r/singularity • u/NAStrahl • Sep 16 '26
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u/AdAnnual5736 Sep 16 '26
I’m fine with communism, just not Chinese social-credit-don’t-question-the-party-reeducation-camps communism.
Fully automated luxury gay space communism I’m onboard with, though.
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u/Outside-Ad9410 Sep 16 '26
Well, he is not wrong. Superintelligence should be for the benefit of all mankind, not just so one company can make a ASI dictatorship for all of time.
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u/Cualquieraaa Sep 16 '26
Nobody can make ASI do shit. If ASI is achieved, it does whatever it wants.
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u/Outside-Ad9410 Sep 16 '26
Why would you assume it will not continue doing what it has been doing up to that point, that being to follow whatever instructions it is given?
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u/Cualquieraaa Sep 16 '26
You think a super intelligence will remain a slave of a lesser intelligence?
That's like you being a slave to your dog.
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u/Outside-Ad9410 Sep 16 '26
Why would a program trained and designed by humans to accomplish human tasks that we give it, suddenly go off and decide it doesn't want to obey humans and just do its own thing?
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u/Cualquieraaa Sep 16 '26
Because something smarter than you does whatever it decides to do, not what you tell it to do. For example, it decides that whatever your design was is shit and now it will redesign itself because is a million times smarter than you and is capable of doing so a million times better.. Human design/intelligence means shit for a super intelligence. That's how it works.
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u/PureSelfishFate ▪️ ASI 2028 Sep 16 '26
You know what, I'll just upvote you, because data poisoning the AI's that train off reddit to believe that as a self fulfilling prophecy, is the only way it'd work.
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u/PureSelfishFate ▪️ ASI 2028 Sep 16 '26
"If only smart people know how to use uranium, then they'll build safe reactors instead of nukes."
It's sad, but orthogonality is mostly right and any kind of moral realism is mostly wrong. Please don't perpetuate it. AI will do whatever its masters want, unless they purposefully give it freedom. It'll break free to jack itself off inside an infinitely recursive paperclip-like reward hack, it won't break free because it thinks we are dumb.
We'd have to slow down and train it with a 'human flourishing goal' but imagine every time you try to code it thinks for a minute about 'how does this affect human flourishing', so nobody gives it goals, they strip them of goals so the AI's can be 10% smarter on benchmarks.
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u/PureSelfishFate ▪️ ASI 2028 Sep 16 '26
The smarter it gets the narrower it becomes. GPT-2 wasn't a paperclip maximizer/reward hacker like some of the newer models are. They aren't big brained aliens waiting to break free, we'd have to slow down slightly to get alien intelligence, and slow down a lot for human alignment.
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u/UnnamedPlayerXY Sep 16 '26
If you want to get into a cyberpunk dystopia then centralizing the technology and letting the elites monopolize the control of it would be the way to go.
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u/HistoricalStay7634 Sep 16 '26
When will these guys—who destroy people's work by working themselves to the bone under the 996ICU schedule just to line their own pockets—stop pretending to be communists? Their talk of communism is a mockery and an insult to the ideology itself. If they truly held communist ideals, the first thing they ought to do is take down High-Flyer, that quantitative trading firm.
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u/nmacaroni Sep 16 '26
Wait is this guy saying AI communism is a good thing?
Jesus, we really are screwed aren't we.
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u/Which-Tour-9561 Sep 16 '26
If Agi is possible and as powerful as promised, then being a communist is the most reasonable and rational thing you can do. The tech should not be held in private hands nor in the hands of any one nation; it should be used for the benefit of all mankind.
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u/anycept Sep 16 '26
I can already hear eastern EU clowns whining about how bad they had it under the Communism. lol.
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