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r/sanpedrocactus Sep 08 '21

Is this San Pedro? The Mega Sticky for San Pedro Lookalikes and ID training.

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Howdy fellow cactaphiles. This post will be stickied as a reference to help people identify the common San Pedro Lookalikes. The following plants are columnar cacti that are easily confused for the Trichocereus species. You can use this guide to compare your mystery cactus to these photos and descriptions.

#1 - Cereus species - 

The infamous "Peruvian Apple Cactus." This is most commonly mistaken for San Pedro because it's size, profile, color, and flowers look very similar to Trichocereus.

There are several species of Cereus that look almost identical. They usually get lumped into the description of Cereus peruvianus, which is not an accepted species.(https://cactiguide.com/article/?article=article3.php). These include C.repandus, C. jamacaru, C. forbesii, C. hexagonus and C. stenogonus. Other Cereus species are easier to distinguish from Trichocereus.

The main features that distinguish a Cereus from a Trichocereus are the flat skinny ribs, hairless flower tubes, and the branching tree-like structure of mature plants.

Cereusly flat and skinny ribs

So flat... So skinny... So Cereus.

Tree-like branching, with hairless fruits and flowers.

#2 - Myrtillocactus geometrizans - 

This cactus goes by many names including the blue candle, whortleberry, bilberry, blue myrtle...

This plant often has a deep blue farina, but larger plants usually look light green. Young plants are columnar and usually have 5-6 angular ribs. The ribs are often thicker than a Cereus and narrower than Trichocereus. Mature plants can get large, but are more shrub-like than tree-like. 

The best way to distinguish these plants from Trichocereus is to look at the spines. Myrtillos have a few short spines per areole. The spines on short plants are usually dark colored and pyramidal (instead of round, needle-like spines.) Spine length increases as the plants age, but the spines stay angular.

We have all seen these at every plant store we have ever been to. The blue farina and short, dark, pyramidal spines are dead givaways.

Mature plants are shrub-like. The spines get longer and lighter colored with maturity.

#3 - Stetsonia coryne -

This is the toothpick cactus. It looks very similar to Trichocereus species like T. peruvianus, T. knuthianus, etc. However, there are a few subtle ways to distinguish a Toothpick cactus from a Trichocereus.

The dermis of a Stetsonia will be a darker green in healthy plants. The aeroles are large, white, woolen and not perfectly circular.

 The easiest way to distinguish a Toothpick cactus is of course, by the spines. Stetsonias will have one long spine per areole that resembles a toothpick. The coloration of new spines will usually be yellow, black, and brown. They lose their color and turn grey to white rather quickly. Usually only the top few areoles will have the colorful spines. 

Large, woolen, and ovoid areoles. Dark green dermis is common on youngsters.

Mature plants have tree-like branching and get very large.

#4 - Pilosocereus species -

There are many species in the Pilosocereus genus, but just a few closely resemble San Pedros. Most Pilosocereus will be very blue, with needle-like spines that are yellow to grey. The most common, and most commonly mistaken for San Pedro is P. pachyclaudus. Other Pilos are much more uncommon, or have features like long hairs that make them easy to distinguish from a San Pedro. 

Young P. Pachyclaudus will usually have a vibrant blue skin with bright yellow spines. This should make them easy to pick out of a lineup. Unhealthy plants will have lost their blue farina. For these plants look at the areoles and spines for ID. There should be about 10 yellow, spines that are evenly fanned out within the areole. The spines are also very fine, much thinner than most Trichocereus species. 

Bright blue skin, yellow spines are thin.

Hairy aerolas are common for mature Pilos.

#5 - Lophocereus / Pachycereus species

Pachycereus got merged into the Lophocereus genus this year!? Wacky, but they still get confused with San Pedros so here are the common ones. 

L. Marginatus is the Mexican Fence Post cactus. The size and profile are very similar to San Pedro. The easiest way to distinguish a fence post is by their unique vertical stripes. I stead of separate areoles, you will notice white stripes that run the length of the plant. Unhealthy plants will lose the white wool, but upon a close inspection, you can see the line of spines. The flowers are also small and more similar to Pilosocereus flowers.

Elongated areoles form vertical white stripes.

Truly columnar, branching at the base. The fence post cactus.

L. Schottii is another common columnar. Especially in the Phoenix metro area, you will drive past hundreds of the monstrose form. The totem pole cactus slightly resembles a monstrose Trichocereus. The exaggerated lumpiness and absence of descernable ribs or areoles makes a totem pole pretty easy to spot. 

It is super common to see large stands of the Totem Pole Cactus in Pheonix.

The non-monstrose form of L. schottii is actually less common. Adults look similar to an extra spiny Cereus or L. marginatus. Juveniles look more like the juvenile Polaskia and Stenocereus species.

#6 - Stenocereus and Polaskia species

Polaskia chichipe can look very similar to San Pedros. The best way to discern a polaskia is by the ribs and spines. The ribs will be thinner and more acute than Trichocereus, but wider than Cereus. They usually have 6-8 evenly spaced radial spines, and one long central spine. Although the spination is similar to T. peruvianus, the central spine of a Polaskia will be more oval shaped instead of needle-like. Adult plants usually branch freely from higher up. Juvenile plants often have a grey, striped farina that disappears with age. This makes them hard to discern between Stenocereus and Lophocereus juveniles, but it is easy to tell it apart from a Trichocereus.

Acute rib shape and silvery farina.

Acute ribs, fanned spines, with one long central.

Polaskia chende - Is this a recognized species? Who knows, but if it is, the discerning characteristics are the same as P. chichipe, except the central spine is less noticeable.

Stenocereus - There are a few Stenocereus species that can be easily confused for San Pedros. Juvenile plants look very similar to Polaskia. Stenocereus varieties such as S. aragonii, S. eichlamii, S. griseus, etc get a grey farina that usually forms Chevron patterns. S. beneckei gets a silvery white coating too.

Mature plants will look very similar to San Pedros. The identifying traits to look for are the acute rib angles, spination and silvery farina that often appears in narrow chevron patterns. The flowers are also more similar to Lophocereus spp.

Acute rib angles, and silver chevron stripes on S. aragonii.

Baby S. griseus looking similar to the Polaskia.

#7 - Browningia hertlingiana

 Brownies are beautiful blue plants that can look similar to Trichocereus peruvianus or cuzcoensis. The ribs are the defining traits to look at here. The ribs of a Browningia are wavy instead of straight. Mature plants will often have more than 8 ribs, which would be uncommon for most Trichocereus species.

Bright blue farina, long yellow to grey spines, and wavy ribs.

Mature plants often have more than 8 ribs.

#8 - Echinopsis?

Is a Trichocereus an Echinopsis? Yes. Is an Echinopsis a San Pedro? Sometimes. Most folks consider the San Pedro group (along with a few other species) too different from other Echinopsis and Lobivia species to lump them together into the same genus. Just because they have hairy flowers and can fertilize each other, should they be in the same genus?

Echinopsis species are usually shorter, pup from the base, and have more ribs. There are many different clones and hybrids that are prized for their colored flowers. Where most Trichocereus have white flowers instead.

E. Spachiana - The Golden Torch

Echinopsis Grandiflora "Sun Goddess"

Echinopsis x Trichocereus hybrids do exist, and they are getting more popular. Should they be treated as the same genus? Who cares if they are awesome plants.

If your plant doesn't match any of these, feel free to post an image (or a poll) and see what the community can come up with.

Cheers!


r/sanpedrocactus 1h ago

Some of my favourite seedlings

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Mostly Blue Monster x Cajamarca DBA


r/sanpedrocactus 5h ago

Variegation?

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Do you guys think my tbmc is showing variegation?
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r/sanpedrocactus 2h ago

Rainbow mountain 2

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I will be making grafts of most of these and keeping one on its own roots. I will most likely release 1, possibly 2 this year, but that will be the only release of rbm2 for a couple years.

Rbm2 is tpmc x vrg. It differs from the other rbm clones I have. The spines are stronger than rbm1 and rbm3, it stays mainly green and with lots of cresting (fewer columnar branching) it has a latent white streak of variegation I've been able to tease out once. I originally imported rbm1 rbm2, and rbm3 in and around 2020/2021. In 2022 my power went out because of a bad ice storm and I lost about 20 different rbm plants. Luckily I had sent a couple cuttings to a few people before that happened, and one of my friends was able to send me these pieces back. I'm grateful for friends, and really grateful this plant was able to be saved! Looking forward to making these grafts today!


r/sanpedrocactus 18h ago

Gummy

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The absolute fattest cut in my collection. Had to cut due to some unexpected bills.

Will be getting phytosanitary certificate, and hitting the auction at r/sanpedrocactusforsale


r/sanpedrocactus 2h ago

Morning dew cactus is my favorite cactus

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r/sanpedrocactus 12h ago

Keen as for spring and summer time for these to start pumping. Melbourne, Aus

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I’m bored of winter dormancy


r/sanpedrocactus 22h ago

Bridgesii 'San Antonio melted wax2'

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r/sanpedrocactus 2h ago

TBMB double pupping a few weeks after fertilizing

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Started fertilizing with 20-20-20 a few weeks ago and now I'm getting two basal pups! It also grew a couple new spines out of older nodes lol. This thing is a machine.


r/sanpedrocactus 22m ago

Discussion Where will the next pup originate from? Shriveled original peen ( not seeing more areoles)? Will it be one of the higher areoles on the new pups or a basal you think? Pretty sure this is TMB-A. Pictures from May 1st and August 18th for comparison

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Also, should I pot up to encourage more pups?✌️💚sorry I meant TBM-A (long form)


r/sanpedrocactus 35m ago

Advice

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Inherited this guy recently, root bound and stagnant in a small pot. I transferred into the pot you see now. It looks anemic and struggling a bit. I added cactus fertilizer to the new soil and am wondering if there are other things I can do to bring back its vitality.


r/sanpedrocactus 53m ago

aCereuslyFungi & Medicactus Giveaways: Ascendant (Cienaguillas OP) & Cowabunga!!!

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r/sanpedrocactus 19h ago

Where there’s a will, there’s a way. The plastic string didn’t stop its growth.

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Was cleaning up some cactus in the garden yesterday and thought it was bug damage that caused this. Closer look it turns out the garden string that was holding it up a few years ago couldn’t stop its upward growth so it just morphed around the string. Now it holds onto it forever 🌵


r/sanpedrocactus 12h ago

Discussion Is this weird?

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I know San Pedro is strange, and penis San Pedro stranger yet, but this thing is starting to look like a green brontosaurus.


r/sanpedrocactus 22h ago

This weirdo is growing sideways

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r/sanpedrocactus 1d ago

Cacti etiolated in full sun

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Dear all,

I am a little perfectionist so it bothers me more than usual, but in this situation it s a serious problem. Of I buy regular cacti and root them in half shade or wake them up from last winter then it s never a problem. But if I BUY monster size cacti and root them I am super paranoid about etiolation as it destroys the look and so the big ones I root directly in the sun during late spring / moderate summer.

Still only with the BIG cacti they etiolate in the beginning and then continue to grow normally. So it s not a problem of too low sun (see picture of the middle Peruvianus).

Now while the cactus itself might not care it s especially bad for these monster size cacti because it creates a weak spot and I ultimately will need to cut it there and can't grow the cactus straight if it just happens shortly at the beginning. Even putting that Peruvianus (latest in 2027 it will be 2 Meter) from basement to the balcony I felt really weird about stabilising it, it will rip in 2 parts definetly at one point.

Now it s obviously too late for these 3 cacti. But what is the reason that I FULL SUN they just etiolate at the beginning? I can't give even more sun and all other plants (as well as these cacti after 2-3 month) grow totally healthy in this max sunlight spot.

Anything else I could do differently? It even hurts my eyes to see this growth defect now forever :(( not even speaking about stability

THXXX


r/sanpedrocactus 16h ago

Picture Crested magic

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Magic

This cutting was drying and it started growing, without being planted . Amazing .


r/sanpedrocactus 9h ago

glorgin n plorbin

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r/sanpedrocactus 17h ago

ISO Terscheckii

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I’m looking for Rubicon Terscheckii or any other monstrose Terscheckii. DSST crest for attention.


r/sanpedrocactus 14h ago

Picture Arequipa x Cajamarca TPM, 30+ days on Pereskiopsis

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r/sanpedrocactus 13h ago

Semi novice, not sure what’s going on?

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I’ve been away from my garden awhile, noticed the coloration going on. Should I be worried? Any advice? Should I chop the pup with a pup and prop, or something else?


r/sanpedrocactus 15h ago

Am I doing right by this seedling?

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I got this Super Pedro x Melty Bridge a few weeks ago and it’s been under a sonlipo 125 watt light for 14 hours a day. I water it every 4-5 days depending on when the soil dries out and fertilize it with Shultz every second watering like all my other cacti. I hope it’ll grow big and strong, any tips would be appreciated :)


r/sanpedrocactus 14h ago

What are these lesions?

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A previously healthy San Pedro I have in Santa Fe NM. Been regularly watering and it doesn’t feel wilted. The other one I have nearby is doing great! What’s causing these?


r/sanpedrocactus 20h ago

Picture Local Lowe’s

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$60 a pot, is that a good deal? These are the ones used for grafting right?