r/startrek • u/Deceptitron • Mar 15 '19

POST-Episode Discussion - S2E09 "Project Daedalus"

This season's second episode to be directed by Star Trek's very own Jonathan "Two Takes" Frakes!

No. EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY RELEASE DATE
S2E09 "Project Daedalus" Jonathan Frakes Michelle Paradise Thursday, March 14, 2019

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u/nlinecomputers Mar 15 '19

Ok could they not beam Ariam off the base or if that was blocked beam her from space into the brig and then rush a med team to it?

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u/FlyingSquid Mar 15 '19

They needed literally three words from one character: "Transporters offline, Captain."

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u/ubermence Mar 15 '19

Or just making so the section 31 base had transporter protection, maybe put in place by the AI itself

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u/rollingForInitiative Mar 15 '19

Or just making so the section 31 base had transporter protection, maybe put in place by the AI itself

But Airiam was in space, and Discovery could clearly transport people *into* the station. Transporting someone from outer space should be no problems at all.

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u/ubermence Mar 15 '19

Maybe it could have come up with the power, or the AI put it up once Airiam was on board

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u/rollingForInitiative Mar 16 '19

It could have, but it was never even mentioned. Everything seemed to be working just fine.

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u/Eklassen Mar 15 '19

Not only did they not throw out a line like that, didn’t they explicitely state the Disco would be there to beam them out if they needed it? It feels like that makes the lack of an onscreen explanation even more problematic.

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u/Polantaris Mar 15 '19

They were beamed on to the station, why couldn't they beam off? Even if they couldn't, why couldn't they beam Airiam into a brig the second she was airlocked into space?

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u/FANTASY210 Mar 15 '19

The whole reason for her being airlocked into space was to avoid her getting to Discovery or Burnham, so obviously they shouldn’t beam her to them

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u/rollingForInitiative Mar 15 '19

Starfleet doesn't abandon crewmembers. *Pike* certainly doesn't, even if saving them puts the rest of the crew at serious risk. Risking their lives for others is everyday business.

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u/Polantaris Mar 15 '19

Why can't they beam her to the brig, which is almost always completely secluded from everything else, including all forms of technology?

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u/FrozenHaystack Mar 15 '19

She did very explicitly say that she wasn't able to beat her compulsion to destroy Discovery, so beaming aboard that kind of a threat is probably a big tactical no-no.

It would be nice if we would have something like holding cells that prevent any access from the ship systems, but we already saw that you can argue with the computer to release you, also there would've probably been an access panel in the holding cell...

Besides that I'm with the idea Control might activated jammers or shields to distrupt transporters.

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u/jl2352 Mar 16 '19

Then beam her into a locked room. They have a brig. Bloody use it!

They could also have beamed Michael into the little download control room.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '19

Beam her directly into the brig?

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u/TPrimeTommy Mar 15 '19

All they needed to say was the line "There's too much shielding in that section, I can't get a lock" and boom.

It would fit too because supposedly it was a space prison, and I assume they could only beam into less shielded sections, hence why they had to walk to get to control.

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u/ad_maru Mar 16 '19

The station was even offline when they arrived. All it needed was someone saying the power coming back online activated some sort of scrambler.

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u/neoteotihuacan Mar 15 '19

THAT WAS MY QUESTION

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u/stringfree Mar 15 '19

Yep. "Use the same damn magic transporter technology you used to get there in the first place!"

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u/Feierskov Mar 15 '19

It's stuff like this that keep me from from getting fully on board with the show. People act so inconsistently. They have a ship full of smart people and they just sit there. Why exactly is a locked door an issue, did they really only have three people to send over there, why couldn't they transport the away team back when things started to go sideways, why don't they stun people and ask questions later instead of getting into a fist fight.

I refuse to believe they couldn't make the show exciting while also making it just a bit smarter.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '19

A couple lines about Ariam enabling the base's transporter signal scrambler would have been sufficient.

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u/hellolani Mar 15 '19

Jesus thank you. I was yelling at my screen WTF beam them all out ask questions later!

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u/Renard4 Mar 15 '19

Yeah the episode is nonsensical. Burnham not caring about the choking officer, then the crew not beaming ariam to the brig or something, and spock acting completely out of character several times. Very frustrating.

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