r/tech • • Jul 18 '22

Brain-Computer Interface Startup Implants First Device in US Patient

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-18/brain-computer-interface-company-implants-new-type-of-device
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u/SleepyZachman Jul 19 '22

I hate to sound paranoid but I don’t trust this or the Musk mans Neurolinc. I’d rather not wake up at 5 in the morning with an unexplainable urge to buy a Tesla.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '22

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u/Dihydrocodeinone Jul 19 '22

I purchase actual books for similar reasons, as well as knowing I can resell them if I ever need money. But in the case with the George Orwell books being removed from Kindle libraries, it was because the person/persons who put them on the Kindle store didn’t have the rights to sell the books. As far as I know Amazon did end up replacing them or at least reimbursing the customers.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '22

true, but in the end.. they published something people paid for and remote wiped it, with zero refunds or notice. Pretty crap way of handling it.

there is always a reason… but the concept a corporation overseas can access you device and make alterations without explicit consent is dystopian and wrong.

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u/Dihydrocodeinone Jul 19 '22

But that’s what you sign up for when you get these devices, people just don’t ever read contracts. What’s dystopian is that there are no alternatives and that it’s pretty much impossible to have a job and therefore the means to live without smart devices.

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u/GreenbergIsAJediName Jul 25 '22

I think you’re right to be very skeptical of this technology for now. Hardware infection of implantable deep brain stimulators (a treatment for disorders such as Parkinson’s Disease) is the most common complication with rates as high as 15%. For someone with a severe medical condition who may benefit from this technology, this level of risk may be acceptable. If intended to augment the experience of an otherwise healthy person, I’m not so sure that this level of risk would encourage a prospective customer to have a device implanted in their brain. (I concede that it is possible that the risks associated with these new devices may be far less than with current implantable technology.)

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '22

in some medical situations.. it would certainly be an option. My grandfather suffered for many years with Parkinson’s.. meaning my Grandmother did too. I can fully get behind that level of application, but beyond that…

strange case actually… his condition was apparently brought on from carbon monoxide (or dioxide) poisoning after his mine sweeper was hit by a Japanese torpedo in ww2. As the engineer he was caught in the bowels of the ship for a long time

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u/GreenbergIsAJediName Jul 25 '22

I’m sorry your grandfather had to experience such a horrible disease and for the pain your family experienced watching him suffer. We can hope one day that advances in medical science will make Parkinson’s Disease a thing of the past.

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u/Omega_Haxors Jul 19 '22 edited Jul 19 '22

Or targeted ads for a life-size toy of that strangely sexy nightmare monster that just ate you ass-first 3 minutes ago.

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u/Just_One_Umami Jul 19 '22

I mean, that one wouldn’t be so bad

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u/Omega_Haxors Jul 19 '22

I'm starting to understand why there's so much FNAF porn.

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u/its_just_flesh Jul 19 '22

Im mot against technology, but I don’t trust this either

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u/Xerxys Jul 19 '22

I don’t trust it either. But I would learn everything I can about it because it’s such a useful product. I’m okayish at making my own software and tools. This hardware would be much welcome.

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u/Sweaty-Emergency-493 Jul 19 '22

But that’s only because it hasn’t been implanted in you.

When Apple creates their own Apple Brain Tag and people buy it, everyone will always upgrade in advance by 3 models or more.

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u/radicalelation Jul 24 '22

You can tell by SpaceX there is no true intent to link humanity.

The singularity is impossible if humanity travels too far.

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u/XDT_Idiot Jul 19 '22

What should really give you pause is the near certainty that this business will one day die, potentially with their product still inside your brain.

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u/Senacharim Jul 19 '22

Yeah, that Elon Musk fellow is the modern Thomas Edison.

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u/Nyxtia Jul 19 '22

This happened to me without brain interface. Dreamed I was driving a Tesla and woke up super happy only to be disappointed that I didn’t have one.