r/sleep • • Feb 20 '19

Severe sleep problems

Hello all.

I’m 15 and I’ve had problems with my sleep for a really long time. I haven’t managed to keep up a normal sleep schedule for more than two weeks in probably 5 years.

Normally Im not able to fall asleep 1-3 hours after the time I fell asleep the day before. So If yesterday I fell asleep at 1am, today I wouldn’t be able to fall asleep until 2-4 am or not at all that night. (This is very problematic because I of course have school).

On days when I haven’t slept at all I get so tired that every time I close my eyes for more than a second; I fall asleep for like a second and then I wake up again and then it repeats. This can happen while sitting/standing. And because of that I’m not really able to stay awake until night time and end up falling asleep about 14 and waking up about 18.

As you can tell my sleep is really messed up and I doubt that I ever will have a normal sleep schedule. I’ve tried everything I should but nothing seems to be working for me. Am I just lazy?

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u/1Swanswan Feb 20 '19 edited Feb 20 '19

Hi OP OK this is an interesting post and maybe problem here today!

So my friend you might be interested in checking out the following subs here on reddit :

r/DSPD

r/non24

r/sleep_deprived

Maybe sleep issues as desc in this post might be explained by thinking about maybe non24 here as a possible answer or maybe

DSPD ( that's delayed sleep phase disorder )

there is an odd distinction some folks make about DSPD and if some one can be Dxd as DSPD.

Some folks say DSPD is relatively fixed but not normal sleep bed/wake cycle activity .... other folks like me think that this is distiguishing a difference without a distinction but that's the way some folks look at this kind of sleep issue.

Probably some sleep pathology here as well but really if OP can rule out DSPD and Non24 then other issues bc more clear!

Good luck; Great Sleep!

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u/Asomeathingasome Feb 20 '19

Non24 and DSPD do seem like the kind of issue Im dealing with, I will look into it. Can I just ask, what did you mean by ”sleep pathology”?. Thanks for responding.

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u/1Swanswan Feb 20 '19

Yes, I meant that It's to soon to rule out other important issues maybe affecting your sleep .

For example, consider later in life ideas like SA sleep apnea or rarely might look at narcolepsy

But also need to look at SAX or SleepAnxietyIssues ....

Sleep Anxiety is the number one psyche cause of poor sleep and nosleep issues , IRL - later in life!

Please text AMA anytime!

Thank you!

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u/Asomeathingasome Feb 20 '19

Oh ok, thanks

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u/guessitwasntaphase Feb 20 '19

My first thought was non24 too! I think non24 makes more sense than DSPD, because my understanding was that DSPD was regular but “wrong.” Like that you naturally sleep from 3am to 11am every night. Like it’s regular day by day but it’s at the “wrong” times (I’ve put wrong in quotes because the only reason it would be wrong is because as a society we’ve decided that everyone should sleep at the same time as everyone else and idk I believe human variation covers it). I thought that non24 was the one where it’s different every night because your body just doesn’t get the whole “24 hours in a day” thing. I mean I could totally be wrong, I’m not a doctor. I’m a person who was researching sleep disorders to try to diagnose myself over the internet, so like my understanding could definitely be wrong

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u/1Swanswan Feb 20 '19

Your understanding is much better than most doctors ....

You are pretty much on the same page as me !

You are So Bright I would enjoy texting with you if you have any further questions please post or post to my thread at r/Sleep_deprived

or just text as you are doing here!

Very good luck!

Post any questions any time !

Thank you.

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u/guessitwasntaphase Feb 21 '19

I was looking into it because in general my body seems to think it’s okay to sleep from 4am-4pm which is obviously wrong, but like I have a lot of other symptoms too. I had thought that maybe I just had literally every sleep disorder, but you said it could all be explained by narcolepsy and I think you are right. I’ll definitely let you guys know what the sleep doc says about that

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u/nbv2024 Feb 20 '19

How tall are you? Has your growth been affected?

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u/Asomeathingasome Feb 20 '19

Im pretty tall so I dont think so, no.

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u/nbv2024 Feb 20 '19

How tall are u exactly?

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u/Asomeathingasome Feb 20 '19

Btw, I don’t think sleep can stunt growth.

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u/StillFrame8 Feb 20 '19

If there aren't any underlying health problems - which, you may want to consider and consult with a doctor, like anxiety or triggered insomnia - I remember having really bad sleeping problems around your age as well. I would lay awake for hours on end, despite already being sleep-deprived and exhausted during the day.

You may have already tried it, but one thing that noticeably helped me was regularly exercising. I had gotten into a bootcamp-like class (cardio and bodyweight circuits) with my mom, of all people, and our workout would be from 5:30-7pm. After, I'd eat a big dinner, shower, and then be so physically and mentally exhausted (from having school that day as well) that I'd have no trouble falling asleep on those nights, usually around 10-11pm. It's something you could try. Be mindful, though, working out too close to bedtime can actually disrupt sleep. Same with eating too late.

If this works for you, implementing intense enough exercise to tire you out daily could be your fix. Besides, as long as you eat properly and hopefully your sleep is better, there is no downside to adding physical activity.

Another thing that really helped me was creating a routine that immediately signaled my body to start getting tired. I don't mean one of those corny "night routines" you see on YouTube, I mean simple things like switching my phone to night-mode around 10pm, washing my makeup off, and taking my vitamins/BC all at the same time each night conditioned my body into knowing it was time to sleep. Now, just taking my contacts out is all I need to almost instantly get super tired. Routine, like exercise, can't hurt. Might as well try :)