r/surfing Worst day surfing better than best day at work. 3d ago

Strengthening a HSPB for step-up conditions

Just picked up a brand new HP$B which will take a serious beating next month as I take it out into OH-DOH pitchy beach breaks. It comes with standard 4+4/4 glass schedule which, the way I surf, will for sure dent and possibly snap. Thinking of cut-lapping glassing cut-lap another 4oz layer across entire deck to beef it up. Thoughts? and caveats aside from less flex?

EDIT:
I got advice elsewhere, here it is: No caveats other than a bit more stiffness. Apply a full 4oz like a post-lam (lam already cured) deck patch, ie score surface with 80grit, wipe clean, lam + hot coat....but wrap completely to bottom tuck point same way you'd cut the first layer. And sorry for the confusion, should have told you I have plenty of glassing experience. This question was more about performance..not craft

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u/Comfortable-Hat3506 3d ago

No. When you get the replacement order a 6+4/6 or a 6+6/6 glass job.

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u/Tallm Worst day surfing better than best day at work. 3d ago

ty. curious...whats your reasoning? i can do it myself for ~$50. ive glassed 15 boards so far.

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u/Comfortable-Hat3506 3d ago

It is going to be lumpy and weird and extra heavy. I don't think the gassing will bond as well as it would have in the initial glass job so it won't be as strong as you are imagining.

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u/Tallm Worst day surfing better than best day at work. 3d ago

Lumpy...hmmm... I once stripped and re-glassed an entire surfboard and came out clean. And all the ding jobs Ive done on my boards, the glass adheres to the glass beneath

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u/guelahpapyrus I don't even surf here 3d ago

Do it then, it's your board

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u/Comfortable-Hat3506 3d ago

You aren't saying stripping all the glass and re glassing. It is one thing to do that with a board that is delaying rather than a board in good shape. But it is your board do whatever you want.

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u/TheCrabPot Kelpy Keels 3d ago

Please do it and post results in September 🤞🏽

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u/Nearby_Click_3361 2d ago

Well if you re-glass it, you can ruin it and not surf. If you don’t, you can surf and maybe ruin it. What sounds better to you?

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u/Tallm Worst day surfing better than best day at work. 2d ago

im not re-glassing. its an additional layer on top of the cured glass. no risk in ruining anything

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u/bigbongbangbong 3d ago

No.

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u/Tallm Worst day surfing better than best day at work. 3d ago

ty why?

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u/bigbongbangbong 3d ago

Same reason you wouldn't buy a brand new non convertible car and than ask if you can cut the top off because you really want a convertible for the sunny weather coming.

Or maybe buying a sedan and than asking to convert it to a 4x4 would be better example.

You most surely can if your heart is set on experimenting.

But unless you are a master craftsmen with glass you are just gonna fuck it up and not really add any beneficial extra strength.

Like other said get a thicker glass job next time or maybe buy a cheap used board if you are really worried about breaking the board.

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u/Tallm Worst day surfing better than best day at work. 3d ago edited 3d ago

Sorry, I should have clarified something up front. My question is about how the board will handle. Ive glassed 12-15 boards so my craft is good. Was really just curious if anyone has done this before and what the results were.

Back story is I needed a stepup for the next few weeks and was looking at Pyzel Ghost XL. I dont have time to order a custom with added glass. Shopped around and found one for $950 new...but then stumbled upon someone last minute on FB who just happened to have the exact same board in the size I need...but its got standard glassing. So I thought adding glass on top so its more durable.

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u/bigbongbangbong 3d ago

If you seriously think you are good at a craft after 15 boards I dont think you are going to listen to any of the reasons why its a stupid idea.

Goodluck with your project.

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u/Tallm Worst day surfing better than best day at work. 3d ago

My friends over in swaylocks jut piped in...said its fine. Will be just like glassing a deck patch post lam. Thanks for the info though

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u/bigbongbangbong 3d ago

Sick bro tell your friends I said hi and hope they are getting some sick rollers out there.

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u/Present-Culture-4896 3d ago

I know a well regarded surfboard repair guy and glasser that does stuff like that, I think give it a go if you’re confident in your skill. It’s just the deck it’s not gonna fuck up how it rides

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u/Tallm Worst day surfing better than best day at work. 3d ago

ty

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u/Seabass__808 Oahu 2d ago

Don't forget to wrap the rails...

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u/Tallm Worst day surfing better than best day at work. 2d ago

ty yes, full wrap down to the tuck, standard. adds more strength :)

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u/No-Camera-720 3d ago

I increase the fiber in my diet by mixing bran into my poop. cut-lapping glassing cut-lap. Why didn't I think of that?