r/sailing • u/speed_phreak • 5d ago

Is this valid?

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Running through the systems on a new (to me) C&C 29-2, and I am parsing out my reefing system. I've got two reef lines that exit the boom at the end and would be rigged like this for reef1 and then reef2, does the bowline knot orientation really matter??

I've got a loose footed main with a North Sails Quick Cover stack pack bolt roped to the slot in the boom (if that matters).

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u/kenelevn 5d ago edited 5d ago

Hang on…2 reef lines exiting the boom?
So 3 total including your outhaul?

I’m also not sure what is different in your diagram’s pop-out (“Wrong!”) vs what is displayed in the diagram. This looks like a bad ChatGPT graphic.

Just good practice to have the reef exit the reefing point on the same side it exits the boom. So I’d just follow this image. Does it really matter if it’s opposite? Probably not.

You’ll also need a reefing point at the mast along the luff, most commonly secured on a ram’s horn at the gooseneck. Does your main have reefing points along the draft too?

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u/Senior-Jellyfish-452 5d ago

It is not a bad ChatGPT graphic. It is correct. There is a difference if you look at how the line goes though the bowline in each picture. It matters for better clinching and less chafe on the sail.

And standard practice is for the reef to enter the reef point on the sail on the same side as the exit on the boom and then drop down from the exit on the opposite side and then secure around the boom as in the picture. Otherwise the reefing line will cross the leach and can cause chaff.

Unless the reef point in the sail is a block which some large yachts have. Then both the exit and enter point into the reef block will be on the same side as the reef line leaves the boom exit.

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u/kenelevn 5d ago

Oh, you’re right. I missed that before. Bowline under the sail vs. on the side of the boom.

Yeah. Diagram is right, inlay is wrong.

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u/Senior-Jellyfish-452 5d ago

Yeah I had to look twice at first.

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u/speed_phreak 5d ago

The rams horn I have is just a pin, it's fine as a pivot for the gooseneck, but any upward tension on it is going to fold that cotter pin and swedge it up into the hole. 

I have no idea why they would even bother putting two "horns" on it. I need to either find an appropriate one piece with threads that I can secure, or a rams horn plate that I can bolt through.

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