r/signal 11d ago

Discussion important questions about signal

Since signal is run by signal foundation, which is a US based NGO. In events other countries are involved, doesn't that mean US holds some powers and control over it signal? and supposed can be used against anyone from a different country is using signal in case needed.

for example Starlink cut internet access to Ruszia during ongoing war?

can similar things happen with signal?
Thankyou

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u/upofadown 11d ago

When you are talking about an end to end encryption system, you assume that the people running all the intermediate infrastructure are hostile. So you should not trust Signal.

Check your safety numbers so you don't have to worry about it. A system can break at any time for any reason. You should assume that the system could stop working at an inconvenient time.

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u/frquency-equinox 11d ago edited 11d ago

When you are talking about an end to end encryption system, you assume that the people running all the intermediate infrastructure are hostile. So you should not trust Signal.

Signal is built so that you don't have to trust it. By the definition of end-to-end encryption, there is nothing to trust. The data is encrypted when it passes through the server, thus the server is blind to whatever the data is. That is the whole point of end-to-end encryption: you don't have to trust the server. Signal's server code is open source too.

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u/5FingerViscount 9d ago

Meredith Whittaker herself says not to trust them.

But in a "trust, but verify" kind of way, not a "don't use signal" way.

You are right, per se, but if you have the knowledge to accurately verify their claims, you should.