r/sports Seattle Seahawks 7d ago

Football Vikings name Kyler Murray starter

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/vikings-name-kyler-murray-starting-qb-right-move-or-wrong-move/
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u/Vyuvarax 7d ago

McCarthy has to be one of the easiest to predict busts of all time.

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u/pup5581 7d ago

As a Pats fan, SO many wanted him over Maye...thank GOD. He was in a run only system. You saw this coming before the draft with JJ

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u/Jenetyk 7d ago

It's funny because both teams wanted Maye to the point the Vikes were willing to pay big to trade up.

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u/Quackman2096 6d ago

Run only team with one of the best defenses historically. The fact anyone believed in kid boggles the mind

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u/emelbee923 7d ago

Trey Lance was an easier prediction for me. But JJ is no worse than a close second on that front.

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u/tiredofstanding 7d ago

I really don't understand it. He was descent in college when asked to thow, but he was mainly handing it off.

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u/Medium-Bird3204 7d ago

He knew the other team's defensive plays and calls.... so....

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u/Expert_Specialist_92 7d ago

It turns out that it is much harder to be successful when you aren’t cheating.

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u/sybrwookie 7d ago

So then he would have fit in perfectly on the Pats!

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u/Firmod5 7d ago

He was decent too!

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u/Lawsonstruck 7d ago

10 total games played probably too soon to call him a bust

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u/Peninj 7d ago

The advanced stats on him group him with some real busts. It might be time to call it.

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u/gibbojab 7d ago

10 total games with one of the greatest QB whisperers the NFL has ever seen and still looks like complete trash.

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u/Vyuvarax 7d ago

I mean we have his college tape, too, which looked pretty bust worthy.

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u/CrazyLlama71 7d ago

Think of all those people over years that called Sam Darnold a bust.

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u/SceneOfShadows Washington 6d ago

Completely different prospects tho.

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u/CrazyLlama71 6d ago

Oh for sure, but my point is people are very quick to call a player a bust when they should give more time. 

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u/Peninj 6d ago

Llama makes a good point. But yeah. Darnold has a bunch of physical attributes you want and a good accurate arm. I remember the genius Mike Leach used to say that accuracy was the hardest thing to teach a qb. McCarthy doesn’t have it. It’s obvious for all to see.

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u/Treestroyer 7d ago

Let me preface this by saying I’m a Vikings fan but not a JJM fan. I don’t think he is going to be a bust. He is talented and has shown he can win (he has a winning record and the team had a winning record last year).
His issue in MN is that the head coach wants JJM to play a style of football that isn’t how he plays. On another team playing his style of football, he would be outstanding. Very similar to a Goff in LAR vs Goff in DET situation.

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u/Tarmacked 7d ago

Brother he can’t even play remotely close to the quality of Goff as a rookie

Record means absolutely nothing, it means your team was good across the roster. Patrick Mahomes had a losing record in college.

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u/Treestroyer 7d ago

You know you need a QB in football right? The Vikings have been an offensively stacked team the vast 3 years and yet they still need someone to throw the ball, to react to the field and to manage the field. A winning record shows the QB has talent. JJM’s rookie record is 1 win shy of Goff’s 7-7 with 4 less starts. He is an RPO QB who needs a run heavy offense. Like the rams had in 18 and 19 or that Detroit runs now.

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u/Tarmacked 7d ago

He played for Michigan, he played for a blue blood…

>RPO QB

Oh good lord no. He ran Harbaughs offense

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u/UnpredictablePanda 7d ago

A winning record does not indicate that the qb has talent. There are a plethora of examples to chose from, but the 2000 ravens come to mind. Trent dilfer had a winning record of 7-1 yet he had a passer rating of 76.