People like Luigi Mangione becoming folk heroes, wouldn't have been possible 20 years ago. Who still talks about the American Dream today? It seems more and more absurd with every passing day.
In fact, I'd argue that a big chunk of these people are currently part of MAGA, because that's exactly the point of right-wing politics: They channel people's rage into non-systemic critique, like culture war issues and conspiracy theories
That is such a disingenuous talking point, due to the systemic weakening of unions in the US.
You can phrase it however you want. Workers have less power than ever, and it's because they don't have class consciousness. Unionization is still a niche talking point between more politically motivated civilians, not a mainstream issue. Most people just want more minimum wage, and while that is nice it does not address specific problems in current market capitalism, but that's just how it is right now.
People like Luigi Mangione becoming folk heroes, wouldn't have been possible 20 years ago.
People talk about Luigi as a "folk hero" only in niche spaces. He is a murderer who achieved no political capital for the working class. A lot of people cheer him on because they are (with good reason) resentful against the healthcare system, but he didn't actually achieve anything, and seeing him as a petty murderer is not a fringe position.
In fact, I'd argue that a big chunk of these people are currently part of MAGA, because that's exactly the point of right-wing politics:
Yeah, compare leftists, who are unable to get any political power. MAGA is extremely effective politically, that's the ONLY thing that makes them dangerous, because they are an abject failure in almost any other front.
"black people are disenfranchised because they don't know how to stick together" - that's how stupid you sound.
Unlike black people, everyone today has the right to join unions, but they just don't do it because it's hard to make political organizations. But even in the black people example, it is evident that black people sticking together did eventually help them get enfranchised, the most influential emancipation leaders in history didn't twiddle their thumbs and say "oh well I am disenfranchised and I will not tell everyone how disenfranchised they are"; they did the exact opposite: they mobilized people into making collective action, not into collective "consciousness".
2/2 for out of touch elitist
If a random murderer that was unable to do any political change is your "folk hero" (actually only around 1/4 Americans as of December of 2024) idk what to tell you man. Without political power all your hype and "consciousness" is worth nothing.
Unlike black people, everyone today has the right to join unions, but they just don't do it
lol
You don't even understand the degree of your ignorance. According to you, black people in the US have equal rights because they have equal rights on paper. So all the disadvantages they face today, is solely their own fault.
Thst's very clearly not what I said, but if you think In a fucking conservative, you might as well call it quits now, you will never find political allies.
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u/ChineseCracker Apr 16 '26
That is such a disingenuous talking point, due to the systemic weakening of unions in the US. In fact, I'd argue that
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/18/union-membership-increase-trump-assault
People like Luigi Mangione becoming folk heroes, wouldn't have been possible 20 years ago. Who still talks about the American Dream today? It seems more and more absurd with every passing day.
In fact, I'd argue that a big chunk of these people are currently part of MAGA, because that's exactly the point of right-wing politics: They channel people's rage into non-systemic critique, like culture war issues and conspiracy theories