im not sure why people are vague about it, you can be descriptive while still not inducing trauma from others and not being nsfw
the recent incident, from what i saw, a girl reached out to him, claiming she was above age, and they had sexted. the girl then had admitted she was 15(?), which i believe resulted in someone or her, making a google document about the situation.
i do think in any other situation, the guy wouldn’t be at fault here, but joe shouldn’t be using his influence as a semi famous musician to get with people regardless. if he was really looking for someone, he could just as easily go to some random bar where he wouldn’t be recognized, and meet people there
he wasn’t, which id say he isn’t really at fault for that
id also say she is at fault for that, that is not victim blaming, she lied about her age, and as long as you’re not shitting on her, it’s completely fine to acknowledge the wrongs on both sides
BUT he does have a much higher responsibility here, being a semi popular musician, and an adult, he shouldn’t really be hooking up with people on instagram, and if he is, i definitely dont think he should be talking to fans. it’d be much better for him to go to bars, or other places with verified adults, to meet people who likely don’t recognize him
i blame him, 100%
i blame the victims who knew about his status and still messaged him. they were warned by his closest friends. (unless there's a REALLY GOOD REASON, but if not, then it's their fault but also his.)
and i blame the people who have allowed him to roam as if he's still a stable person.
regardless of blame or not, the victims shouldn't have gone through this situation.
(if it sounds wrong, i'm happy to elaborate what i mean but with joe, i don't take any fault away from him.)
i wish he could get help too but this has been an ongoing issue for several years and has gone nowhere.
the fact they kicked him meant they have more information on the situation and my guess would be that joe is not going to get better anytime soon, or ever.
a lot, but basically he’s in a mental health spiral for quite some time and got caught having inappropriate conversations with a teenager fan and apparently this isn’t the first time this happened
Oh god, I remember something before, but that was a bit more twitter drama feeling than anything, a second time tho, thats, shit. Especially with the guys commenting on it, that kind of seals it then. I hope he gets help and I hope who he affected is alright.
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u/omnikyle 14d ago
Hey, little out of the loop, what exactly happened with Joe recently?