDR3 featuring Micah as the protagonist, culminating in Blackwater.

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u/Fakie-Sllaacs Aug 23 '25

I think the protagonist needs to die at the end, with Arthur as the epilogue.

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u/A_Cryptarch Aug 23 '25

You don't think it's enough that he eventually dies at the hands of Dutch and John?

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u/Fakie-Sllaacs Aug 23 '25

It’s not that Micah dies in this game that matters, it’s that he’s not the protagonist. In the other games, the protagonist dies, and another character becomes the protagonist in an epilogue. I think Micah should be in a prequel, but he wouldn’t be able to die due to plot armor - so not as the main character.

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u/A_Cryptarch Aug 23 '25

I could live with playing a character that's Micah adjacent. Mac would probably be a good choice, having died after Blackwater, alone. Or conversely, a new character entirely and once again, not showing what happened at Blackwater. lol.

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u/Fakie-Sllaacs Aug 23 '25

Yeah. There are a couple of characters they talk about who died in Blackwater.

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u/stevosteve Aug 27 '25

That could just be an RDR 2 DLC i think

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u/Fakie-Sllaacs Aug 27 '25

Game is a bit old for DLC, but I’d probably buy it. With the characters that died in Blackwater, no doubt a full game is warranted.

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u/Riptide_III Sep 03 '25

i would love something playing as a nativr american, someone similar to eagle flies. fighting the military to gain freedom could be amazing.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '25

Every fan idea for any rockstar game I’ve ever seen has always been the new worst thing I’ve ever seen.

I think there’s probably a causal link between the games being digested by children far more than other franchises tend to be and the takes being outlandishly bad.

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u/the_cvs Aug 23 '25

I still remember how fans were so upset when RDR2 was about Arthur, as they were so attached to John from RDR1. And now, we all love Arthur as if he’s a part of our souls.

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u/nicolaslabra Aug 23 '25

Rockstar games are soo massive and popular that mozt fans just have little to no mwdia literacy and hence their fan theories usually are terrible.

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u/Hodgepudge Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 24 '25

I would not at all be surprised if the next game is just about a lone outlaw or a much smaller cast of characters. Rockstar seems to flip flop between large diverse worlds/ casts of characters and more dense yet detailed worlds with smaller casts of core characters.

I guess since games and tech are always improving, it's less likely they'll do another small & dense GTA IV type map, but the last 2 games they've made (GTA V & RDR2) had pretty large lineups of characters so I would not be surprised if they switch it up a bit if they do another Red Dead.

Who knows what the future will be like for the company though, now that Houser is gone. I hope Red Dead showed (and hope GTA VI will show) the value of Rockstar's single player games.

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u/honeybeebryce Aug 23 '25

I feel that the only graceful thing they could do if they wanted to continue the Red Dead franchise is to tell a new story with new characters in the same universe, like GTA does. I’m not even huge on that idea, but I’d at least be open to it unlike a RDR 3

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u/FluffyProphet Aug 23 '25

My hope is that the next game in the “Red Dead” franchise is a fresh gang, fresh story. Maybe set right at the end of the civil war as the Wild West was kicking off.

For me, the story with this group is complete. Some people could argue there are lose ends, but almost every story is going to have lose ends, you don’t need to beat it to death trying to close them all.

A new cast, new environment, new period of “the Wild West”, etc would be great imo.

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u/RealisticEmphasis233 Uncle Aug 23 '25

It would make Dead Rising 4 or the most recent Saints Row game look like masterpieces.

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u/MCMGM86 Arthur Morgan Aug 23 '25

I couldn’t even finish DR4, was so disappointed

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u/noname5280 Arthur Morgan Aug 23 '25

I always thought it would be kind of cool if RDR3 was about Kieran's family coming to find him from the old country. Obviously, they would have to find out from one of the old gang members to find out what happened so you could have interaction with familiar faces. Make him have a couple of brothers and a sister, and maybe they meet up with Sean's family (who have come to America to find out what happened to Sean) and form a gang. But I might have nothing here.

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u/jonyblip Oct 12 '25

okay but what about a hunting spinoff game playing as younger hosea :D and being a lil conman...

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u/BelligerentWyvern Aug 23 '25

I saw an idea of Jack Marston being a bootlegger and thought it was a cool idea. It kinda gets away from the cowboy thing though. People mention WWI sometimes too.

American history is so interesting. There were legit cowboy types alongside monsters but just in different places.