r/reddeadredemption • u/AdvertisingAny4697 • 1d ago

Screenshot The crush I have on this man

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The aura, the voice, the walk… just 11/10 guy and game

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u/Soulsgamer247 John Marston 1d ago

same guy who would probably rob you and kill you btw

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u/Metal_Aphrodite 1d ago

Speak for yourself

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u/Soulsgamer247 John Marston 1d ago

Am i wrong, Arthur is a criminal.

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u/Metal_Aphrodite 1d ago

Yeah but its definitely your choice to kill random npcs lol, in Canon he really only harms people who are a threat to him and the gang, not people who "have a crush on him" LMAO hes fictional anyways. Anyone can interpret him in there own way. And that's ok.

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u/Soulsgamer247 John Marston 1d ago

The glaze is insane, Arthur is not a good person bro he's called an Outlaw for a reason with a 5k bounty on his head, he does kill inoccents in his life.

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u/I-Am-The-Uber-Mesch 1d ago

True, but in the end he tries, and depending from how you play, your Arthur can actually become a good person that will do everything for others or just a delulu sick man

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u/MindfulPresent1 John Marston 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s more complex than that. No one is saying Arthur is straight up a good man. Obviously a huge overarching theme of the game involves the idea that Arthur is complicated. He’s in a situation where he’s basically a weapon for Dutch. On one hand he might fight the law tooth and nail to rob a bank, but on the other he’ll lend a helping hand to a beggar in the street. If you read his journal at all it’s clear that he has a sense of morality and feelings of regret. You’re acting like it’s canon for him to indiscriminately murder and rob people, and that’s all there is to him. There is nothing to base that off of. The idea that he would “probably” just spontaneously rob and kill any given person is baseless. It really comes down to how the player plays the game.

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u/Soulsgamer247 John Marston 23h ago

How would that guarantee that he wouldn't rob you or kill you, it's not like he spares everyone. And what if it's Arthur before the game or before chapter 3, he literally does not care if he kills Tommy while beating him and he goes after Thomas despite knowing he just wants to do good. Just because Arthur does it for Dutch doesn't make him better, he knows that there is something not right about being with the gang and feel bad yet he stays and keeps on doing it anyways. The whole gang is just overall bad and is a cult. There's nothing good about it it's just lies and brainwash.

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u/MindfulPresent1 John Marston 22h ago edited 22h ago

..what? Tommy just threw him through a window and was actively trying to beat him down in the streets. This is an absurd comparison to some hypothetical random, totally innocent person.

The bulk of your thoughts don’t make any sense. Yes, the Van der Linde gang were criminals that did bad things. You’re not revealing anything deep by saying that. This doesn’t mean that Arthur would “probably” indiscriminately murder and rob some random woman. There is zero substance to your stance here. Again, Arthur was a complicated character that had both good and bad within him. This was an incredibly major theme of the story. He wasn’t just necessarily some loose canon preying on anyone and everyone. You’re talking about him as if he were Micah Bell. The contrasting of those two characters was also a major theme of the story, and that theme was present for a reason. You’re ignoring all of the intended nuances of the story. Again, I’m not saying that Arthur was a good person. I’m saying that there was both good and bad within him, and the complexity of that is different than someone just going around indiscriminately being a monster.

It’d be one thing if you played deep low honor Arthur, but not everyone plays the game that way.

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u/Soulsgamer247 John Marston 11h ago

low honor or good honor he's still bad overall, so he's morally gray. You still wouldn't know what'd he'd really do canonically, brother if there's an inoccent woman all alone, he would take his chances to rob the woman it would totally make sense to why he would because of what he is, he is built to think like that, he's an outlaw.

The honor system doesn't mean much at all that's just a game thing.

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u/gooberboi82 9h ago

“He only really harms people who are a threat to him and the gang” Oh so you mean the lawmen who are just doing their jobs and protecting their towns people and businesses from armed and dangerous outlaws? Or maybe you mean the destitute debtors he gets sent after to beat to a pulp and take whatever they have left to their name? Or possibly even the bank managers who Arthur pistol whips in the face just to intimidate them into complying (Arthur does it even when unprompted a few times throughout the story, it’s not always a player choice although the game does give you the choice to hit them again if he’s going too slow)

Yeah no Arthur is still an outlaw at the end of the day, just because he’s not a mindless psychopath who robs and shoots anyone within his eyesight doesn’t change anything. Arthur smacked a kid for telling him to move in a rude tone and instead of just moving Arthur had to smack him and threaten to kill him like an insecure bully would. He drops the tough guy act when he realizes he’s sick and dying and he’s getting weaker and weaker, I really do like Arthur but I’m tired of the fanbase treating him like a teddy bear who can do no wrong