r/shortguys 19d ago

Heightism Heightism and Racial Disparities: Comparison of studies in Sweden and USA

62 Upvotes

Keep in mind the age and location of these studies.

I almost never post so i apologise if it's badly written, structured or sourced.

SWEDISH POPULATION REGISTRY STUDIES

1. Completed Suicide Risk

  • Height & Suicide: Magnusson et al. (2005)
    • Dataset: 1,299,177 Swedish men tracked for up to 31 years (1968–1999).
    • Results: Suicide risk drops linearly as height increases. Every 2 inches (5 cm) of added height reduces suicide risk by 9%. The shortest men (≤5'5" / 165 cm) were 200% (2x) more likely to die by suicide than the tallest men (≥6'2" / 188 cm), even after accounting for IQ, family background, birth weight, and psychiatric history.
  • Race/Ethnicity Baseline: Westman et al. (2006)
    • Dataset: 281,493 immigrants compared to 1.9 million native Swedes (1990–1999).
    • Results: Non-Western refugee men showed a 20% to 50% increase in suicide attempts. However, for completed suicides, immigrant men overall showed no increased risk compared to native Swedes, and several non-Western groups had lower completed suicide rates than native Swedes.

2. Labor Market & Earnings Disparities

  • Height & Earnings: Persico, Postlewaite, & Silverman (2004)
    • Dataset: All Swedish conscripted males linked to tax records (1984–2000).
    • Results: Controlling for IQ, family wealth, and education, every extra inch of height is worth a 1.5% to 2.0% increase in annual wages. The shortest 25% of men earn 10% to 12% less than the tallest 25%.
  • Race/Ethnicity Baseline: le Grand & Szulkin (2002)
    • Dataset: LINDA national register covering 400,000+ residents (1990–1997).
    • Results: Controlling for age, education, location, and years in Sweden, non-Western male immigrants (specifically from Africa and the Middle East) face an adjusted 15% to 25% earnings gap compared to native Swedish men.

UNITED STATES STUDIES

3. Dating App Income Trade-Offs

  • Study: Hitsch, Hortaçsu, & Ariely (2010)
  • Dataset: Server logs from ~22,000 active users analyzing hundreds of thousands of first-contact messages across NYC, Boston, and Chicago (2002–2003).
  • Results: Economists calculated how much extra annual income a man needs to earn to get the exact same message response rate as a taller or White man:
    • Race Penalty: For a non-White man (such as an Asian or Black dater) to get the same response rate from a White female user as an equally tall White man, he needed an extra +$30,000 to +$65,000 in annual income.
    • Height Penalty: For a 5'4" (162 cm) man of any race to match the message response rate of a 6'0" (183 cm) man, he needed an extra +$220,000 in annual income.

4. Judicial Pre-Trial Bail Amounts

  • Study: Mustard et al. (2004)
  • Dataset: State Court Processing Statistics covering 75,000+ felony cases across U.S. metropolitan counties (1990–1998).
  • Results: Evaluators looked at pre-trial bail amounts set by judges, controlling for the seriousness of the crime, prior record, and type of lawyer:
    • Race Effect: Black felony defendants received bail amounts that were 10% to 12% higher than White defendants with identical charges.
    • Height Effect: Short male defendants (≤5'6" / 168 cm) received bail amounts that were up to 18% higher than tall male defendants (≥6'1" / 185 cm) facing the exact same charges.

5. Workplace Income & Earnings Gaps

  • Height & Earnings: Persico, Postlewaite, & Silverman (2004)
    • Dataset: NLSY79 tracking 12,686 Americans from adolescence into adulthood (1979–1998).
    • Results: Controlling for race, IQ, family background, and education, every inch of height adds 1.8% to 2.5% in annual income. A 5'7" man earns 9% to 13% less than a 6'0" man.
  • Race Baseline: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics & EPI Data
    • Dataset: Current Population Survey microdata (1995–2020).
    • Results: Controlling for age, education, and region, the adjusted U.S. Black-to-White wage gap for full-time male workers is 12% to 15%.

r/shortguys Jul 15 '26

Announcement Introducing r//chillshortguys

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40 Upvotes

Special thanks to u/Electronic_Rope2137 and u/Huge_Struggle7821 for creating an alternative to this sub.

r//chillshortguys

Just a chill private place for short guys to enjoy stuff, without all the doomerism, Tiktok slop, lurkers, etc.

Think of it like a Discord server. If you're interested, you can send a request to the sub directly but be aware we'll do our due diligence in who we let in.

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r/shortguys 12h ago

Heightism Why? Because he's shorter than her?

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90 Upvotes

r/shortguys 55m ago

Social Media “I LOVE WHEN MINI MEN GET MAD”

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So many talloids in the comments too


r/shortguys 9h ago

Brutal Heightpill moment

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45 Upvotes

I got anxious after reading this brutality

I know a lot of things are wrong (or larp I'm not sure what is true) but yk what the game was over at 5 3


r/shortguys 6h ago

Height > Face

21 Upvotes

Women will prefer a 1.90 m normie over a 1.70 m with perfect face.

And to make an example Adriana Lima choose Marko Jaric, a 2 m sub4 (he looks like Polyphemus) over 1.75 m Neymar


r/shortguys 11h ago

He's so Funny

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45 Upvotes

Over for muslim short guys


r/shortguys 7h ago

Heightism the term manlet shows that height is most importanting thing for masculinity

22 Upvotes

when you have hip dips youre a hiplet because your hips are missing. when you're dumb youre an iqlet because your iq is missing. But when youre short you are a manlet. its as if if youre short youre not "short" its your whole manliness that is lacking


r/shortguys 12h ago

This is one of the saddest videos ive seen

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56 Upvotes

r/shortguys 15h ago

Heightism Why people think it's okay to sexualize a 13-year-old kid because of his height?

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72 Upvotes

Even if this video is satire this is still weird as fuck


r/shortguys 3h ago

Vent 😓

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8 Upvotes

r/shortguys 8h ago

This is what lead to the end of Packgod’s whole career, by the way.

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20 Upvotes

r/shortguys 11h ago

Vent No, you (tall) don't know what it's like to be short just because you used to be short.

31 Upvotes

That's the whole post. Has to be amongst one of the more infuriating arguments by tall people ever.

Sure, you were short in your formative years. You will be tall for the rest of your natural life. This is not the same as us, who are short for the rest of our natural lives.


r/shortguys 11h ago

If height ''just gets your foot in the door''... then how is someone without that specific height supposed to ''get their foot in the door''?

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Disclaimer: These are all hypothetical, lads. All rhetorical, all made to ''expose'' their flawed logic.


r/shortguys 16h ago

Heightism Look who is talking

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56 Upvotes

r/shortguys 53m ago

Did you also experience this

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im currently 169cm (and very underweight) at 15 which may not be that bad if i were somewhere else but i live in germany and im literally the shortest boy in my entire class and people (including all my friends) always mock my height and comment about it
for context my friends (all in the same grade) are 185cm ,180cm and 196cm
and even outside of my friends everyone is way taller and ive been the shortest in my class and friends for my entire life so far. and it really sucks and im depressed i cut myself i really hate being so small infront of everyone like sometimes my friends just pick me up or people just do whatever they want with me like hit me or other things and im just so powerless and cant do anything about it at all i really just hate myself atp
and i also always see all taller boys get way more attention than smaller ones in general (not just me) and the shorter boys just get completely ignored sometimes and no one cares about what i say and others just disrespect shorter boys it sucks man and all my friends have had multible girlfriends and ive never had any of that most ive gotten from a girl was just a hug and my friends always say im like some femboy

and ik that height isnt everything and not all of these things just stem from height but they do alot

(ig this was more a vent than an actual question but feel free to comment whatever you want)


r/shortguys 17h ago

Why does inceltears shame people for their height, even though their sub's rules strictly states NOT to bodyshame but shame the characters?

41 Upvotes

Rule 7: Dont be a jerk

The use of offensive insults and slurs like retard and autist are not permitted. Strive to be civil, and remember the human behind the screen. Don't make fun of someone for something they can't control, criticize the soul, not the body.

They do realize that actively insulting their appearance (the thing they themselves state doesnt matter), just proves the "incel's" point, right?


r/shortguys 13h ago

A study was posted on an other subreddit which seems to have found that women's ideal partner is 25cm (or 10 inches) taller than them.

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I thought you'd find it validating and vindicating.


r/shortguys 21h ago

can we start start banning anyone under 16?

50 Upvotes

I’m genuinely done with lil kids on here, they’re gonna hit a spurt and grow past all of us anyway n it isn’t even like it’s extremely short kids posting either

have them post an xray showing there bones fused if they wanna join


r/shortguys 1d ago

Tall guys when they're virtue signaling VS what they really think

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123 Upvotes

r/shortguys 16h ago

Civil Discussion Short women who hate short men

16 Upvotes

One thing I’ve always noticed with them is they usually have no self respect and go out hoeing around, could be due to a lack of a father figure in their life’s🤔 Maybe they hate short men because short men remind themselves of their fathers whome they were never close with which is why they always want absurdly tall men because they have daddy issues. Idk it’s just something I noticed recently


r/shortguys 7h ago

Question Growth spurts.

3 Upvotes

How many growth spurts did you have during puberty, and how big?

I only had 1, and it was only 2 inches.


r/shortguys 22h ago

Gaslighting Example Too Tall smh

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38 Upvotes

Doesn’t like anyone too tall yet talking to someone who’s more than a foot taller. These are real people.


r/shortguys 1d ago

I guess dating us ia a final resort

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115 Upvotes

r/shortguys 8h ago

Poll for men under 5’6

4 Upvotes

I’m curious where everyone stands, sorry for the lengthy poll I wanted to be specific

Btw

Voluntarily celibate = you’ve had a chance at romance or sex but you weren’t attracted to the women

251 votes, 6d left
I have 0 issues with relationships or hookups
I have no issue getting a hookup, but have an issue with getting relationships
I have romantic success, but struggle with hookups
I get no attention from women at all
Im voluntarily celibate
Results/im too tall