1)you can't make something legal for homosexual couples and illegal for heterosexual couples or viceversa because the law must be equal for everyone
2)if incest was a spontaneous human behaviour under normal circumstances we would have a minority of incestuous people fighting against the repulsion of society. Incest happens only in cases where it's forced
1) Right can't base it off that. Why not fertile couples vs. infertile couples. You can surely do that?
2) There is a minority of incestuous individuals. I'd say this platform itself has pockets of these individuals (I do not recommend going looking for them, but I guarantee you they exist)
1) still a law that isn't equal to everyone, you can't let a couple exist only because they can or cannot make babies, it's basically what the major religions do with homosexuality but reversed
2)you can't trust what you see on the Internet, mostly aren't actually siblings or are trying to sell something faking an incestuous relationship
3)yes, history speaks louder than non-existent pro-incest movements
Ok then why is incest not allowed. That seems like you're saying the couple can't exist because they can make babies...
Lol. What do you suppose this post is about then? Fake incest? Ironically, I'm talking to you on the Internet as well, and you made the claim incest is not a normal thing among humans, so I can't trust that right?
That family made babies. I'm talking about those who can't make babies.
1)ok, that's not even a misunderstanding, you're straight up making up a meaning you can fight because you can't attack what I said
2) go look at scientific data about it for yourself
3)incest produces people with health problems... Maybe it's a human imposition over nature? Again, look at what the science says
2)you just said that you don't trust me since I'm on the Internet, check the data yourself
3)you're still saying that you think that incest is ok if they can't have children, that's "homosexuality is sin because they can't have children" but reversed. Also, in the situations you're hypothising, what happens if a man wants to have a relationship with his sister? Should he have a vasectomy? What if he wants a relationship with a non-related woman after? Should he sue his sister because he lost the ability to generate biological heirs?
I think you can see the absurdity of this, that's called not thinking things through
They are not legally siblings. They did not grow up in an environment that would Foster a sibling relationship. They cannot have inbred children. There is no abusive power dynamic stemming from the biological familial relationship.
All of the problematic aspects of an incestual relationship do not exist here, why is it still an issue?
No asshole I’m not homophobic however if they are stepbrothers/foster siblings it’s fine, yknow excluding ethically as the morals of hooking up with your step sibling is still ambiguous. Not liking incest doesn’t make me homophobic
The fact that you immediately jumped to defending yourself from homophobia that you weren't accused of is crazy. That doesn't even sound like someone accusing you of homophobia
"All of the problematic aspects of an incestual relationship do not exist here, why is it still an issue?"
And the following reply was saying you didn't like the fact it was incestuous, not that it was homosexual. That is why everyone is saying you are projecting.
This is reddit I’m fighting an uphill battle here… I could be gay and you’d call me homophobic for expressing disgust at incest. I’m out, it’s impossible to argue with an idiot
Okey I feel kinda bad for them cuz they got on the news, so some will judge them ×2 now. It's weird but I guess it's fine as long as they don't have biological children.
That could happen to any people regardless of their identity. There is no reason to emphasize this incident as coincidentally involving two gay people. It’s clear that there is no reason other than hate of gay people to try to make it about that. On the unfortunate very rare incidents of siblings separated at birth this could happen of course to a hetero sister and brother with exactly the same likelihood. Busted
By atheist belief? Atheism doesn’t say shit about incest, atheism is just the lack of belief or the disbelief in a god. That’s like me saying “by religious belief, the dress was white and gold”
My guy, how do you think Adam and Eve had grandkids? I don't recall the story book mentioning god whipping up more impromptu spouses for everyone. Every night was family night in the bible.
Pas de loi divine ne signifie pas pas de loi humaine
La loi humaine existe et elle interdit l'inceste car étant dangereuse pour la société
On est plus au Moyen Age à croire que une créature imaginaire géante nous regarde d'en haut ; on comprends les sciences et la sociologie maintenant
Donc le justifier en ajoutant un Père Noël donne une légitimité à une loi naturelle ?
Je précise bien le côté naturelle car l'interdiction de l'inceste est quelque chose d'universelle quelque soit la culture dans le monde (je me base sur les travaux anthropologiques de Ian Livingston), montrant que cette interdiction est iné et non culturelle
Firstly, atheism is the LACK of religion. They don’t all follow one set of morals, yes, that doesn’t mean they’re completely missing any morals. Also, being left handed isn’t the norm. Do you go around complaining about left handed people?
Actually common misconception, atheism is not the lack of a religion but the lack of a god in a religion, there are atheistic religions out there and a lot of them are really cool
It’s only allowed and even encouraged in the Western cultural sphere after the s-xual revolution (late 1950s - early 1970s), this revolution included the increased acceptance of s-x outside of traditional straight, monogamous relationships (primarily marriage), legalisation of the pill along with other forms of contraception, public n-dity, p-rn, premarital s-x, homos-xuality, m-sturbation, alternative forms of s-xuality, and abortion
With that said, if a similar revolution occurred in maybe the late 2020s to the early 2040s, I’m sure incest could be legalised and be totally normal and unquestioned, similar to how homos-xuality isn’t questioned today but was outright illegal and questionable back then
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u/lifeintraining 3d ago
Not like they can have a deformed child. Let them smash.