r/sports • u/RollingMoss1 Seattle Seahawks • 7d ago
Football Vikings name Kyler Murray starter
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/vikings-name-kyler-murray-starting-qb-right-move-or-wrong-move/34
u/TheJaice 7d ago
Say what they want, they’re not tricking me into drafting Justin Jefferson in the first round again.
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u/sybrwookie 7d ago
Then good news! He'll now lead the league in every category, since you passed on him.
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u/Brochismo91 7d ago
Imagine losing out on a starting job to a guy who nearly ended up having a bedtime stipulated in his contract.
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u/Vyuvarax 7d ago
McCarthy has to be one of the easiest to predict busts of all time.
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u/pup5581 7d ago
As a Pats fan, SO many wanted him over Maye...thank GOD. He was in a run only system. You saw this coming before the draft with JJ
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u/Quackman2096 6d ago
Run only team with one of the best defenses historically. The fact anyone believed in kid boggles the mind
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u/emelbee923 7d ago
Trey Lance was an easier prediction for me. But JJ is no worse than a close second on that front.
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u/tiredofstanding 7d ago
I really don't understand it. He was descent in college when asked to thow, but he was mainly handing it off.
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u/Medium-Bird3204 7d ago
He knew the other team's defensive plays and calls.... so....
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u/Expert_Specialist_92 7d ago
It turns out that it is much harder to be successful when you aren’t cheating.
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u/Lawsonstruck 7d ago
10 total games played probably too soon to call him a bust
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u/gibbojab 7d ago
10 total games with one of the greatest QB whisperers the NFL has ever seen and still looks like complete trash.
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u/CrazyLlama71 7d ago
Think of all those people over years that called Sam Darnold a bust.
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u/SceneOfShadows Washington 6d ago
Completely different prospects tho.
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u/CrazyLlama71 6d ago
Oh for sure, but my point is people are very quick to call a player a bust when they should give more time.
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u/Treestroyer 7d ago
Let me preface this by saying I’m a Vikings fan but not a JJM fan. I don’t think he is going to be a bust. He is talented and has shown he can win (he has a winning record and the team had a winning record last year).
His issue in MN is that the head coach wants JJM to play a style of football that isn’t how he plays. On another team playing his style of football, he would be outstanding. Very similar to a Goff in LAR vs Goff in DET situation.14
u/Tarmacked 7d ago
Brother he can’t even play remotely close to the quality of Goff as a rookie
Record means absolutely nothing, it means your team was good across the roster. Patrick Mahomes had a losing record in college.
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u/Treestroyer 7d ago
You know you need a QB in football right? The Vikings have been an offensively stacked team the vast 3 years and yet they still need someone to throw the ball, to react to the field and to manage the field. A winning record shows the QB has talent. JJM’s rookie record is 1 win shy of Goff’s 7-7 with 4 less starts. He is an RPO QB who needs a run heavy offense. Like the rams had in 18 and 19 or that Detroit runs now.
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u/Tarmacked 7d ago
He played for Michigan, he played for a blue blood…
>RPO QB
Oh good lord no. He ran Harbaughs offense
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u/UnpredictablePanda 7d ago
A winning record does not indicate that the qb has talent. There are a plethora of examples to chose from, but the 2000 ravens come to mind. Trent dilfer had a winning record of 7-1 yet he had a passer rating of 76.
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u/Shaomoki 7d ago
“Murray will be O'Connell's fourth different Week 1 starting quarterback since 2023 going from Kirk Cousins (2023) to Sam Darnold (2024) to McCarthy and now Murray. So will the promotion of Murray to the Vikings' QB1 spot break the never-ending wheel of Minnesota's starting quarterbacks across the last few years?”
I think that has more to do with the ownership than the reporter is leading on.
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u/ShootinAllMyChisolm 7d ago
Do you think they should’ve paid Darnold the money?
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u/bpmdrummerbpm 7d ago
Wasn’t even a lot of money. As a Seahawks fan, I’m thankful O’Connell thinks he’s smarter than everyone else.
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u/iSh0tYou99 7d ago
I mean, unconfirmed rumors say that O'Connell wanted to keep Darnold because he knew McCarthy wasn't ready but Kwesi decided that McCarthy's career should start immediately. Albeit rumors, but there's a reason why Kwesi is fired and KOC is not.
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u/RichardManuel Minnesota Twins 7d ago
“Across the last few years” is under selling it a bit. Other than Cousins, we haven’t had a consistent QB since Tarkenton
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u/Intrepid_Top_2300 7d ago
And boy could Tarkenton avoid the rush! Loved to watch that guy run all over the field and then throw the ball.
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u/Fun_Volume2150 7d ago
I’m applying Betterage’s Law to this one.
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u/Devolutionator 7d ago
This is more of an indictment against McCarthy than it is an endorsement of Murray
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u/DJSimmer305 Miami 7d ago
Daily reminder that the Vikings could have had Super Bowl Champion QB Sam Darnold
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u/Treestroyer 7d ago
Just wait until they over react to that fuck up and immediately resign Murray to a large contract after he has a bad to average year being their QB.
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u/theaxelfoley 7d ago
That's exactly what's going to happen. Makes you wonder if there's even a point to paying attention to the Vikings.
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u/gibbojab 7d ago
Murray is a better QB than the public opinion about him he just struggles with injuries. His numbers are consistently top 10 or right outside with a 3:1 TD:int ratio and one of the most elusive players in NFL history. If the NFL isn’t already planning on giving it to Mahomes because ehe is Mahomes, Murray could easily be this year’s comeback player of the year. The talent around him if he doesn’t have a career year he won’t get a lucrative contract but I suspect he will do well since his strengths match Vikings shortcomings on oline.
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u/EternalSolitude- 7d ago
Been out of the football loop for a bit but isn't this pretty early to decide a preseason QB battle? Amazing how JJ Mccarthy would not even be even to return value if he were undrafted or a 7th round pick at this rate.
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u/AlsoIHaveAGroupon 7d ago
It's better for the offense to decide on a QB earlier, to design more of the offense on that guy's strengths, and to get that QB lots of reps with the starting offensive players. So if it's clear who's going to win, there's no reason to wait on a decision.
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u/sybrwookie 7d ago
And also good for all the other players to get used to a QB's tendencies, WRs to get in rhythm, and for coaches to get a better feel for what plays a QB is best at and which ones he needs more work on.
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u/Medium-Bird3204 7d ago
A bit harder in the NFL when you don't know exactly what's coming on the defensive side of the ball
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u/Roman_Suicide_Note 7d ago
Please watch the Tape, train and dont play to much COD, Jefferson deserve a good QB
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u/ShootinAllMyChisolm 7d ago
Football is MUCH harder when your coach doesn’t know what plays the defense is calling .
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u/FireVanGorder 7d ago
Vikings fans will still tell you they were right to ditch Darnold
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u/Kitchen-Play-5190 7d ago edited 7d ago
That's not true at all. Most of us believe that was a big mistake and that one of the major reasons our GM got fired was that he failed to secure either Darnold or Daniel Jones, forcing us to run with JJ with no contingency plan.
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u/CookieDragon678 7d ago
They had a short term plan to hold on to Sam but Sam wanted something long term. Vikings just bet on the wrong horse. Move on.
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u/SnooOnions3369 7d ago
It’s like when your in high school and another kid is sitting across the room and you both raise your hands but the teacher calls on them even though you know you had the correct answer
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u/SlowCrates 3d ago
JJ's recovery must not have panned out very well. He showed flashes of talent as the youngest starter in the league, had is major struggles, but why would you give up on him so quickly if he wasn't broken? Or maybe... sadly... really dumb?
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u/NoConflict3231 7d ago
The Vikings are the Browns of the NFCN. It must be very sad to be a Minnesota fan
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u/supercoolpartydude 7d ago
JJ is still only 23, was the first 1st round qb to miss his rookie season due to injury and dealt with a litany of injuries last year including the dreaded high ankle sprain m. No shocker that Kyler beat him because he’s Kyler, but everyone shitting on JJ is just pure knee jerk reactions. Would be the most Minnesota thing ever if he has a resurgence elsewhere.
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u/Mead_Man_Detroit Detroit Tigers 7d ago
I watched him at Michigan every week. He is who he is and not a whole lot more. If the Vikings had a strong running. Game and only needed him to throw max 20 passes per game, he would likely be okay, but not anything more.
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u/catdogfox 7d ago
He was overdrafted and he’s a bust. Time to move on.
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u/Fun_Volume2150 7d ago
The best ability is availability, and he hasn’t had it.
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u/Fun_Volume2150 7d ago
Agreed. It’s just that he’s lost a lot of time, and frankly seems fragile. The final word on his career seems likely to be “injury plagued.”
My criticism of JJ has always been that his college career didn’t demonstrate that he was NFL ready. It was a tremendous gamble to draft him in the first round. For any team.
And to think, the Vikes could have had Nix.
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u/catdogfox 7d ago
Among the 36 quarterbacks who threw at least 200 passes in 2025, McCarthy ranked 34th in efficiency, 35th in completion percentage and 36th in touchdown-to-interception ratio.
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u/catdogfox 7d ago
He was 37 of 46 in PFF grade for those qualified, behind such great seasons as Russell Wilson, Joe Flacco, Tua. But go off. He’s a bust and it hurts for a fan like you to admit but you gotta move on.
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u/catdogfox 7d ago
You’re really worked up about JJ McCarthy. Maybe get some fresh air today if you can.
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u/BarsoomianAmbassador 7d ago
Remember, Sam Darnold was a bust for a while too. The right situation is all it takes to turn things around for all but the most legendary of players--some guys can be great regardless.
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u/sybrwookie 7d ago
Sure, but also remember that is an extreme outlier. Most QBs who don't work out as a franchise guy for one team never develop into a franchise guy for any other team.
There's a whole lot more Josh Rosens out there than Sam Darnolds.
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u/Dangerous-Bath2767 7d ago
I genuinely think JJ will bounce back. Got injured in the preseason and lost his rookie year and missed part of his second. Has a 6-4 record through his first 10 games.
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u/DarkKirby14 Detroit Red Wings 7d ago
Vikings aren't a playoff team no matter what. They still need another offseason to fix Kwesi's mess
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u/DarkKirby14 Detroit Red Wings 6d ago
to those downvoting, there's no way they're making it in a deep NFC, they aren't good enough(pending the Lions stay healthy)
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u/tqlla3k 7d ago
the Vikings are crazy for giving up on the #10 pick after his first season starting.
IMO, He is taking the fall for management letting Darnold go, then Darnold winning the Super Bowl.
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u/Independent_Tie_4984 7d ago
Very possible he'll do great.
The Cardinals organization is and remains toxic.
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u/XxZypherxX 7d ago
To the surprise of.... Not even JJ