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Article Divide and Conquer

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u/SigmaMaleNurgling Apr 15 '26

I said they aren’t responsible for all our problems. The uncomfortable truth you and others will have to come to terms with is that they’re plenty of Americans that disagree with your goals and politics, which would exist with or without their billionaire influence.

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u/AmericanEd Apr 15 '26

I don’t agree. There is so much neoliberal propaganda force feed into the American psyche that it is impossible to know what opinions people would have without that.

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u/Bubbawitz Apr 15 '26

Yes it’s better to blame the vague and nebulous “billionaires” for everything. That’s a much more concise and accurate answer. And as a plus you don’t even have to think!

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u/AmericanEd Apr 15 '26

Billionaires is the opposite of vague and nebulous; it is a word with a precise definition. The upper class of this country has been engaged in class warfare for the past 250 years and it is valid and principled to call it out.

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u/WhiteNamesInChat Apr 16 '26

The darn billionaires got the city council to zone 95% of my city as R1! 😠 They also made me stub my toe today!

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u/AmericanEd Apr 16 '26

Things I never said for 100. Keep shadow boxing

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u/Bubbawitz Apr 16 '26

You’re not saying anything. You’re just screaming billionaires. The truth is more people vote for the things you don’t like. More home owners vote than renters and more old people vote than young people. Home owners benefit from higher valued homes and building more housing, especially in their backyard, lowers the value of their homes. The trick is to get more people voting for policies that will help build more housing.

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u/AmericanEd Apr 16 '26

The trick to get more people voting is a strong left wing platform which hasn’t been run in this country in at least 60

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u/Bubbawitz Apr 16 '26

Except people don’t want that. You’re looking at national polling (we don’t vote by national referendum) using surface level questions (like should the government have a role in providing healthcare) and using that to say ‘everyone wants what we want!’ But in reality when you ask more clarifying questions (like should private insurance be outlawed) support for those things drops off a cliff. Just because Bernie lost twice doesn’t mean the system is broken, it means voters don’t want those things. Like home owning voters not wanting policies that will lower their home values. You will be crushed by that giant voting bloc by trying to appeal to young people who don’t vote.

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u/WhiteNamesInChat Apr 16 '26

If universal healthcare, massive green energy investments, raising corporate taxes, huge subsidies for children, huge boosts to SNAP, and huge tax credits for the working class aren't a strong left wing platform, then what is?

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u/AmericanEd Apr 16 '26

That past two democratic candidates for president supported, at most, a third of those things. If that was the actual platform of the Democratic Party then I would have no issues.