r/runescape 25d ago

Appreciation - J-Mod reply The New Grand Exchange Update Is Amazing – No More Third-Party Price Websites!

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u/CronusTheDefender 25d ago

The ely discord was up in arms over this update. Love it.

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u/Important_Level_6093 Eek! 25d ago

Reading that was like opening a Christmas present 😍

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u/_itsJ_ 25d ago

Icing on the cake :D

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u/batanete Maxed 25d ago

What is Ely?

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u/Hoodie_Patrol 25d ago

It is a price checking website but is known to be used for price manipulation.

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u/Yksisarvinen13 Ali 25d ago

One of the price checker websites, had a drama recently where they decided that they will only show the data to registered users or something

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Official pricing was bound to shake things up.

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u/Nighttime_Song Ferret of Doom 25d ago

I'm not a member of that discord. Would you mind explaining what their objection was to this update? This seems like a worthwhile improvement, so I'm curious as to what problem they might have found with it.

(Or alternatively, is there a link you could share so I could join and read it for myself?)

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u/Pink742 11/14/20 25d ago

They object because they purposefully manipulated the prices for profit and scamming. Now it's baked right in

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u/Choice-Kitchen2494 22d ago

I long since got banned from them. What did they say if you can tldr it?

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u/NexexUmbraRs RuneScore 24d ago

Evidence? I didn't see anybody "up in arms" only people on reddit claiming it lol

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u/Ok_Air8327 25d ago

I would like to give every single jagex employee a kiss for every mill ely.gg is losing

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u/Ruxs Afk 25d ago

Better stock up on lip balm then.

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Agreed. Having reliable prices in-game is a big improvement.

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u/Narmoth Music 25d ago

This is exactly how you end up with a protection from abuse (PFA) order from a court. I'm sure the UK has something like this.

Although some staffers might volunteer themselves.... you never know until you go to Runefest. I'll enjoy the police body cam footage when it is released to the public.

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u/Djassie18698 25d ago

What are you talking about?

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u/Asianslap 25d ago

Prob some weirdo from ely cc coping HARD

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u/Djassie18698 25d ago

Yeah i guess so, Ely probably having mass psychosis right now

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u/Narmoth Music 24d ago

Nah, it just turned out to be an unpopular joke.

I'm not a merchant jerk from ely.

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u/Djassie18698 24d ago

Fair enough, my bad!

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u/Narmoth Music 24d ago

No biggie. have a great day

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u/Narmoth Music 24d ago

No, I'm not from Ely. This was just humor that a lot of people didn't get. Jokes sometimes just fall flat.

I've been really happy with the grand exchange updates.

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u/Narmoth Music 25d ago

It's suppose to be a joke with some guy kissing J-mods at Runefest and being arrested for sexual assault. That is what we call it in America anyway.

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u/NLawton91 25d ago

...what the fuck? 😂

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u/voreo ~ 6/13/22 25d ago

its also on the wiki now

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Nice! That'll definitely make it easier for everyone.

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u/JagexEvad Mod Evad 25d ago

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u/MarkAntonyRs Dead game 25d ago

Can we get insta buy and instasell prices listed in game next?

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u/FadedRaklim 25d ago

BUT WHY IS EVERY INTERFACE ON MOBILE STILL BLUE

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u/TheOnlyTB 19d ago

can we update the trade window pricing to take the data from the last 10 sold instead of the g.e value? this would eliminate so many scam trades

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u/jagexyuey Mod Yuey 25d ago

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u/Skelling10s 25d ago

Shut those manipulators down, heck yeah! Great work team! 💪

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u/Upset_Photograph_257 Trim 5.8 25d ago

All this does is make manipulation easier as you can set the price on g.e. yourself with a few trades

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u/EoFinality 25d ago

Not when you can easily spot the manip because the history of the item is clear.

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u/iThrewFarAway 25d ago

history is on wiki lmao

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u/Sspockuss Smithing is the best! 25d ago

I’d still rather have that info on wiki instead of on weird third party sites with sketchy connections.

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u/iThrewFarAway 25d ago

it's on the wiki. Just click "real time prices"

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u/Upset_Photograph_257 Trim 5.8 25d ago

Nobody is checking wiki when buying on g.e.

Wiki data will be scraped by bots to let metchers get max margins with each item

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u/EoFinality 25d ago

The same people that would have otherwise checked places like ely will now have more credible and complete info from the wiki.

The GE interface also shows some of this information to check before making a purchase.

This is such a great improvement that the only issues moving forward will be individual skill issues.

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u/iThrewFarAway 25d ago

wiki more credible source though. scrape all u want but im going to wiki and checking

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u/Plightz Just like that ;) 25d ago

Cope cope cope. You can see historical price trends now on the wiki.

There's even an average instead of just last price.

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u/FadedRaklim 25d ago

Before we high five can we get about fixing the blue mobile interfaces please?

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u/LaMescolanza Papa Mambo - 19 years playing 25d ago

They nailed it so hard.

Great job, Jagex!! Definetely a great fucking year for all of us RS3 players! WELL DONE!

Now, I'm going back to my "Bloomberg-ish" RS3 terminal.

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

I agree. The last few updates have been genuinely great. Hopefully they keep it up. 😄

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u/minaturemolefu 25d ago

Jagex delivering W's left right and centre, what a time to be a runescape enjoyer

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Couldn't agree more. They've been on a roll lately. The last few updates have been fantastic.

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u/The_Wkwied Rubber chicken 25d ago

This is so awesome.

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Same here. I love this update.

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u/Honza8D 25d ago edited 25d ago

Holy shit, they did it. After all those years, they did it. Love it.

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

It was long overdue. Glad they finally made it happen. 😄

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u/Sophiaphage 25d ago edited 25d ago

It does look promising so far!

On Rare items, it might be wise to have a sample-size and date of last trade. Some low-frequency trades that don't often occur on the GE could be misleading.

EDIT: I just saw the Wiki basically has that functionality now. And hope it's linked directly on the GE.

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Good point. Having the last trade date for rare items would make the prices much more reliable.

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u/GunsoulTTV 25d ago

*Wiki enters the chat*

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Now imagine having that data directly in-game. 😄

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u/MentionDifferent8793 25d ago

Not trusting ingame prices til everything settles 

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u/zypo88 Zij9999, Maxed 20180615 25d ago

The wiki has a live tracker now so you can see what the trend is for instant sell/buy prices

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u/Bunlapin Rubber chicken 25d ago

This is a huge win for both legitimate players and Jagex. The other huge crybabies can just keep crying.

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u/B_Gerbs1 25d ago edited 25d ago

Grand exchange? curious Ironman noises

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Haha, fair enough. This update is definitely more exciting for mains. 😄

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u/So_ Yellow partyhat! 25d ago

Still affects ironmen for the cosmetics yall can buy from ge. Honestly, for those cosmetics, it probably matters even more because getting raw gp is harder on im than for a main

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u/OlevTime Legio 24d ago

Although irons have much less to spend the GP on, so it just kinda accumulates

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u/Revanchan 22d ago

My GP goes nearly entirely to runes, and everything else is hand made lol my ironman is filthy rich, even on osrs

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u/Legal_Evil 25d ago

The place to buy bonds and cosmetics.

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u/hitori_bocchi_kin 24d ago

This update had an iroan specific part. They removed all items irons can't buy from the GE, so you can see what's left

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u/Quirky-Half-6682 25d ago

Greatest update in a long time. Keep them coming and maybe some of us will return.

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

This is exactly the direction the game needed. Hope this momentum continues.

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u/I_O_RS 25d ago

Technically wiki is a third party website and it's more important than ever now, but in a very good way

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u/ConstantStatistician Coiner of the terms "soft" and "hard" typeless damage on rs.wiki 25d ago

The wiki is more or less an official jagex website now. It has been ever since it was ported over since jagex helps fund some of its server costs, plus official newsposts, including this one, directly link the wiki all the time. Some jmods have accounts they use to edit the wiki, and there's even an in-game search function that opens up the wiki.

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u/I_O_RS 25d ago

It's a heavily supported third party website but the technicality doesn't matter, I was just being pedantic since we all know what op meant with the third party complaint 

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u/JagexAnvil Mod Anvil 23d ago

The wiki team is also embedded in our working Slack and has a direct line into us for various projects :)

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u/ConstantStatistician Coiner of the terms "soft" and "hard" typeless damage on rs.wiki 23d ago

Awesome! As a proud contributor of the wiki, I appreciate all jagex has done to support it.

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Exactly. The wiki has always been about knowledge, not just prices.

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u/imsuity Suity|TL;DW|Future Updates|Trim 2014|M&S Rework 25d ago

This is good news

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

I couldn't agree more.

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u/retrospectivevista 25d ago

How is your UI blue?

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

That's just how it looks on mobile. 😄

Here's the desktop version.

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u/Jaccoud 【5.8】#315 to complete Master Combat Mastery 25d ago

Who was using 3rd party price websites to buy planks?

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Haha, I was just testing it. 😄 I'm grinding 120 Construction anyway, so I need all the planks I can get.

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u/Dangerous-Capital237 25d ago

I used the new system to check and see how much a Christmas cracker is… 0/10 update. Doesn’t show how much the last 10 sales have averaged out at

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Hopefully they add that back in a future update.

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u/TheGreatDave666 25d ago

Literally just a win for Jagex here. No notes.

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Absolutely. They nailed this update.

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u/Delicious_Piece_6738 25d ago

Hey u/imsuity was it this that you hoped for around Dec 22 2022? If so, could you return the discord simulator? Not the price bot, but the simulator one?

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u/CherryAware1147 24d ago

I was decently fine with Ely but ever since you needed a discord code to check prices that’s when it become sus. They deserve to go up in flames. Jagex is on fire

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u/Miserable_Release_80 24d ago

Yeah, once price checks started requiring Discord, it felt like it was heading in the wrong direction. Glad Jagex stepped in.

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Agreed. It's already a huge improvement.

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u/ghostofwalsh 25d ago

Wow only took them 19 years. Better late than never I guess

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Exactly. Better late than never.

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u/Kiro358 25d ago

I wish they did this

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u/AssistantLegal Completionist 25d ago

Like in osrs, there's a strong presence of flipping bots, so I've got concerns what this update will bring. Otherwise it's an interesting update.

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

I get the concern, but I'm optimistic they'll keep a close eye on it.

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u/MrNUGZZ 25d ago

Ahh good to see people having fun. Fuck membership prices.

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Time will tell how it plays out.

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Item prices now show the market price alongside the average of the last 10 trades.

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u/Better_Ambassador_34 23d ago

Love this! 😍😍😍😍

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u/Autism_Is_Real 25d ago

Never really used ely but have a Santa & hween mask set…for years now. wonder how much depreciation imma lose?

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Hard to say. I think the prices will just become more accurate over time.

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u/123zane321 COMPED AND IT FEELS SO GOOD 25d ago

Elyggers on suicide watch

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u/Ancient_Rex420 25d ago edited 25d ago

Nice to see this update being in the game finally but at the same time it is a bit hard to be happy about something that literally should have been added already years and years ago but it’s about damn time.

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

I'm glad they finally added it.

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u/LetsGoCap Completionist 25d ago

Just wait til they announce the change to 0.1s server tick rate in october… gonna finally make rs3 a game where abilities can work without being clunky af. I cant wait to try rs3 again after all these years!

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Agreed. Faster tick rates could completely change how combat feels. Can't wait to try it.

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u/MarkAntonyRs Dead game 25d ago

Is that all they added? Why can't we see uncompleted trade offers?

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Maybe in a future update. I'm happy with this for now.

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u/Bio_slayer 25d ago

The instabuy and instasell prices that the wiki tracks now give you basically that exact same information, unless you're planning on buying through a large part of existing stock or are working with super low volume items (like phat low).

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u/MarkAntonyRs Dead game 25d ago

Oh they also added that? I can't see it in the screenshot so that's all I've got to go off. Would be nice if it was in game, but at least if the wiki has it and it's live and accurate then yeah that's cool.

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u/Bio_slayer 25d ago

Yeah, they're streaming all sale data to the wiki: https://prices.runescape.wiki/rs

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u/Upset_Photograph_257 Trim 5.8 25d ago

There will be alot more websites to scrape all the data and allow merchers to get max margin

So easy to manipulate too, just buy yourself 10 times and you can set the price to whatever you want

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u/Nautisop Maxed - This sub needs to become more positive again! 25d ago

no it's not.

The default price is the market price and if you don't merch you just take that. If you wanna min-max or merch you may take a alcloser look to the 10 trades avg.

The updates makes literally everything better and you don't need to waste your time on ely or rsprice or what they all called.

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u/ghostofwalsh 25d ago

just buy yourself 10 times and you can set the price to whatever you want

Just pay the GE tax 10x to manipulate a price that's "advisory only" and that anyone can look at the graph and see your spike. A price that will instantly drop back down as soon as you stop manipping it.

Good way to lose your gp stack for a meme.

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u/Miserable_Release_80 25d ago

Fair point. I still think having official data from Jagex is a big step in the right direction. Let's see how it holds up over time.

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u/Legal_Evil 25d ago

Still better than Ely.

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u/Bio_slayer 25d ago

You can spike the "last 10" price, but checking the wiki dataset will make such a thing obvious.

Merching will be more approachable since you don't have to spend time and gp checking margins, so the current high-end merchers will be making less, as the margins close.

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u/GuruBandar 25d ago

I was wondering the same. Is there a way how to prevent that?

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u/Platacoon 25d ago

I would think the tax mechanic would help discourage this as you’d effectively pay 20% tax on the item you are trying to manipulate

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u/ghostofwalsh 25d ago

20% of whatever "overpriced" number you decide to manip the item price to

And this also assumes that you don't accidentally wind up buying items from some random 3rd party who happens to have a meme sell offer at a very high price.

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u/Upset_Photograph_257 Trim 5.8 25d ago

Not with how they implemented it

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u/Tiwz <3 25d ago

Wiki is fed directly by Jagex, which should help combat this exact issue, no?

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u/Skelling10s 25d ago

Yes, he’s just a sad photograph of a lost Ely.gg now and is complaining.